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Mine cave in in Utah
If anyone has some spare purrs, more are needed for the miners in Utah.
There has been another cave in at the Huntington mine and apparently several of the rescuers were injured. There is also a rumor of one death. |
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Mine cave in in Utah
"mlbriggs" wrote in message news If anyone has some spare purrs, more are needed for the miners in Utah. There has been another cave in at the Huntington mine and apparently several of the rescuers were injured. There is also a rumor of one death. Purr in route I saw the news report they reported 3 deaths 7 injuries http://www.local6.com/news/13912408/...09240208162007 |
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Mine cave in in Utah
Matthew wrote:
"mlbriggs" wrote in message news If anyone has some spare purrs, more are needed for the miners in Utah. There has been another cave in at the Huntington mine and apparently several of the rescuers were injured. There is also a rumor of one death. Purr in route I saw the news report they reported 3 deaths 7 injuries http://www.local6.com/news/13912408/...09240208162007 Purrs on the way for the miners, the rescue workers and all of their families and friends. I'm obviously no expert but you'd think in this day and age they'd have better technology to help prevent cave-ins such as this (I understand there is seismic activity in that area?). And what horrible news for the families and friends of the miners to hear/read news reports they are considering giving up the rescue efforts. Jill |
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Mine cave in in Utah
If anyone has some spare purrs, more are needed for the miners in Utah. There has been another cave in at the Huntington mine and apparently several of the rescuers were injured. There is also a rumor of one death. Purr in route I saw the news report they reported 3 deaths 7 injuries http://www.local6.com/news/13912408/...09240208162007 Purrs on the way for the miners, the rescue workers and all of their families and friends. I'm obviously no expert but you'd think in this day and age they'd have better technology to help prevent cave-ins such as this (I understand there is seismic activity in that area?). And what horrible news for the families and friends of the miners to hear/read news reports they are considering giving up the rescue efforts. Jill Prayers and purrs on the way for all that are even remotely involved with the rescue. |
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Mine cave in in Utah
"mlbriggs" wrote in message news If anyone has some spare purrs, more are needed for the miners in Utah. There has been another cave in at the Huntington mine and apparently several of the rescuers were injured. There is also a rumor of one death. We always have spare purrs around here. We can't imagine what the miners, rescuers and families are going through, and we send them our purrs and best thoughts. |
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Mine cave in in Utah
Matthew wrote: "mlbriggs" wrote in message news If anyone has some spare purrs, more are needed for the miners in Utah. There has been another cave in at the Huntington mine and apparently several of the rescuers were injured. There is also a rumor of one death. Does anyone think the original victims are still alive? Miners should get "danger money" like anyone else in a hazardous line of work, but do they? Since the "labor movement" has been emasculated by the joint efforts of big business and our government, are even reasonable safety measures required? Purr in route I saw the news report they reported 3 deaths 7 injuries http://www.local6.com/news/13912408/...09240208162007 |
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Mine cave in in Utah
On Aug 17, 1:07 pm, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
wrote: Matthew wrote: "mlbriggs" wrote in message news If anyone has some spare purrs, more are needed for the miners in Utah. There has been another cave in at the Huntington mine and apparently several of the rescuers were injured. There is also a rumor of one death. Does anyone think the original victims are still alive? Miners should get "danger money" like anyone else in a hazardous line of work, but do they? Since the "labor movement" has been emasculated by the joint efforts of big business and our government, are even reasonable safety measures required? I watched a program once about the coal mines in W. Virginia, Kentucky, etc. It was considered a highly-paid job, compared to other jobs in the area. The really unfortunate thing is, a lot of the men knew how dangerous it was, in so many ways...besides the possibility of injury, many of their fathers had worked in the mines & suffered lung disease from it. But for many, in that area, it was the only way they could earn a decent salary for their families. Really a sad Catch-22. Sherry |
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Mine cave in in Utah
Does anyone think the original victims are still alive?
