OMG! One more reason to NOT declaw...

The two reasons I've heard that I could say justify it was the one where
the cat was scratching holes in itself and no amount of therapy, drugs
would stop it (declawing just let it keep scratching itself and not
harming itself in the process), and a declaw for one claw on a cat that
had 7 toes and the 7th was stuck between toes with a claw sticking out
that would stick the other two toes.

Alice

Absolutely. Here's a pic of Yoda's toes. Note the little white tufts between
his paws and extra toes. The one on the left doesn't have a claw (it had to be
removed, because it grew inward). The one on the right still has a claw which
we have to keep trimmed. (needs it now). I wish all these idiots who claim
declaws don't suffer pain could have seen that cat when he got home. He licked
it constantly and was so traumatized I felt bad for him and could not *imagine*
a cat coming home after having *all* his claws removed.
http://members.aol.com/sriddles/toes.jpg
http://members.aol.com/sriddles/toes2.jpg

Sherry

From: (-L.)

Furthermore, why is it that hundreds of thousands of children are
raised with animals - all over the world - yet some people are
convinced that Muffy will "harm little Junior". Geez! Are people
really *that* stupid?

Unfortunately I think they are. I remember when I was about 4 years old, our
family cat scratched me. Instead of mutilating the family pet, my mother asked
me what I'd done to the cat to make her scratch me, and then she reminded me
how to respect and treat the cat so she didn't scratch me again.

Lauren
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Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: (-L.)

Furthermore, why is it that hundreds of thousands of children are
raised with animals - all over the world - yet some people are
convinced that Muffy will "harm little Junior". Geez! Are people
really *that* stupid?

Unfortunately I think they are. I remember when I was about 4 years old, our
family cat scratched me. Instead of mutilating the family pet, my mother asked
me what I'd done to the cat to make her scratch me, and then she reminded me
how to respect and treat the cat so she didn't scratch me again.

Lauren
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Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

"*~*SooZy*~*" wrote in message ...
"-L." wrote in message
m...
Katra wrote in message
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Ok, so does anyone else have a VALID reason for declawing?
We have several cats and only one is declawed, and we got her from the
shelter that way. She does not appear to have any problems.

Normally, I DON'T believe in declawing as it is not necessary. I just
trim kittie claws on a regular basis with toenail clippers, or use
"pretty paws" claw caps. I don't have any furniture in the house that
can be ruined by clawing, and I provide the cats with sissal scratching
posts that they love.

However, my sister has a cat that is all too ready with his claws
sometimes if something annoys him. It is a personality trait.

The other day, he scratched the baby yet again for no good reason, and
the claw marks were right across his eye! That was too damned close. It
was just skin that was damaged and there was no damage to his eye. The
baby is 14 months old.

See here the reason for our (very difficult) decision:

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bleys/Dyson1yScrtch.jpg

I paid for them to get him declawed. We felt, at this point, that it was
a choice between declawing him or getting rid of him. :-(

Anyone else?


I just clicked on the link. What is saddest about this is that both
the scratch and the declawing were 100% preventable. I hope someone
learns from your mistakes.

-L.

yes I agree, the cat wouldn't just walk over and think 'oh I will scratch
you'....... the child has probably grabbed a handful of fur, or tried to lay
on the cat, babies are too heavy handed with cats. Keep young children away
from them while you are not there to supervise

It's entirely possible that this cat is insecure, and the child simply
just got too close - but in that case, the parents should *never* have
let the child close enough to the cat *to be scratched*. They knew
this is a reactive kitty - why would they subject their kid to the cat
and vice verse, in the first place??? It just mkes me sick. My
prediction is that this cat is going to develop other behavioral
problems, and end up rehomed, euthanized or dumped at a shelter.

-L.

"*~*SooZy*~*" wrote in message ...
"-L." wrote in message
m...
Katra wrote in message
...
Ok, so does anyone else have a VALID reason for declawing?
We have several cats and only one is declawed, and we got her from the
shelter that way. She does not appear to have any problems.

Normally, I DON'T believe in declawing as it is not necessary. I just
trim kittie claws on a regular basis with toenail clippers, or use
"pretty paws" claw caps. I don't have any furniture in the house that
can be ruined by clawing, and I provide the cats with sissal scratching
posts that they love.

However, my sister has a cat that is all too ready with his claws
sometimes if something annoys him. It is a personality trait.

The other day, he scratched the baby yet again for no good reason, and
the claw marks were right across his eye! That was too damned close. It
was just skin that was damaged and there was no damage to his eye. The
baby is 14 months old.

See here the reason for our (very difficult) decision:

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bleys/Dyson1yScrtch.jpg

I paid for them to get him declawed. We felt, at this point, that it was
a choice between declawing him or getting rid of him. :-(

Anyone else?


I just clicked on the link. What is saddest about this is that both
the scratch and the declawing were 100% preventable. I hope someone
learns from your mistakes.

