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  #451  
Old April 8th 05, 09:01 AM
Meghan Noecker
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On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:56:52 -0400, "Mary"
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Aren't they amazing that way? Last night Cheeks was in a deep
sleep at dinner time so I fed Buddha and waited on Cheeky's.
Then she woke up and no matter how quietly I did it, when the
saucer hit the counter Buddha was there looking at me. I am
NOT supposed to give one of them something without giving
the other something! It's against the rules!



Exactly. The cats can eat their kibble in front of the dog because it
is always there, and they do spill a little on the floor.

But I cannot actively feed them in front of somebody and not share.
That would be teasing. So, I cannot feed Maynard if Jenny is there.
And she just knows it. If I look around for her, she immediately jumps
up and leaves. But I know she hasn't gone far. And now she finds
places in my room where I can't see her unless I get up and look. It's
really hard to look now without being obvious. I feel bad that she
knows I am planning to hand out food, but not to her.

But her life is more important, so I have to keep her weight down. It
has been a couple years since she started that cough again. But when
she did, I immediately reduce her dinner. And before that, I had to
call my mom on the carpet for giving her extra kibble. She didn't tell
me she was giving her kibble as a treat every night when she went to
bed. That would be in addition to me giving her a treat when *I* go to
bed (the can the cats get). So, I insisted she switch to beans. Jenny
actually gets a larger treat, so she's happy, and my mom feels good
giving her something to eat. My mom is overweight, has been all her
life, and she can't stand to let an animal go hungry, as they might be
suffering. It was very frustrating getting her to go along with the
diet plan. But Jenny is very satisfied with the beans, so it has
worked really well with her.






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  #452  
Old April 8th 05, 09:09 AM
Meghan Noecker
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On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:12:58 GMT, "Mathew Kagis"
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Meghan: You and Diane are a great example of what I mean.... Diane was
very aware of the alerts & was affected by them. You, only vaguely so. Yet,
you were instantly curious about the 'threat' that affected Diane. You
mentioned two specific 'threats' that you have been aware of. The constant
'threats' have caused concern & talk where Diane works.....


I was interested, because I haven't heard of anything. The news
usually mentions stuff like that, and we barely hear anything. So, I
don't understand where you get this idea that we are constantly under
siege. I'm not seeing that at all.

I just don't know what it is you are talking about. You seem to be
under the impression that we are afraid and have changed the way we
live our lives. And I don't see that. I see how the economy has
changed since Boeing lost a lot of sales when the airlines went down.
But that is not about fear. I don't know anybody here who has changed
their daily behavior because of 911.

It just sounds to me like the wrong impression has been given to
people in other countries. That we are now paranoid or sitting around
in fear. Who has time for that?




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Old April 8th 05, 09:36 AM
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"Phil P." wrote in message
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Years ago, I've also had outdoor cats and I work with outdoor cats

to this
day - not counting ferals. So, save your rhetoric for someone who

doesn't
know any better, ok?


If someone misses the signs that their cat is not well or off
colour then perhaps one should look to the owner and not whether the
cat is indoor or has outside access. If one is not an experienced cat
owner or has not come across a certain health problem in a cat before
it is easy to miss early symptoms or to put it down to something else.
If someone has a pet cat that is not semi/feral and is kept outside
24/7 then they should perhaps think about find it a home where it has
inside access.
Alison








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Old April 8th 05, 10:50 AM
Alison
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"Christopher C. Stacy" wrote in message
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Well, that's what a friend of mine from a part of Texas

(where they are common road kill) told me. I am pretty
sure he was serious, but I never researched it further.



OMG ! Now you stop scraping up roadkill right this instance , ya
hear Mary ? Them dang armadillo stews ain't gonna do ya any good!
Alison


  #456  
Old April 8th 05, 12:19 PM
Phil P.
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"Steve G" wrote in message
ups.com...

Phil P. wrote:
(...)

Yes! Americans apparently take better care of their cats and don't

wait so
long to take their cats to the vet!


Now, was this just an attempt at a cheap shot,


Yep. I wasn't sure if you could afford an expensive shot. ;-)


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Old April 8th 05, 12:20 PM
Phil P.
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"Mathew Kagis" wrote in message

LOL!!!! Chainmail is overcompensation against dull, rusty weapons.


Not ain't that funny comming from a moron who makes the same mistake *every
day* after watching your cat die a horribly painfull death with a broken
back.



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Old April 8th 05, 12:28 PM
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"Alison" wrote in message
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"Phil P." wrote in message
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Years ago, I've also had outdoor cats and I work with outdoor cats

to this
day - not counting ferals. So, save your rhetoric for someone who

doesn't
know any better, ok?


If someone misses the signs that their cat is not well



You can't monitor an outdoor cat's health as well as you can monitor an
indoor cat's health because the cat may not display symptoms all the time.
That's it.



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Old April 8th 05, 12:52 PM
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"Phil P." wrote in message
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You can't monitor an outdoor cat's health as well as you can

monitor an
indoor cat's health because the cat may not display symptoms all the

time.
That's it..


As I've already said probably not and certainly not if they
outdoors all the time. Owners who keep their cats in all the time can
also miss signs like a cat having difficulties in pooing if the cat
tends to poo in the day time while they are at work.
Alison









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Old April 8th 05, 01:49 PM
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"Alison" wrote in message

Owners who keep their cats in all the time can
also miss signs like a cat having difficulties in pooing if the cat
tends to poo in the day time while they are at work.


They'd sure a **** know if the cat was constipated because the litter box
wouldn't have any **** in it - and if the cat had diarrhea, the evidence
would be in the litter box. The same principal applies to urine. At the
very least indoor owners would become aware of elimination disorders much
sooner than outdoor cat owners - and in the case of urinary tract
obstructions - sooner detection could make the difference between life and
acute renal failure and death.

You're sad devotion to an ancient and outdated tradition is blinding you
from reality.


 




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