Just read about what is really in cat food

"Ann Martin" wrote in message
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I'm speaking about a breed of dog that I know and have raised for many
years, the Newfoundland. Newfs, forty years ago, had a lifespan
between 16-20 years. There lifespan now is an average of 8 years. My
last one was 14 when he died and this was considered "very old" for a
Newf.

Could this largely have to do w/ inbreeding & (too) strict breed standards,
perhaps? (Not just w/Newfoundlands - any particular dog breed that has a
relatively short life span.)

I've had cats for over 30 years. Up until 14 years ago my cats were
fed commercial pet food. None of my cats lived past the age of 12 and
had one problem after another through their life.

I've also had cats for just over 30 years - since June '73. My cats, otoh,
have all been fed commercial food - premium since '91, & have so far lived
to be 16 & 17 (almost 18). My current cats are 11 & just 4. For every
story on one side of the table one is liable to find a story on the other
side of the table..

Cathy

--
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("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon

From:

Steve wrote:

I have NEVER hidden my employment in
any way. I do periodically post a note on
this and couple other NG's that I frequent.

In all the time I've read this newsgroup I can recall only one time that
you posted that you worked for Hills on your own without someone else
pointing it out first. You never say you do unless someone brings it up
first.

I remember when I first started reading posts in this newsgroup and came across
Steve Crane's posts. I always wondered why he so highly recommended HIll's
foods, but I just figured he liked them. I had no idea he actually worked for
Hill's until it was pointed out to me.

Lauren
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Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm
Lauren
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=^..^=
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To Error is Human, To be Purrfect is Feline

From:

Steve wrote:

I have NEVER hidden my employment in
any way. I do periodically post a note on
this and couple other NG's that I frequent.

In all the time I've read this newsgroup I can recall only one time that
you posted that you worked for Hills on your own without someone else
pointing it out first. You never say you do unless someone brings it up
first.

I remember when I first started reading posts in this newsgroup and came across
Steve Crane's posts. I always wondered why he so highly recommended HIll's
foods, but I just figured he liked them. I had no idea he actually worked for
Hill's until it was pointed out to me.

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm
Lauren
_________
=^..^=
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
To Error is Human, To be Purrfect is Feline

From: (GAUBSTER2)

Diseased parts ARE used.

This is NOT happening (in the US). Meat is rejected by inspectors.


Maybe for human consumption, but NOT for petfood. Wake up and smell the
coffee, Gaubster, or in this case, diseased carcases.

From: (GAUBSTER2)

Diseased parts ARE used.

This is NOT happening (in the US). Meat is rejected by inspectors.


Maybe for human consumption, but NOT for petfood. Wake up and smell the
coffee, Gaubster, or in this case, diseased carcases.

From: (GAUBSTER2)

These things happen more in the U.S. then any other country and what
makes you think that Hill's is any better then the grocery store
brands?

Because I've researched them rather vigorously and I know for a fact that
they
don't use/do the things you allege in your "book".

and just how do you know this for a fact?

In fact, I would dare you
to finger Hill's as being guilty of any of the things you allege. You would
be
sued so fast, you wouldn't know what hit you.

Apparently Hill's doesn't have a basis for a lawsuit. I believe they were
named in Ms. Martin's book and they haven't sued her. Kinda makes you wonder
why not, now doesn't it? Maybe Hill's that you think is so great, really
isn't.

From: (GAUBSTER2)

These things happen more in the U.S. then any other country and what
makes you think that Hill's is any better then the grocery store
brands?

Because I've researched them rather vigorously and I know for a fact that
they
don't use/do the things you allege in your "book".

and just how do you know this for a fact?

In fact, I would dare you
to finger Hill's as being guilty of any of the things you allege. You would
be
sued so fast, you wouldn't know what hit you.

Apparently Hill's doesn't have a basis for a lawsuit. I believe they were
named in Ms. Martin's book and they haven't sued her. Kinda makes you wonder
why not, now doesn't it? Maybe Hill's that you think is so great, really
isn't.

From: (GAUBSTER2)

Because I've researched them rather vigorously and I know for a fact that
they
don't use/do the things you allege in your "book". In fact, I wo

Please provide links, or descriptions of your proof/research

I've contacted the company directly in writing and by phone, years ago.

and you believed what they told you?

From: (GAUBSTER2)

Because I've researched them rather vigorously and I know for a fact that
they
don't use/do the things you allege in your "book". In fact, I wo

Please provide links, or descriptions of your proof/research

I've contacted the company directly in writing and by phone, years ago.

and you believed what they told you?

From: (GAUBSTER2)

You just told me that I "haven't read the book, either." This is a clear
admission by you that "you" have not read the book, yet now you claim to
have "seen" paragraphs. "Seeing" paragraphs is not the same as "reading"
them, and this is typical of your backpedaling tactics. You have yet to
prove or back up any of your claims.

Megan, this is likely the last time I will respond to you. It's become quite
clear to me that you are not someone I should waste my time on.

LOL, you really are ridiculous, do you know that? Why don't you want to
respond to Megan anymore? Because she sees you for what you are - a no nothing
narrow minded opinionated jerk who changes his story as things go along? Do
you have training wheels on that bike?