Call it what it is: killed NOT euthanized

"Meghan Noecker" wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:00:10 -0500, "Phil P."
wrote:


Maybe if everyone used the correct terms that describes exactly what it
is,
more people would be outraged and sickened enough to force legislation to
eliminate it -- like mandatory neuter before adoption or sale (health
permitting) and subsidize vets or give them a tax deduction for neutering
all
animals in their care regardless of the owners' consent or ability to
pay.

It would be great to get help with vet costs for altering pets, but no
vet would ever go along with mandatory altering without owners'
consent.

If mandatory neutering was the law, vets would have no choice.... (health
permitting).

If they altered a champion dog that was part of a breeding
program, there would be a major lawsuit.


Vets would be protected by the law.... Btw, breeders are not very high on my
list of priorities.... In fact, they're not even on it....

Phil

"Phil P." wrote in message
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"Meghan Noecker" wrote in message
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It would be great to get help with vet costs for altering pets, but no
vet would ever go along with mandatory altering without owners'
consent.

There are low income assistance programs available at some shelters, and
we've had some success in getting landlords to require spay/neuter instead
of declaw on resident cats.

Btw, I think most (if not all) large shelters DO alter before an animal is
made available for adoption, or at the very least before they go home. I
know a few middle-of-nowhere shelters that do this as well, even though the
animals have to be transported an hour each way to get the surgery done.
We're lucky enough to have a fantastic vet school in town, and some of the
students come in and even spay and neuter rats for us, now and then.

"Phil P." wrote in message
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"Meghan Noecker" wrote in message
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It would be great to get help with vet costs for altering pets, but no
vet would ever go along with mandatory altering without owners'
consent.

There are low income assistance programs available at some shelters, and
we've had some success in getting landlords to require spay/neuter instead
of declaw on resident cats.

Btw, I think most (if not all) large shelters DO alter before an animal is
made available for adoption, or at the very least before they go home. I
know a few middle-of-nowhere shelters that do this as well, even though the
animals have to be transported an hour each way to get the surgery done.
We're lucky enough to have a fantastic vet school in town, and some of the
students come in and even spay and neuter rats for us, now and then.

You go, girl! I am glad you are one of those in the trenches of our
public shelters. It's a tough tough job and certainly a thankless one.

I look forward to more postings from you.

Sharon Talbert
Friends of Campus Cats
www.campuscats.org

You go, girl! I am glad you are one of those in the trenches of our
public shelters. It's a tough tough job and certainly a thankless one.

I look forward to more postings from you.

Sharon Talbert
Friends of Campus Cats
www.campuscats.org

"Kalyahna" wrote in message
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"Phil P." wrote in message
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"Meghan Noecker" wrote in message
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It would be great to get help with vet costs for altering pets, but no
vet would ever go along with mandatory altering without owners'
consent.

There are low income assistance programs available at some shelters, and
we've had some success in getting landlords to require spay/neuter instead
of declaw on resident cats.

Before we finalize an adoption to renters, we check with the landlord to
make sure pets are allowed and if there are any conditions. We won't
approve an adoption if the cat must be declawed.

I've sent my declaw brochure to a few landlords who allowed only declawed
and neutered cats... After reading the brochure, a few have changed their
policies

http://maxshouse.com/facts_about_declawing.htm


http://maxshouse.com/Declaw_Brochure-2.pdf

Print the fronts (page 1), tumble the paper and print the backs. Trim 1/4
in. off the long ends (landscape) - Its a triple-fold brochure that fits
into #10 envelopes and plastic (credit card) application holders.




Btw, I think most (if not all) large shelters DO alter before an animal is
made available for adoption, or at the very least before they go home.

With early-age neutering becoming more popular with vets, kittens can now be
neutered by the time they're ready for adoption.

Phil

"Kalyahna" wrote in message
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"Phil P." wrote in message
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"Meghan Noecker" wrote in message
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It would be great to get help with vet costs for altering pets, but no
vet would ever go along with mandatory altering without owners'
consent.

There are low income assistance programs available at some shelters, and
we've had some success in getting landlords to require spay/neuter instead
of declaw on resident cats.

Before we finalize an adoption to renters, we check with the landlord to
make sure pets are allowed and if there are any conditions. We won't
approve an adoption if the cat must be declawed.

I've sent my declaw brochure to a few landlords who allowed only declawed
and neutered cats... After reading the brochure, a few have changed their
policies

http://maxshouse.com/facts_about_declawing.htm


http://maxshouse.com/Declaw_Brochure-2.pdf

Print the fronts (page 1), tumble the paper and print the backs. Trim 1/4
in. off the long ends (landscape) - Its a triple-fold brochure that fits
into #10 envelopes and plastic (credit card) application holders.




Btw, I think most (if not all) large shelters DO alter before an animal is
made available for adoption, or at the very least before they go home.

With early-age neutering becoming more popular with vets, kittens can now be
neutered by the time they're ready for adoption.

Phil

| Btw, I think most (if not all) large shelters DO alter before an animal is
| made available for adoption, or at the very least before they go home. I
| know a few middle-of-nowhere shelters that do this as well, even though
the
| animals have to be transported an hour each way to get the surgery done.
| We're lucky enough to have a fantastic vet school in town, and some of the
| students come in and even spay and neuter rats for us, now and then.
|


When I got our new cat at the shelter I was surprised to learn that the cats
available were injected and wormed, yes, but only the males were neutered.
Females and males were the same price though. Strange isn't it?


Carola

| Btw, I think most (if not all) large shelters DO alter before an animal is
| made available for adoption, or at the very least before they go home. I
| know a few middle-of-nowhere shelters that do this as well, even though
the
| animals have to be transported an hour each way to get the surgery done.
| We're lucky enough to have a fantastic vet school in town, and some of the
| students come in and even spay and neuter rats for us, now and then.
|


When I got our new cat at the shelter I was surprised to learn that the cats
available were injected and wormed, yes, but only the males were neutered.
Females and males were the same price though. Strange isn't it?


Carola

I know the non profit no kill shelters will spay or neuter the animal
before adoption if possible, if not, then you can bring the animal in
at a later time and have them altered for no additional adoption fee.
I believe that our local Humane Society has the same policy. A friend
of mine adopted from there and brought her cat back to be spayed.


"M.C. Mullen" wrote in message ...
| Btw, I think most (if not all) large shelters DO alter before an animal is
| made available for adoption, or at the very least before they go home. I
| know a few middle-of-nowhere shelters that do this as well, even though
the
| animals have to be transported an hour each way to get the surgery done.
| We're lucky enough to have a fantastic vet school in town, and some of the
| students come in and even spay and neuter rats for us, now and then.
|


When I got our new cat at the shelter I was surprised to learn that the cats
available were injected and wormed, yes, but only the males were neutered.
Females and males were the same price though. Strange isn't it?


Carola