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  #451  
Old November 23rd 03, 11:22 PM
Sherry
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I've read the same thoughts posted *time
and time again* from UK friends. I don't know the reason,
or whether this is limited to specific outlying areas,
but there's got to be a reason for it....I'm certainly not going
to accuse Steve of *lying*. In fact, I'd like to hear more about it.


As I stated above, my anecdotal evidence was exactly that. I'm not
lying, but if anyone surfing the waves of their agenda wants to accuse
me of that, I shan't shed many tears. I've never been called a troll
before in 10+ of Usenet ramblings, so I guess my appreticeship is now
complete.

I've lived in both rural and city areas, so I don't think the lack of
squashed cats is limited to outlying regions. I've never lived in a
seriously 'inner city' area though.


OK, ok now I'm finally getting the feedback I was looking for. Let's cut out
all the irelevent junk about Greece and Australia and my question was...it just
seems (from reading the cat groups--I've never been there...that road kill
isn't the problem in the UK that it is here. Any idea why? Also, I am in 100%
agreement with both you and Cheryl that there *are* places left that cats can,
and should be able to go outdoors. Maybe not many, but that's why I *hate* to
see a poster berated for letting their cats out by someone who hasn't a clue
what the environment is.
But on the highway I drive to the city, the road is always littered with
roadkill. Both domestic animals and wildlife. There's even a Dept. of
Transportation truck who's job it is to pick up everything from dead cats to
dead deer off the road. (I always thought that an awful job. I bet he doesn't
get invited to the Middle School on career day)

Sherry

Sherry
  #452  
Old November 24th 03, 01:47 AM
Cheryl
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In om,
Steve G composed with style:

I also don't think those who live in such an area need to be
berated by someone who doesn't have a clue.


Can't work out whether this is an insult directed at me, or not.
Must
be all the beer cans I've been crushing against my forehead
recently.

No, it wasn't directed your way. I can't say that I've ever seen
you post vicious attacks anyway. And please don't get me wrong;
everyone has the right to say what they want to say. I'm not trying
to be Usenet Police or anything. lol My biggest problem is that
sometimes I butt in and defend people, or try to let people avoid a
possible attack, but that is just my nature. I'm trying not to do
that on Usenet so much but sometimes I just forget.



  #453  
Old November 24th 03, 01:47 AM
Cheryl
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In om,
Steve G composed with style:

I also don't think those who live in such an area need to be
berated by someone who doesn't have a clue.


Can't work out whether this is an insult directed at me, or not.
Must
be all the beer cans I've been crushing against my forehead
recently.

No, it wasn't directed your way. I can't say that I've ever seen
you post vicious attacks anyway. And please don't get me wrong;
everyone has the right to say what they want to say. I'm not trying
to be Usenet Police or anything. lol My biggest problem is that
sometimes I butt in and defend people, or try to let people avoid a
possible attack, but that is just my nature. I'm trying not to do
that on Usenet so much but sometimes I just forget.



  #454  
Old November 24th 03, 01:47 AM
Cheryl
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In om,
Steve G composed with style:

I also don't think those who live in such an area need to be
berated by someone who doesn't have a clue.


Can't work out whether this is an insult directed at me, or not.
Must
be all the beer cans I've been crushing against my forehead
recently.

No, it wasn't directed your way. I can't say that I've ever seen
you post vicious attacks anyway. And please don't get me wrong;
everyone has the right to say what they want to say. I'm not trying
to be Usenet Police or anything. lol My biggest problem is that
sometimes I butt in and defend people, or try to let people avoid a
possible attack, but that is just my nature. I'm trying not to do
that on Usenet so much but sometimes I just forget.



  #455  
Old November 24th 03, 04:10 PM
Steve G
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itty (Sherry ) wrote in message ...
(..)
seems (from reading the cat groups--I've never been there...that road kill
isn't the problem in the UK that it is here. Any idea why?


I'm not sure; however, there are marked differences in the way
suburban (and city) areas are laid out in the USA and US - at least
based on the areas I've experienced in both countries. For example,
the US seems to have far wider roads. The US is geared up as a
car-oriented society (pun intended); there are far fewer pedestrian
options. Roads in the US are often busier, and the traffic seems to be
on the roads more consistently. Street lighting in suburban areas in
the US seems a great deal worse than in the UK. Even the fact that
people have larger cars in the US could be a factor (larger blind
spots). Even the way people's land (gardens and such) are arranged
could be a factor.

All of these factors don't address any general sociocultural
differences in the way people think about animals in the two
countries. I don't know if there's any evidence for such differences.

It may also be that the risk in the US is often overstated, and
perhaps the risk in the UK underemphasised. Hard to tell, really.


Also, I am in 100%
agreement with both you and Cheryl that there *are* places left that cats
can, and should be able to go outdoors. Maybe not many,


Well, I tend to in principle favour the side of somewhat increased
risk with the tradeoff being a richer environment (for the cat).
However, there are certainly places where I'd consider the tradeoff to
be unacceptable, and would keep the cat indoors. In such cases I'd
consider it imperative to build an enriched indoor environment for the
captive.


(...)
But on the highway I drive to the city, the road is always littered with
roadkill. Both domestic animals and wildlife.


I cycle to work every day (in central NC). I see a 'significant'
amount of roadkill, but no cats as yet; the animals are usually deer,
groundhogs, and the occasional raccoon and squirrel. There are also
quite a few cats I see out of doors here, although these are mostly
away from the most busiest areas.


