OT. Rant

"Victor Martinez" wrote in message


I just told Tom that if his sister and her husband voted for the
anti-gay ammendment in their state's election, then they are not welcome
in our house. I'm sorry, but if you find my relationship so repugnant,
that you would vote to inscribe discrimination in your state's
constitution, then I do not want to welcome you into my house.

{{{{{BIG HUGS VICTOR}}}}} Whilst I accept it happens and that many
people *are* biggoted numbf*cks (which is what the people on the
anti-gay crusade are)
it saddens me every time I see anything like this. It DOESN'T matter
who you do or don't love, or what your sexual orientation is. It is
irrelevant to
who you are as a person. If it makes any difference Victor, I'm proud
to call you my friend, and I can only ENVY the relationship that you and
Tom have.

As an aside, the bible has been used throughout history to justify and
defend many horrible things, from the crusades to slavery in the US and
the oppresion of women.

Christian fundamentalism is a very scary concept, as is any kind of
fundamentalism, and is a way of oppressing the masses. I respect that
may people here have strong Christian beliefs, but I do often find it
profoundly disturbing the way that certain elements interpret the more
radical elements of (many) different religions interpret theirreligious
teachings for their own ends.

Helen M (stopping now, before she goes off on a rant)


--
Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

"Takayuki" wrote in message
news
a Japanese conservative emailed me and told me that the
United States should be ruled by an emperor.

It isn't? Bush thinks he is....



--
Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

"Takayuki" wrote in message
news
a Japanese conservative emailed me and told me that the
United States should be ruled by an emperor.

It isn't? Bush thinks he is....



--
Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

In article ,
omcom (dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers) wrote:


I think this country must be pretty open-minded and
unbiased to elect someone like her for pres. Oh, and she has two cats!
)



Anyone wanting to emigrate to Finland, raise your hand! :-) Finland does
seem
remarkably *civilised*

Cheers, helen s

True, but even colder than Massachusetts.
Suz
Macmoosette
Thank Heavens There's Only One
=^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^=



Waiting for inspiration. Please hold while I contemplate my navel.

|\__/|
(=':'=)
(")_(")

In article ,
omcom (dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers) wrote:


I think this country must be pretty open-minded and
unbiased to elect someone like her for pres. Oh, and she has two cats!
)



Anyone wanting to emigrate to Finland, raise your hand! :-) Finland does
seem
remarkably *civilised*

Cheers, helen s

True, but even colder than Massachusetts.
Suz
Macmoosette
Thank Heavens There's Only One
=^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^=



Waiting for inspiration. Please hold while I contemplate my navel.

|\__/|
(=':'=)
(")_(")

In article , "Christina Websell"
wrote:


I'm very upset. I've mailed for quite a few years to an American woman
that
I knew from my chicken group. We got on pretty well.
Last year she forwarded me a mail that I considered to be racist, but it
was
only a few hours before I was due to fly to visit my German friend, so
I
mailed a disapproving reply and said I'd like to discuss it with her when
I
got back. I never did.

A few weeks ago she started to forward me pro-Bush mails. Well, I'm sorry,

but he seems to be a bit shall we say intellectually challenged, so I said

so.

But now, she is sending what seems to some sort of fundamental Christian

mails to me. Extremely racist, homophobic and right wing. I have
challenged her on every mail and she just got cross and said I was a stupid

liberal. There is more, but I won't bore you with it. I just won't have

her tell me that she refuses to let anyone into America and if so they
must
speak English. For G's sake. If she was true to her word she ought to

speak Native American. It isn't her country, after all.

I told her I don't want to have a friend who thinks like this. She told
me
she doesn't want to have a friend that is ineducable about what is going
on
in America.

It will be painful for me to fall out with her, but I cannot tolerate a

racist and bigot. She thinks she is right, and I think I am right.
I can't see that being a racist and a bigot is right in any country. She

quotes the Bible at me. I told her that I didn't think God was a bigot.
This is hard for me. We have been friends, and we are falling out about

Bush. That was the first thing. I'll never compromise about the other

racism and homophobic stuff.
It might be the end of our friendship.

Tweed


I have a cousin who does this. I usually delete his mail without reading it.
Suz
Macmoosette
Thank Heavens There's Only One
=^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^=



Waiting for inspiration. Please hold while I contemplate my navel.

|\__/|
(=':'=)
(")_(")

In article , "Christina Websell"
wrote:


I'm very upset. I've mailed for quite a few years to an American woman
that
I knew from my chicken group. We got on pretty well.
Last year she forwarded me a mail that I considered to be racist, but it
was
only a few hours before I was due to fly to visit my German friend, so
I
mailed a disapproving reply and said I'd like to discuss it with her when
I
got back. I never did.

A few weeks ago she started to forward me pro-Bush mails. Well, I'm sorry,

but he seems to be a bit shall we say intellectually challenged, so I said

so.

But now, she is sending what seems to some sort of fundamental Christian

mails to me. Extremely racist, homophobic and right wing. I have
challenged her on every mail and she just got cross and said I was a stupid

liberal. There is more, but I won't bore you with it. I just won't have

her tell me that she refuses to let anyone into America and if so they
must
speak English. For G's sake. If she was true to her word she ought to

speak Native American. It isn't her country, after all.

I told her I don't want to have a friend who thinks like this. She told
me
she doesn't want to have a friend that is ineducable about what is going
on
in America.

It will be painful for me to fall out with her, but I cannot tolerate a

racist and bigot. She thinks she is right, and I think I am right.
I can't see that being a racist and a bigot is right in any country. She

quotes the Bible at me. I told her that I didn't think God was a bigot.
This is hard for me. We have been friends, and we are falling out about

Bush. That was the first thing. I'll never compromise about the other

racism and homophobic stuff.
It might be the end of our friendship.

Tweed


I have a cousin who does this. I usually delete his mail without reading it.
Suz
Macmoosette
Thank Heavens There's Only One
=^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^=



Waiting for inspiration. Please hold while I contemplate my navel.

|\__/|
(=':'=)
(")_(")

In article , Takayuki
wrote:


Your friend's views must seen about as relevant as if an Iranian
conservative emailed me and told me that Massachusetts should adopt
the sharia, or a Japanese conservative emailed me and told me that the
United States should be ruled by an emperor.



Massachusetts having an Emperor made me giggle. The American Revolution started
here.
Suz
Macmoosette
Thank Heavens There's Only One
=^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^=



Waiting for inspiration. Please hold while I contemplate my navel.

|\__/|
(=':'=)
(")_(")

In article , Takayuki
wrote:


Your friend's views must seen about as relevant as if an Iranian
conservative emailed me and told me that Massachusetts should adopt
the sharia, or a Japanese conservative emailed me and told me that the
United States should be ruled by an emperor.



Massachusetts having an Emperor made me giggle. The American Revolution started
here.
Suz
Macmoosette
Thank Heavens There's Only One
=^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^=



Waiting for inspiration. Please hold while I contemplate my navel.

|\__/|
(=':'=)
(")_(")

On 19 Nov 2004 08:12:00 GMT, omcom
(dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers) wrote:

I think this country must be pretty open-minded and
unbiased to elect someone like her for pres. Oh, and she has two cats! )



Anyone wanting to emigrate to Finland, raise your hand! :-) Finland does seem
remarkably *civilised*

Cheers, helen s

--This is an invalid email address to avoid spam--
to get correct one remove fame & fortune
**$o m$

--Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off--

I'd move there tomorrow if I wasn't allergic to cold! ;-)

Ginger-lyn