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IBKFergus is leaving ;-(
"Rhonda" wrote in message
... I wish her the best. Will the AWL let you know how she's doing? They won't tell me anything further about her when I give her up as they've had issues with ex-owners wanting their animals back and stealing hem from new owners or making a big fuss and abusing the staff of where the animal goes (I won't know where she's located). I sign all my rights to her away when i sign her over. All I know is that they do not put down healthy animals *ever*, and that if she is adopted, the new family will be properly asessed as suitable before she goes with them. If she isn't adopted, she'll be living in a humane cattery with other cats that find themselves homeless, and be tended by volunteers. She won't want for shelter and food for the rest of her life. She doesn't much like human attention, so its unlikely that the lack of "luvvins" will bother her. The more I think about it, th emore I'm satisfied I'm doing he best thing by her and us. its not ideal, no, but the best given he circumstances available. At least, no matter what happens, she'll be able to live out all her nine lives, and she does have a hope of getting a foreverhome that will be more suited to her temperament than here. The Animal Welfare lady plus two vets (at seperate facilities) concur. Whilst it is possible hat she attacked because she was in pain, or needed behavioral therapy, or had some other medical problem, there is no 'instant fix' for a cat that is agressive no matter what the underlying cause, and it may well be that its simply because she is a *feral* cat. And beacause there is no 'instant' fix, and certainly no guarantee that whatever I try would work, Cary's safety must take precedence. Whilst no-one can be 100% sure about any animal, it would be child neglect to allow Cary to continue to have access to an animal with a record of agressiveness. And I would die a thousand deaths if, after knowing IBKFergus is capable of, I let her stay only to have her maul Cary the way she mauled me. No behaviorial therapist or drug program, no operation or no medical intervention can guarantee that she won't suddenly turn again. The risk is just *not* acceptable. If she was a dog, there'd not even be an issue here - dogs that have atacked humans are immediately put down without question. What I'm giving her is a chance at a life where the humans have the time and patience and environment to deal with her nervousness - something we can't give her - and at the very least, she'll be safe, warm and fed. The Animal Welfare League will also be receiving 'alimony' from me that would cover the cost of IBKFergus in food and vet bills had she been living here. She is, after all, still my moral responsibility, even if I am no longer her 'custodial carer'. Others in different situations, different skills, different priorities may have amde different decisions, but this is the best *I* can do in this situation, with my skills and my resources. Yowie |
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IBKFergus is leaving ;-(
Yowie wrote:
snip She's been confined ot the Garage during Cary's waking hours (Cary sleeps with the bedroom door shut - he has to otherwise IBKFergus gets in and wraps herself around his head) snip From the way you've described the interactions between Cary and IBKFergus sice she arrived, I honestly believe that Cary is the person least at risk in your household. Somehow animals seem to understand youngsters and will let children get away with things an adult never would. Having said that, you can see the situation first hand so you're in a better position to judge than anyone on the group. Purrs once again for a resolution that suits all, fured and bare. -- Adrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk |
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IBKFergus is leaving ;-(
It reminds me of my mother, she keeps calling Snoopy he, even though she knows she's female. We have a cat where I work called Stamford and everyone assumes Stamford is male when in fact Stamford is female. It's so ingrained that when someone said Stamford had had kittens nearly everyone said "Oh has he?" and didn't realise what they were saying Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs |
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IBKFergus is leaving ;-(
{{{{{Yowie, Cary, Jeol, IBKFergus}}}}
Purrs for your aching hearts, and that IBKFergus has a happy life wherever she ends up. One good side is I bet Smoggleberry does a happydance now that the 'annoying brat' is gone. OK, maybe not a happydance, but at least a huge sigh of relief (or maybe just a snore ). Yowie wrote: "Rhonda" wrote in message ... I wish her the best. Will the AWL let you know how she's doing? They won't tell me anything further about her when I give her up as they've had issues with ex-owners wanting their animals back and stealing hem from new owners or making a big fuss and abusing the staff of where the animal goes (I won't know where she's located). I sign all my rights to her away when i sign her over. All I know is that they do not put down healthy animals *ever*, and that if she is adopted, the new family will be properly assessed as suitable before she goes with them. If she isn't adopted, she'll be living in a humane cattery with other cats that find themselves homeless, and be tended by volunteers. She won't want for shelter and food for the rest of her life. She doesn't much like human attention, so its unlikely that the lack of "luvvins" will bother her. The more I think about it, th emore I'm satisfied I'm doing he best thing by her and us. its not ideal, no, but the best given he circumstances available. At least, no matter what happens, she'll be able to live out all her nine lives, and she does have a hope of getting a foreverhome that will be more suited to her temperament than here. The Animal Welfare lady plus two vets (at seperate