There's even a Dept. of
Transportation truck who's job it is to pick up everything from dead cats to
dead deer off the road. (I always thought that an awful job. I bet he doesn't
get invited to the Middle School on career day)


I dunno - maybe he can provide fresh venison steaks.

Steve.
  #456  
Old November 24th 03, 04:10 PM
Steve G
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itty (Sherry ) wrote in message ...
(..)
seems (from reading the cat groups--I've never been there...that road kill
isn't the problem in the UK that it is here. Any idea why?


I'm not sure; however, there are marked differences in the way
suburban (and city) areas are laid out in the USA and US - at least
based on the areas I've experienced in both countries. For example,
the US seems to have far wider roads. The US is geared up as a
car-oriented society (pun intended); there are far fewer pedestrian
options. Roads in the US are often busier, and the traffic seems to be
on the roads more consistently. Street lighting in suburban areas in
the US seems a great deal worse than in the UK. Even the fact that
people have larger cars in the US could be a factor (larger blind
spots). Even the way people's land (gardens and such) are arranged
could be a factor.

All of these factors don't address any general sociocultural
differences in the way people think about animals in the two
countries. I don't know if there's any evidence for such differences.

It may also be that the risk in the US is often overstated, and
perhaps the risk in the UK underemphasised. Hard to tell, really.


Also, I am in 100%
agreement with both you and Cheryl that there *are* places left that cats
can, and should be able to go outdoors. Maybe not many,


Well, I tend to in principle favour the side of somewhat increased
risk with the tradeoff being a richer environment (for the cat).
However, there are certainly places where I'd consider the tradeoff to
be unacceptable, and would keep the cat indoors. In such cases I'd
consider it imperative to build an enriched indoor environment for the
captive.


(...)
But on the highway I drive to the city, the road is always littered with
roadkill. Both domestic animals and wildlife.


I cycle to work every day (in central NC). I see a 'significant'
amount of roadkill, but no cats as yet; the animals are usually deer,
groundhogs, and the occasional raccoon and squirrel. There are also
quite a few cats I see out of doors here, although these are mostly
away from the most busiest areas.


There's even a Dept. of
Transportation truck who's job it is to pick up everything from dead cats to
dead deer off the road. (I always thought that an awful job. I bet he doesn't
get invited to the Middle School on career day)


I dunno - maybe he can provide fresh venison steaks.

Steve.
  #457  
Old November 24th 03, 04:10 PM
Steve G
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itty (Sherry ) wrote in message ...
(..)
seems (from reading the cat groups--I've never been there...that road kill
isn't the problem in the UK that it is here. Any idea why?


I'm not sure; however, there are marked differences in the way
suburban (and city) areas are laid out in the USA and US - at least
based on the areas I've experienced in both countries. For example,
the US seems to have far wider roads. The US is geared up as a
car-oriented society (pun intended); there are far fewer pedestrian
options. Roads in the US are often busier, and the traffic seems to be
on the roads more consistently. Street lighting in suburban areas in
the US seems a great deal worse than in the UK. Even the fact that
people have larger cars in the US could be a factor (larger blind
spots). Even the way people's land (gardens and such) are arranged
could be a factor.

All of these factors don't address any general sociocultural
differences in the way people think about animals in the two
countries. I don't know if there's any evidence for such differences.

It may also be that the risk in the US is often overstated, and
perhaps the risk in the UK underemphasised. Hard to tell, really.


Also, I am in 100%
agreement with both you and Cheryl that there *are* places left that cats
can, and should be able to go outdoors. Maybe not many,


Well, I tend to in principle favour the side of somewhat increased
risk with the tradeoff being a richer environment (for the cat).
However, there are certainly places where I'd consider the tradeoff to
be unacceptable, and would keep the cat indoors. In such cases I'd
consider it imperative to build an enriched indoor environment for the
captive.


(...)
But on the highway I drive to the city, the road is always littered with
roadkill. Both domestic animals and wildlife.


I cycle to work every day (in central NC). I see a 'significant'
amount of roadkill, but no cats as yet; the animals are usually deer,
groundhogs, and the occasional raccoon and squirrel. There are also
quite a few cats I see out of doors here, although these are mostly
away from the most busiest areas.


There's even a Dept. of
Transportation truck who's job it is to pick up everything from dead cats to
dead deer off the road. (I always thought that an awful job. I bet he doesn't
get invited to the Middle School on career day)


I dunno - maybe he can provide fresh venison steaks.

Steve.
  #458  
Old November 24th 03, 04:11 PM
Steve G
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"Cheryl" wrote in message ...
(...)

No, it wasn't directed your way. I can't say that I've ever seen
you post vicious attacks anyway.


I post viscous attacks sometime ... glutinuous fool!


And please don't get me wrong;
everyone has the right to say what they want to say.


And long may it be so!

Steve.
  #459  
Old November 24th 03, 04:11 PM
Steve G
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"Cheryl" wrote in message ...
(...)

No, it wasn't directed your way. I can't say that I've ever seen
you post vicious attacks anyway.


I post viscous attacks sometime ... glutinuous fool!


And please don't get me wrong;
everyone has the right to say what they want to say.


And long may it be so!

Steve.
  #460  
Old November 24th 03, 04:11 PM
Steve G
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"Cheryl" wrote in message ...
(...)

No, it wasn't directed your way. I can't say that I've ever seen
you post vicious attacks anyway.


I post viscous attacks sometime ... glutinuous fool!


And please don't get me wrong;
everyone has the right to say what they want to say.


And long may it be so!

Steve.
 




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