Woman Let's Go Of Cat To Survive

"Cat Protector" wrote in message
news:88R2d.46839$OZ6.44127@okepread06...
I hadn't realized this thread was created to be putting me down. Did your
lifeguard training require put-downs of people here? It is amazing that
some
can't discuss a topic without acting like kids. I certainly will not
apologize for my love of my cats. I would not allow them to drown if faced
with that decision.


People who condemn the actions of those who find themselves
in terrifying situations never experienced by their critics quite
simply do not know what the hell they are talking about.
Reminds me of the stories about Jacqueline Kennedy after
her husband was shot. People felt she was disloyal or less
than honorable because she fled the car after having her
husband's head explode all over her.

"Nomen Nescio" ] wrote in message
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From: pam (Mary)

To be fair, I wasn't there so I can't really judge how bad
it was BUT she could have at least let the cat out of the carrier. It
would
have stood a chance that way. They can swim, probably would have grabbed
ahold
of something. So sad.

The poor cat would have probably climbed on her back, dug in the claws,
and gone along for the ride to safety. The bad decision was to put the cat
in the
carrier when there was the danger of having to drop the carrier for self
preservation.

Yes. And yet many of us would do this, expecting just to
make it to shelter and not wanting the cat to get panicked
and lost on the way.

I probably would have put a rope around the cat's neck, the other
end around mine, and held the cat tightly on my shoulder. By the time I
needed both hands to save myself, I doubt the cat would want to go
anywhere.
But no matter what, if I made it to the other side, so would the cat. But
I've
body surfed the big waves in Hawaii so rough water and heavy current is
no big deal to me (insert macho shrug here).
The woman was probably in a real panic and that tends to cause stupidity
to occur. Add in a little ignorance and inexperience with water and the
situation
can go critical real fast. It sucks, but it happens.



Nicely put. And, even though her words seem to make
little of it, I feel certain she is beating herself up over
her cat's horrible death.

"Nomen Nescio" ] wrote in message
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From: pam (Mary)

To be fair, I wasn't there so I can't really judge how bad
it was BUT she could have at least let the cat out of the carrier. It
would
have stood a chance that way. They can swim, probably would have grabbed
ahold
of something. So sad.

The poor cat would have probably climbed on her back, dug in the claws,
and gone along for the ride to safety. The bad decision was to put the cat
in the
carrier when there was the danger of having to drop the carrier for self
preservation.

Yes. And yet many of us would do this, expecting just to
make it to shelter and not wanting the cat to get panicked
and lost on the way.

I probably would have put a rope around the cat's neck, the other
end around mine, and held the cat tightly on my shoulder. By the time I
needed both hands to save myself, I doubt the cat would want to go
anywhere.
But no matter what, if I made it to the other side, so would the cat. But
I've
body surfed the big waves in Hawaii so rough water and heavy current is
no big deal to me (insert macho shrug here).
The woman was probably in a real panic and that tends to cause stupidity
to occur. Add in a little ignorance and inexperience with water and the
situation
can go critical real fast. It sucks, but it happens.



Nicely put. And, even though her words seem to make
little of it, I feel certain she is beating herself up over
her cat's horrible death.

"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message
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in article , Sherry at
itty wrote on 9/17/04 11:48 PM:

She didn't need to let the cat go especially with the poor feline
inside the
cage. I would have done everything possible to make sure the cat was
also
saved. This woman also took a rather passive view at the whole thing as
if
to treat this cat as an object. That cat was a life and she let that
cat
drown so she could save herself. I have to wonder if she would have
done
this to another human.

Dont judge the woman by the one single quote the reporter chose to use.
She
may
be totally devasted by the loss of her cat for all you know.
Sherry

You Guys!!!! This is CP? Are you bored or something? Accept and move on.