Depends on how wet the mine is. With no floodwaters rising and no toxic gases, some of them could live for weeks. Miners should get "danger money" like anyone else in a hazardous line of work, but do they? An idea of what mine work is like: in WW2, British miners were forbidden to join the armed forces at first - being shot at by the Germans was a soft option compared with staying put to work underground. I watched a program once about the coal mines in W. Virginia, Kentucky, etc. It was considered a highly-paid job, compared to other jobs in the area. There *were* no other jobs in the area. This page is interesting: http://www.wvculture.org/History/minewars.html ============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ============== Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760 http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/ for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975 stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557 |
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"Sherry" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 17, 1:07 pm, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote: Matthew wrote: "mlbriggs" wrote in message news If anyone has some spare purrs, more are needed for the miners in Utah. There has been another cave in at the Huntington mine and apparently several of the rescuers were injured. There is also a rumor of one death. Does anyone think the original victims are still alive? Miners should get "danger money" like anyone else in a hazardous line of work, but do they? Since the "labor movement" has been emasculated by the joint efforts of big business and our government, are even reasonable safety measures required? I watched a program once about the coal mines in W. Virginia, Kentucky, etc. It was considered a highly-paid job, compared to other jobs in the area. The really unfortunate thing is, a lot of the men knew how dangerous it was, in so many ways...besides the possibility of injury, many of their fathers had worked in the mines & suffered lung disease from it. But for many, in that area, it was the only way they could earn a decent salary for their families. Really a sad Catch-22. Sherry I was born and raised in Kentucky up in the mountains like I have said many times before. I am for a coal mining town that still mines coal today. My families worked the mines. I worked them mines during summer while I was in High school. Our families worked the mines for many years till a lucky break and we were able to raise horse as our main income among other things When I was in the mines there was no safety rooms. there was no oxygen mask units. Many of the tunnels still used canaries as a gas warning. Cave ins were common. If there was a cave in you were considered dead. It would take weeks to dig out the area if they did. The owners just closed that section and went to the other areas. There were no computers to monitor the activity of the mountain. In the cave you had a cave boss their job was to watch the roof and walls and pull you out before a cave in. It was your life in your hands. You still used hammer, chisel no power equipment only to cut the main line. You used a old WW 2 type gas mask when you went deep or you were cutting to keep dust from getting in your lungs. I still remember the smell like a 3 year old gym sock that had fermented. My uncle made me wear that mask every time I went down. We all did for we had family die of Black lung. Many of the guys did not wear the mask or there was no enough available I still remember the old timers telling us that many of days men were dragged dead out of the mines where they had inhaled some much coal dust that they chocked to death. Back than they only used water to cool the drills and to keep the dust out of the equipment. The workers were dime a dozen many would die to make money and die they did. The money was good even back than I was making 12 an hour union wages. Now I have a friend you coal cuts; runs the drill $45 an hour union wages. he stays down only 3 hours at a time only twice a day in a environmental suit. There is a guy who stands in a bucket truck hosing the coal and trucks down to prevent dust from flying he make $10 union wages; no bad to run a hose. The cost of living is cheap up there The only times I was scared was when we went down the elevator there were no hand rails or safety bars. They crammed you in many of men lost their toes or fingers. A few were even dragged down the shaft when they lost their balance. There was only a maybe 3 inch clearance around the shaft elevator. I worked during my first couple years of high school but after a major cave in and deaths. I said time to move on I don't know if people know this about 70% of the mines in the USA are still operating in sub standards conditions. It is like illegal dumping it is cheaper to pay the fines than do the right thing |
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"Matthew" wrote in message ... "Sherry" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 17, 1:07 pm, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote: Matthew wrote: "mlbriggs" wrote in message news If anyone has some spare purrs, more are needed for the miners in Utah. There has been another cave in at the Huntington mine and apparently several of the rescuers were injured. There is also a rumor of one death. Does anyone think the original victims are still alive? Miners should get "danger money" like anyone else in a hazardous line of work, but do they? Since the "labor movement" has been emasculated by the joint efforts of big business and our government, are even reasonable safety measures required? I watched a program once about the coal mines in W. Virginia, Kentucky, etc. It was considered a highly-paid job, compared to other jobs in the area. The really unfortunate thing is, a lot of the men knew how dangerous it was, in so many ways...besides the possibility of injury, many of their fathers had worked in the mines & suffered lung disease from it. But for many, in that area, it was the only way they could earn a decent salary for their families. Really a sad Catch-22. Sherry I was born and raised in Kentucky up in the mountains like I have said many times before. I am for a coal mining town that still mines coal today. My families worked the mines. I worked them mines during summer while I was in High school. Our families worked the mines for many years till a lucky break and we were able to raise horse as our main income among other things When I was in the mines there was no safety rooms. there was no oxygen mask units. Many of the tunnels still used canaries as a gas warning. Cave ins were common. If there was a cave in you were considered dead. It would take weeks to dig out the area if they did. The owners just closed that section and went to the other areas. There were no computers to monitor the activity of the mountain. In the cave you had a cave boss their job was to watch the roof and walls and pull you out before a cave in. It was your life in your hands. You still used hammer, chisel no power equipment only to cut the main line. You used a old WW 2 type gas mask when you went deep or you were cutting to keep dust from getting in your lungs. I still remember the smell like a 3 year old gym sock that had fermented. My uncle made me wear that mask every time I went down. We all did for we had family die of Black lung. Many of the guys did not wear the mask or there was no enough available I still remember the old timers telling us that many of days men were dragged dead out of the mines where they had inhaled some much coal dust that they chocked to death. Back than they only used water to cool the drills and to keep the dust out of the equipment. The workers were dime a dozen many would die to make money and die they did. The money was good even back than I was making 12 an hour union wages. Now I have a friend you coal cuts; runs the drill $45 an hour union wages. he stays down only 3 hours at a time only twice a day in a environmental suit. There is a guy who stands in a bucket truck hosing the coal and trucks down to prevent dust from flying he make $10 union wages; no bad to run a hose. The cost of living is cheap up there The only times I was scared was when we went down the elevator there were no hand rails or safety bars. They crammed you in many of men lost their toes or fingers. A few were even dragged down the shaft when they lost their balance. There was only a maybe 3 inch clearance around the shaft elevator. I worked during my first couple years of high school but after a major cave in and deaths. I said time to move on I don't know if people know this about 70% of the mines in the USA are still operating in sub standards conditions. It is like illegal dumping it is cheaper to pay the fines than do the right thing Thanks for sharing this, Matthew. It told me a lot I didn't know about mining. I'm surprised there are still people willing to take the risk of working in mines. I guess money is a powerful incentive. Joy |
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