Establishing Dominance

Soo, from the onset, when you first bring a pet home...

suppose that pet raises up on you, what do you do

"bigbadbarry" wrote in message
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Soo, from the onset, when you first bring a pet home...

suppose that pet raises up on you, what do you do


Well, Barry, in any matter that does not draw blood, I
imagine you ask your master how high he wants you to jump.

On 7 May 2005 21:54:35 -0700, "bigbadbarry"
wrote:

Soo, from the onset, when you first bring a pet home...

suppose that pet raises up on you, what do you do

If it's a dog, you back down immediately and don't go near it for a
good long time. Neither do you feed it for a good long time. The
apha is the one who controls the resources, not the one with the
stupid, confrontational attitude.

Charlie

"Charlie Wilkes" wrote:

The
apha is the one who controls the resources, not the one with the
stupid, confrontational attitude.


Excellent point, Charlie.

Charlie Wilkes wrote:
On 7 May 2005 21:54:35 -0700, "bigbadbarry"

wrote:

Soo, from the onset, when you first bring a pet home...

suppose that pet raises up on you, what do you do

If it's a dog, you back down immediately and don't go near it for a
good long time. Neither do you feed it for a good long time. The
apha is the one who controls the resources, not the one with the
stupid, confrontational attitude.

Charlie

My parents never ever took food from us to discipline us, and we did
some deeds we shure did, but come dinner time; you don't starve your
kids or your animals.

A good man sees to the needs of his animal.

Bringing a maniac animal home is not likely for most people, that would
be like someone saying "I'm scared if I marry her she will be ugly",
thats silly, you don't court her in the first place (you consider her
ugly), natural selection or something.

I don't understand your technic / It sounds unusual to me.

I don't think there is a blanket answer, things can happen pretty quick
sometimes, like, maybe an owner is unable to "back down".

Pets ulitmately are an extenion of the owner - as far as how they treat
other people.

Mary wrote:
"Charlie Wilkes" wrote:

The
apha is the one who controls the resources, not the one with the
stupid, confrontational attitude.


Excellent point, Charlie.

I would never deprive Ruprecht of food for a "Good Long Time", no
matter what he did, I consider that cruel, at best.

What Charlie says kinda sounds good, but after thinking about it, I
don't think it is the answer, I couldn't find a place in my mind to
file that one.

"bigbadbarry" wrote in message
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Mary wrote:
"Charlie Wilkes" wrote:

The
apha is the one who controls the resources, not the one with the
stupid, confrontational attitude.


Excellent point, Charlie.

I would never deprive Ruprecht of food for a "Good Long Time", no
matter what he did, I consider that cruel, at best.

What Charlie says kinda sounds good, but after thinking about it, I
don't think it is the answer, I couldn't find a place in my mind to
file that one.


I was responding to what he said works with aggressive dogs, not
cats. Very different things. Sorry for the confusion. (For cats
there are no "alphas.")

On 8 May 2005 21:01:35 -0700, "bigbadbarry"
wrote:


Charlie Wilkes wrote:
On 7 May 2005 21:54:35 -0700, "bigbadbarry"

wrote:

Soo, from the onset, when you first bring a pet home...

suppose that pet raises up on you, what do you do

If it's a dog, you back down immediately and don't go near it for a
good long time. Neither do you feed it for a good long time. The
apha is the one who controls the resources, not the one with the
stupid, confrontational attitude.

Charlie

My parents never ever took food from us to discipline us, and we did
some deeds we shure did, but come dinner time; you don't starve your
kids or your animals.

A good man sees to the needs of his animal.

Yeah, I'm a bad man. My animals are always starving. Call the
police.


Bringing a maniac animal home is not likely for most people, that would
be like someone saying "I'm scared if I marry her she will be ugly",
thats silly, you don't court her in the first place (you consider her
ugly), natural selection or something.

I don't understand your technic / It sounds unusual to me.

Look, I have been around and around and around on this over in
rec.pets.dogs.behavior. You will find plenty of people over there who
think I'm full of ****. They want to confront their dogs with
displays of power and force, and they are absolutely sure that is the
right approach. No arguments have any effect, and if I quote
well-regarded authors, they say I'm too stupid to understand what I am
quoting. Then they post rationalizations about why they had to
euthenize an aggressive dog. I'm sick of it. This is the cat group.

Charlie

Charlie Wilkes wrote:
Charlie

You brought up the dogs man..chill!

Lady in room 1005 has a blood drawing cat on her hands.

On Mon, 9 May 2005 00:51:53 -0400, "Mary" wrote:


"bigbadbarry" wrote in message
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Mary wrote:
"Charlie Wilkes" wrote:

The
apha is the one who controls the resources, not the one with the
stupid, confrontational attitude.


Excellent point, Charlie.

I would never deprive Ruprecht of food for a "Good Long Time", no
matter what he did, I consider that cruel, at best.

What Charlie says kinda sounds good, but after thinking about it, I
don't think it is the answer, I couldn't find a place in my mind to
file that one.


I was responding to what he said works with aggressive dogs, not
cats. Very different things. Sorry for the confusion. (For cats
there are no "alphas.")

Over the weekend I tried to lure the bathroom cat closer by
withholding food for a day and then putting food out and staying in
the room. I didn't work after an hour or so, so I left the room and
let it eat. Perhaps the experiment was inhumane, but my goal has been
to encourage this creature to trust me so I can minimize her trauma
when the inevitable vetting and spaying comes, which will be this week
come hell or high water.

I don't know about no alpha cats. I'm pretty clear on who the alpha
is between me and the bathroom cat. Good kitty, could I please take a
shower now?

Charlie