Nah. Sometimes shooting fish in a barrell is relaxing. :-)

"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message
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in article , Sherry at
itty wrote on 9/17/04 11:48 PM:

She didn't need to let the cat go especially with the poor feline
inside the
cage. I would have done everything possible to make sure the cat was
also
saved. This woman also took a rather passive view at the whole thing as
if
to treat this cat as an object. That cat was a life and she let that
cat
drown so she could save herself. I have to wonder if she would have
done
this to another human.

Dont judge the woman by the one single quote the reporter chose to use.
She
may
be totally devasted by the loss of her cat for all you know.
Sherry

You Guys!!!! This is CP? Are you bored or something? Accept and move on.


Nah. Sometimes shooting fish in a barrell is relaxing. :-)

"Sherry " wrote in message
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Dont judge the woman by the one single quote the reporter chose to use.
She
may
be totally devasted by the loss of her cat for all you know.
Sherry

You Guys!!!! This is CP? Are you bored or something? Accept and move on.

Sigh. Sorry Karen.
I just can't stand it when somebody sits all high and mighty and says "OH,
I
wouldn't do that." When none of us knows *what* we would do. CP is making
it
sound like the woman made a calculated decision like "Gee, I can't hang
onto
this carrier and save myself, too. I think I'll sacrifice the cat to save
my
ass. Bye, Kitty." When everything probably happened so fast, and the woman
may
have *tried* and lacked the physical strength to hang on to it.

I really doubt the woman was as blase about it as the reporter makes it
sound.
Reporters have a way of "reporting" a story to the angle they choose, and
taking a quote completely out of context.
I also bet a weird self-preservation mode kicks in when we're in a panic
situation. Some people would lose their lives trying to save their cats;
I
think everybody would for their kids. But they don't "think" and "decide".
It
just kicks in.

Sherry

Exactly how I feel.

"Sherry " wrote in message
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Dont judge the woman by the one single quote the reporter chose to use.
She
may
be totally devasted by the loss of her cat for all you know.
Sherry

You Guys!!!! This is CP? Are you bored or something? Accept and move on.

Sigh. Sorry Karen.
I just can't stand it when somebody sits all high and mighty and says "OH,
I
wouldn't do that." When none of us knows *what* we would do. CP is making
it
sound like the woman made a calculated decision like "Gee, I can't hang
onto
this carrier and save myself, too. I think I'll sacrifice the cat to save
my
ass. Bye, Kitty." When everything probably happened so fast, and the woman
may
have *tried* and lacked the physical strength to hang on to it.

I really doubt the woman was as blase about it as the reporter makes it
sound.
Reporters have a way of "reporting" a story to the angle they choose, and
taking a quote completely out of context.
I also bet a weird self-preservation mode kicks in when we're in a panic
situation. Some people would lose their lives trying to save their cats;
I
think everybody would for their kids. But they don't "think" and "decide".
It
just kicks in.

Sherry

Exactly how I feel.

Yes, it was read but you can actually grab onto a floating propane tank with
one arm while holding a cat in the other. These people seemed to wait until
the last minute to evacuate. When there is flooding water you don't drive
your truck through it. She also could have opened the cage and given the cat
a chance considering a cat can swim and possibly gotten to higher ground or
had a fighting chance. This woman was entirely too light on the situation
about letting her cat go as if he/she were a part of their possessions
floating away. It makes me wonder if people like this would also let a human
child drown so they could save their own necks.

In a crisis situation, it is amazing how expendable an animal can be to some
humans. They ask so little from us as humans and when faced with crisis some
would rather let the animal suffer in order to save their own necks. It is
terrible that Ivan wreaked so much havoc but despite this one story there
were others coming out of the region where people actually stayed with their
cats, dogs and other animals instead of leaving them behind in the house. If
I was unable to evacuate, I'd certainly stay with mine. My cats are my kids
so I wouldn't abandon them in a crisis.