facilities) concur. Whilst it is possible hat she attacked because she was in pain, or needed behavioral therapy, or had some other medical problem, there is no 'instant fix' for a cat that is agressive no matter what the underlying cause, and it may well be that its simply because she is a *feral* cat. And beacause there is no 'instant' fix, and certainly no guarantee that whatever I try would work, Cary's safety must take precedence. Whilst no-one can be 100% sure about any animal, it would be child neglect to allow Cary to continue to have access to an animal with a record of agressiveness. And I would die a thousand deaths if, after knowing IBKFergus is capable of, I let her stay only to have her maul Cary the way she mauled me. No behaviorial therapist or drug program, no operation or no medical intervention can guarantee that she won't suddenly turn again. The risk is just *not* acceptable. If she was a dog, there'd not even be an issue here - dogs that have atacked humans are immediately put down without question. What I'm giving her is a chance at a life where the humans have the time and patience and environment to deal with her nervousness - something we can't give her - and at the very least, she'll be safe, warm and fed. The Animal Welfare League will also be receiving 'alimony' from me that would cover the cost of IBKFergus in food and vet bills had she been living here. She is, after all, still my moral responsibility, even if I am no longer her 'custodial carer'. Others in different situations, different skills, different priorities may have amde different decisions, but this is the best *I* can do in this situation, with my skills and my resources. Yowie |
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IBKFergus is leaving ;-(
On 2006-05-22, Adrian A penned:
Monique Y. Mudama wrote: Maybe I'm overly sensitive to it, as I have a female cat named Oscar. It reminds me of my mother, she keeps calling Snoopy he, even though she knows she's female. Her excuse is, she doesn't remember sex these days, she's 72. I really messed up my mom. Cats in German are feminine, but when I got Oscar (and thought she was a boy) I made a big stink about mom using masculine pronouns. Now she still calls Oscar he =P -- monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca |
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IBKFergus is leaving ;-(
On 2006-05-22, Yowie penned:
Cary's safety must take precedence. Whilst no-one can be 100% sure about any animal, it would be child neglect to allow Cary to continue to have access to an animal with a record of agressiveness. And I would die a thousand deaths if, after knowing IBKFergus is capable of, I let her stay only to have her maul Cary the way she mauled me. No behaviorial therapist or drug program, no operation or no medical intervention can guarantee that she won't suddenly turn again. The risk is just *not* acceptable. If she was a dog, there'd not even be an issue here - dogs that have atacked humans are immediately put down without question. As I posted before, I understand where you're coming from. I just want to note here that not all dogs are immediately put down for biting. -- monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca |
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IBKFergus is leaving ;-(
On 2006-05-22, wafflycat penned:
wrote in message roups.com... Declawing would not be a solution. She would just turn into a biter. This post makes me want to cry. Sherry Declawing is incredibly cruel. Regular trimming of claws is humane and effective. Works a treat with my feral: Marble, a.k.a. PsychoCatFromHell ;-) His claws, if left untrimmed, resemble those found on a velociraptor... I agree that declawing isn't the answer, and anyway, IBKFergus bit Yowie; she didn't claw. -- monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca |
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On Sun, 21 May 2006 22:38:22 -0400, Takayuki
yodeled: wrote: I have to admit that this went through my mind as a possible solution for IBKFergus's aggression. But I don't know which would be more cruel, euthanization or declawing. I think people have come up with a number of creative ideas that don't involve either of the above, so I hope that a good solution is found!! If I absolutely had to make a choice between the two, it would be declawing - I'm they can still live happy full lives, just as cats who are blind or missing a leg can, but I kind of doubt that this would help. If IBK is just aggressive, wouldn't that turn her into a biter, which would be worse? It wouldn't necessarily be worse. And it wouldn't necessarily happen. I hate to admit it, but when we had Charcoal-cat declawed he calmed down a lot, and I have a theory why. I think for all his demonic tendencies, he was at heart just not well socialized, grew up with lots of other cats and not so many people, and was just a rough player. I think when he didn't slash us all to ribbons every time he hit out at us, we stopped screaming and yelling when it happened. We didn't react, so he didn't get more excited and escalate the attacks. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com Make Levees, Not War |
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IBKFergus is leaving ;-(
Monique Y. Mudama wrote: On 2006-05-22, wafflycat penned: wrote in message roups.com... Declawing would not be a solution. She would just turn into a biter. This post makes me want to cry. Sherry Declawing is incredibly cruel. Regular trimming of claws is humane and effective. Works a treat with my feral: Marble, a.k.a. PsychoCatFromHell ;-) His claws, if left untrimmed, resemble those found on a velociraptor... I agree that declawing isn't the answer, and anyway, IBKFergus bit Yowie; she didn't claw. -- monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully I interpreted Yowie's post with the understanding that it *was* a scratch, not a bite. |
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