-L.

yes I agree, the cat wouldn't just walk over and think 'oh I will scratch
you'....... the child has probably grabbed a handful of fur, or tried to lay
on the cat, babies are too heavy handed with cats. Keep young children away
from them while you are not there to supervise

It's entirely possible that this cat is insecure, and the child simply
just got too close - but in that case, the parents should *never* have
let the child close enough to the cat *to be scratched*. They knew
this is a reactive kitty - why would they subject their kid to the cat
and vice verse, in the first place??? It just mkes me sick. My
prediction is that this cat is going to develop other behavioral
problems, and end up rehomed, euthanized or dumped at a shelter.

-L.

"PawsForThought" wrote in message
...
From: (-L.)

Furthermore, why is it that hundreds of thousands of children are
raised with animals - all over the world - yet some people are
convinced that Muffy will "harm little Junior". Geez! Are people
really *that* stupid?

Unfortunately I think they are. I remember when I was about 4 years old,
our
family cat scratched me. Instead of mutilating the family pet, my mother
asked
me what I'd done to the cat to make her scratch me, and then she reminded
me
how to respect and treat the cat so she didn't scratch me again.

Lauren

yes Lauren I said that too, in one of my previous post, we used to hear that
too as kids, and its the first thing I ask if any of my animals ever
scratched my kids friends. Animals can't speak, so of course they have to
use nails or teeth if being harmed or feel threatened.


--
Luv'n'Stuff
*~*SooZy*~*
New Pictures added every few days
http://community.webshots.com/user/ragdollcatsuk

"PawsForThought" wrote in message
...
From: (-L.)

Furthermore, why is it that hundreds of thousands of children are
raised with animals - all over the world - yet some people are
convinced that Muffy will "harm little Junior". Geez! Are people
really *that* stupid?

Unfortunately I think they are. I remember when I was about 4 years old,
our
family cat scratched me. Instead of mutilating the family pet, my mother
asked
me what I'd done to the cat to make her scratch me, and then she reminded
me
how to respect and treat the cat so she didn't scratch me again.

Lauren

yes Lauren I said that too, in one of my previous post, we used to hear that
too as kids, and its the first thing I ask if any of my animals ever
scratched my kids friends. Animals can't speak, so of course they have to
use nails or teeth if being harmed or feel threatened.


--
Luv'n'Stuff
*~*SooZy*~*
New Pictures added every few days
http://community.webshots.com/user/ragdollcatsuk

"-L." wrote in message
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It's entirely possible that this cat is insecure, and the child simply
just got too close - but in that case, the parents should *never* have
let the child close enough to the cat *to be scratched*. They knew
this is a reactive kitty - why would they subject their kid to the cat
and vice verse, in the first place??? It just mkes me sick. My
prediction is that this cat is going to develop other behavioral
problems, and end up rehomed, euthanized or dumped at a shelter.

-L.

yes and the fact the cat is well known to be *aggressive* I am surprised the
Mother left the child un attended with the cat in the first place! a lot of
animals are nervous around children because children are so un predictable.



--
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*~*SooZy*~*
New Pictures added every few days
http://community.webshots.com/user/ragdollcatsuk

"-L." wrote in message
snip

It's entirely possible that this cat is insecure, and the child simply
just got too close - but in that case, the parents should *never* have
let the child close enough to the cat *to be scratched*. They knew
this is a reactive kitty - why would they subject their kid to the cat
and vice verse, in the first place??? It just mkes me sick. My
prediction is that this cat is going to develop other behavioral
problems, and end up rehomed, euthanized or dumped at a shelter.

-L.

yes and the fact the cat is well known to be *aggressive* I am surprised the
Mother left the child un attended with the cat in the first place! a lot of
animals are nervous around children because children are so un predictable.



--
Luv'n'Stuff
*~*SooZy*~*
New Pictures added every few days
http://community.webshots.com/user/ragdollcatsuk

*~*SooZy*~* wrote:

"-L." wrote in message
snip

It's entirely possible that this cat is insecure, and the child simply
just got too close - but in that case, the parents should *never* have
let the child close enough to the cat *to be scratched*. They knew
this is a reactive kitty - why would they subject their kid to the cat
and vice verse, in the first place??? It just mkes me sick. My
prediction is that this cat is going to develop other behavioral
problems, and end up rehomed, euthanized or dumped at a shelter.

-L.

yes and the fact the cat is well known to be *aggressive* I am surprised the
Mother left the child un attended with the cat in the first place! a lot of
animals are nervous around children because children are so un predictable.

--
Luv'n'Stuff
*~*SooZy*~*


Declawing that cat fixed the problem.
It is now a non-issue.

Get it thru your heads that sometimes declawing is BENEFICIAL to the
cat, and the people. Sure there was some surgical pain to Booger, no
more so than the multiple scratches he has inflicted on humans over the
past 2 years. They healed, so will he. He'll get over it and he is an
INDOOR cat so there is no reason for him to keep his claws.

My sister is an excellent mom and is also a stay home mom.
That scratch to Dyson's face was an accident, not caused by negligence
on her part. It is not possible to keep a cat and a child apart 24/7 in
a small apartment, and if you have a bitchy cat, it needs it's claws
removed. Period.

Better than having it put to sleep.

This won't happen again.

K.

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