--
Cat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time!
www.catgalaxymedia.com
"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
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Did you read the full story? I can't imagine how devastating it would be
to
face something like this. One of my greatest fears has always been that I
would lose one of my cats in something like a fire or flood and not be
able
to save it. At the same time, the man and woman in this article had
stepped
out of their truck only to find that the vehicle had actually been
floating
because they were in water over their heads. According to the article,
they
swam as hard as they could and managed to grab a floating propane tank.
In
rapidly swirling water like that, how could the woman possibly hold the
cat's carrier or even open it? She was probably hanging on as hard as she
could to avoid being washed away. Flood waters are unbelievably powerful,
and I don't see how any of us can really say what we could or would do in
those circumstances. I do think her remark about "missing her kitty" was
entirely too cavalier, but we also do not know if she was accurately
quoted
or what her state of mind was at the time, considering what she had been
through.
http://tinyurl.com/66feb

MaryL

Yes, it was read but you can actually grab onto a floating propane tank with
one arm while holding a cat in the other. These people seemed to wait until
the last minute to evacuate. When there is flooding water you don't drive
your truck through it. She also could have opened the cage and given the cat
a chance considering a cat can swim and possibly gotten to higher ground or
had a fighting chance. This woman was entirely too light on the situation
about letting her cat go as if he/she were a part of their possessions
floating away. It makes me wonder if people like this would also let a human
child drown so they could save their own necks.

In a crisis situation, it is amazing how expendable an animal can be to some
humans. They ask so little from us as humans and when faced with crisis some
would rather let the animal suffer in order to save their own necks. It is
terrible that Ivan wreaked so much havoc but despite this one story there
were others coming out of the region where people actually stayed with their
cats, dogs and other animals instead of leaving them behind in the house. If
I was unable to evacuate, I'd certainly stay with mine. My cats are my kids
so I wouldn't abandon them in a crisis.

--
Cat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time!
www.catgalaxymedia.com
"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
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Did you read the full story? I can't imagine how devastating it would be
to
face something like this. One of my greatest fears has always been that I
would lose one of my cats in something like a fire or flood and not be
able
to save it. At the same time, the man and woman in this article had
stepped
out of their truck only to find that the vehicle had actually been
floating
because they were in water over their heads. According to the article,
they
swam as hard as they could and managed to grab a floating propane tank.
In
rapidly swirling water like that, how could the woman possibly hold the
cat's carrier or even open it? She was probably hanging on as hard as she
could to avoid being washed away. Flood waters are unbelievably powerful,
and I don't see how any of us can really say what we could or would do in
those circumstances. I do think her remark about "missing her kitty" was
entirely too cavalier, but we also do not know if she was accurately
quoted
or what her state of mind was at the time, considering what she had been
through.
http://tinyurl.com/66feb

MaryL

Driving a truck through a raging flood was not a smart thing to do. When we
get flooding in the washes here due to a rainstorm you'd be surprised how
many people try to drive their cars through it and get stuck despite signs
being posted that say "don't drive through when flooded." This woman could
have saved the cat if she had wanted to. Simply opening the cage would have
given the cat a fighting chance to survive.

--
Cat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time!
www.catgalaxymedia.com

"Wendy" wrote in message
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On the few occasions when I had personal knowledge about a story published
in the newspaper they got the story wrong every time. Some mistakes were
worse than others but in every case there was an inaccurate statement or
quote. We don't know if this woman said something between saying her
property wasn't important and saying she missed her cat. We also don't
know
if she elaborated about her feelings about the cat and that wasn't
included.

Her inclination was to save the cat or it wouldn't have been in the truck
with her. It makes sense to have the cat confined so if it freaked out it
couldn't get away. Once they realized the truck was floating there
probably
wasn't time to roust the cat out of the cage/carrier or she still felt the
cat would be safer confined so it wouldn't leap out of her arms into the
flood waters. Maybe by that time she was so scared she just couldn't think
straight. Maybe in those circumstances there is no thinking straight.

It's hard to say what one would do in her position. None of us was there.
I'm sure all of us would do the best we could to save our guys but who
knows
whether we would be able to save them or not.

W