Liz's Food recommendations

In article ,
(GAUBSTER2) wrote:

The Science Diet products are 21-33% *LOWER* in carbs than Felidae and
Wellness dry products.

No they're not! You're comparing the SD *kitten* food to the W & F.

Go back and reread Steve's post. Wellness and Felidae are kitten foods. He
is
comparing "like products"...going for a better comparison.

The W & F are *not* exclusive kitten foods, despite your
attempted slight of hand.

YES, THEY ARE! A food that is "all life stages" is a growth food...READ
KITTEN
FOOD! We're talking nutrients here, please try to keep up.

We're NOT talking nutrients here, please DO try to keep up.

You claim a product that passes the AAFCO feed trial for growth has a
different nutrient profile than a product that passes the AAFCO feed
trial for maintenance.

AS STEVE HAS POSTED, there is no consideration of the nutrient profile
in a feed trial. The ONLY consideration is the biochemical and
physiologic effect on the test animals.

Wellness and Felidae FAIL to cause ANEMIA and STUNTING in kittens (among
other blood morphology and chemistry requirements). That is the ONLY
extrapolation to be made from the label claim.

-Alison in OH

Ummmm... anybody owning an overweight housecat? That would be an
case of excessive nutrition, no? ;-)

The focus was on calcium and phosphorus and he came up with that
comment. Was that being malicious or what?

Ummmm... anybody owning an overweight housecat? That would be an
case of excessive nutrition, no? ;-)

The focus was on calcium and phosphorus and he came up with that
comment. Was that being malicious or what?

GAUBSTER2 wrote:

The Science Diet products are 21-33% *LOWER* in carbs than Felidae and
Wellness dry products.

No they're not! You're comparing the SD *kitten* food to the W & F.


Go back and reread Steve's post. Wellness and Felidae are kitten foods. He is
comparing "like products"...going for a better comparison.


The W & F are *not* exclusive kitten foods, despite your
attempted slight of hand.


YES, THEY ARE! A food that is "all life stages" is a growth food...READ KITTEN
FOOD! We're talking nutrients here, please try to keep up.



Go wank yourself. There's obviously a *big* difference of opinion here,
I don't consider "all life stages" to be kitten food, *exclusively*
kitten foods have more protein, therefore they are not comparable.
Period. Now, go back and re-read my first sentence.

GAUBSTER2 wrote:

The Science Diet products are 21-33% *LOWER* in carbs than Felidae and
Wellness dry products.

No they're not! You're comparing the SD *kitten* food to the W & F.


Go back and reread Steve's post. Wellness and Felidae are kitten foods. He is
comparing "like products"...going for a better comparison.


The W & F are *not* exclusive kitten foods, despite your
attempted slight of hand.


YES, THEY ARE! A food that is "all life stages" is a growth food...READ KITTEN
FOOD! We're talking nutrients here, please try to keep up.



Go wank yourself. There's obviously a *big* difference of opinion here,
I don't consider "all life stages" to be kitten food, *exclusively*
kitten foods have more protein, therefore they are not comparable.
Period. Now, go back and re-read my first sentence.

GAUBSTER2 wrote:

If Hills can keep the phosphorus down and use say,
chicken meal at the top of the ingredient list instead of corn meal, I
might try it again.


LOL! Hill's products are the only foods that ALWAYS keep the phosphorus down.
Again, Cheryl, you are ONLY looking at the ingredient list. Why?? Surely by
now, you know the games that are played w/ ingredient lists. But I guess
emotionalism is all that matters for you and not efficacy or nutrition. You're
more worried about what words on a piece of paper say than the nutrient levels
going into your cats (managing risk factors).


Some of us look at *both*, and some of us *have* to look at ingredients
first and foremost or our pets suffer, dumb ass. Why don't *you* try
reading and you'd know that, especially of Cheryl since she's stated her
cat's problem about umpteen billion times.

GAUBSTER2 wrote:

If Hills can keep the phosphorus down and use say,
chicken meal at the top of the ingredient list instead of corn meal, I
might try it again.


LOL! Hill's products are the only foods that ALWAYS keep the phosphorus down.
Again, Cheryl, you are ONLY looking at the ingredient list. Why?? Surely by
now, you know the games that are played w/ ingredient lists. But I guess
emotionalism is all that matters for you and not efficacy or nutrition. You're
more worried about what words on a piece of paper say than the nutrient levels
going into your cats (managing risk factors).


Some of us look at *both*, and some of us *have* to look at ingredients
first and foremost or our pets suffer, dumb ass. Why don't *you* try
reading and you'd know that, especially of Cheryl since she's stated her
cat's problem about umpteen billion times.

Gaubster2 wrote:
Again, Cheryl, you are ONLY looking at
the ingredient list. Why??

Hello??? Because, Einstein, her cat has IBD. Everyone on the group knows
this and the only excuse you have for not knowing this is your pure,
unfettered inability to comprehend the simplest things. If the cat can't
tolerate the ingredients it can't eat the food. Everything else is
secondary.

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

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"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray

Gaubster2 wrote:
Again, Cheryl, you are ONLY looking at
the ingredient list. Why??

Hello??? Because, Einstein, her cat has IBD. Everyone on the group knows
this and the only excuse you have for not knowing this is your pure,
unfettered inability to comprehend the simplest things. If the cat can't
tolerate the ingredients it can't eat the food. Everything else is
secondary.

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray

In ,
composed with style:
Gaubster2 wrote:
Again, Cheryl, you are ONLY looking at
the ingredient list. Why??

Hello??? Because, Einstein, her cat has IBD. Everyone on the group
knows this and the only excuse you have for not knowing this is
your pure, unfettered inability to comprehend the simplest things.
If the cat can't tolerate the ingredients it can't eat the food.
Everything else is secondary.

Can't you just picture ol' Gauby sitting there banging away at the
keyboard, blood vessels on his noggin ready to explode? lol