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Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick
Sorry about this. My guess is the food. Let us know.
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Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:19:48 -0600, MLB wrote:
John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:12:13 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:12:29 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:27:41 -0700, cl wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests. The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix Here is the problem in detail. Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus. Anyone have an idea? If you have a dishwasher all of their food and water bowls should be washed in it immediately and done regularly until this goes away. If you do not have a dishwaster you should use paper food and water bowls in the mean time. Also the contents of their litter boxes should be dumped and replaced now - one cat might have infected the others. Did you just change or just start using a new brand or bag of food? I presume that they all eat different food since they are different ages? Or do they all eat the same food? Is it canned food, dry or both? It sounds like some widespread contaminated has occurred. Have you cleaned a floor, mopped, or used a different cleaning product lately? Something has caused this since all fives cats have stopped eating at the same time. It really sounds like poisoning. The blood test is in and the only problem is "Moderately toxic neutrophyls with no neutrophilia suggests acute tissue demand for neutrophils". which indicates some kind of infection. I could have unknowingly tracked in a bacteria, but how do all the cats get sick at once? The big question right now is how are they doing? I do not have any idea how that could happen and it is very strange that they all got sick at the same time. I would think it would have to be airborne or fed the same thing. Purrs for you and the cats that the mystery can be solved. Best wishes. MLB Airborne is possible. We have tomcats in the neighborhood outside. But at no time were they ever fed the same thing. I know you dismissed the possibility of carbon monoxide, but it might be a good idea to have your heating/ventilation system checked. Do you remember hearing the old stories of "canaries in the coal mine"? Removing the cats to another environment would have cleared it from their bodies. And yes -- how are they doing? MLB They seem to mbe getting a bit better. The youngest first. The three youngest all had bowel movements, one normal. The two oldest ones are not doing well. Off to vet #2 in 25 minutes. Matthew's point about looking outside8de made me wonder if it were possible one of those trucks that are used by carpet cleaners could have been working near where the fumes could seep into the house? I remember one time where I worked, trucks would sometimes park in the back alley and leave their engines running. The exhaust fumes would then get into the ventilation system and come into our building . We were on the 4th floor and fumes do rise. Trucks in the alley were eventually not permitted in the alley. Sending purrs that all kitties will recover and that you can figure this out == it must be hard on you. Best wishes. MLB About the time this started there were pavers repang 2 nearby driveways but that would not account for the bacteria. The vet gave me antibiotics in pill form that Percy won't vomit out. He hates the liquid. |
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Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick
John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:19:48 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:12:13 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:12:29 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:27:41 -0700, cl wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests. The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix Here is the problem in detail. Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus. Anyone have an idea? If you have a dishwasher all of their food and water bowls should be washed in it immediately and done regularly until this goes away. If you do not have a dishwaster you should use paper food and water bowls in the mean time. Also the contents of their litter boxes should be dumped and replaced now - one cat might have infected the others. Did you just change or just start using a new brand or bag of food? I presume that they all eat different food since they are different ages? Or do they all eat the same food? Is it canned food, dry or both? It sounds like some widespread contaminated has occurred. Have you cleaned a floor, mopped, or used a different cleaning product lately? Something has caused this since all fives cats have stopped eating at the same time. It really sounds like poisoning. The blood test is in and the only problem is "Moderately toxic neutrophyls with no neutrophilia suggests acute tissue demand for neutrophils". which indicates some kind of infection. I could have unknowingly tracked in a bacteria, but how do all the cats get sick at once? The big question right now is how are they doing? I do not have any idea how that could happen and it is very strange that they all got sick at the same time. I would think it would have to be airborne or fed the same thing. Purrs for you and the cats that the mystery can be solved. Best wishes. MLB Airborne is possible. We have tomcats in the neighborhood outside. But at no time were they ever fed the same thing. I know you dismissed the possibility of carbon monoxide, but it might be a good idea to have your heating/ventilation system checked. Do you remember hearing the old stories of "canaries in the coal mine"? Removing the cats to another environment would have cleared it from their bodies. And yes -- how are they doing? MLB They seem to mbe getting a bit better. The youngest first. The three youngest all had bowel movements, one normal. The two oldest ones are not doing well. Off to vet #2 in 25 minutes. Matthew's point about looking outside8de made me wonder if it were possible one of those trucks that are used by carpet cleaners could have been working near where the fumes could seep into the house? I remember one time where I worked, trucks would sometimes park in the back alley and leave their engines running. The exhaust fumes would then get into the ventilation system and come into our building . We were on the 4th floor and fumes do rise. Trucks in the alley were eventually not permitted in the alley. Sending purrs that all kitties will recover and that you can figure this out == it must be hard on you. Best wishes. MLB About the time this started there were pavers repang 2 nearby driveways but that would not account for the bacteria. The vet gave me antibiotics in pill form that Percy won't vomit out. He hates the liquid. Do you know if they had a cement mixer running, or a truck idling? Some of the big trucks are left idling because it is cheaper than re-starting them. (Just trying to consider another possibility). Best wishes. MLB |
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Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick
John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:19:48 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:12:13 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:12:29 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:27:41 -0700, cl wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests. The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix Here is the problem in detail. Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus. Anyone have an idea? If you have a dishwasher all of their food and water bowls should be washed in it immediately and done regularly until this goes away. If you do not have a dishwaster you should use paper food and water bowls in the mean time. Also the contents of their litter boxes should be dumped and replaced now - one cat might have infected the others. Did you just change or just start using a new brand or bag of food? I presume that they all eat different food since they are different ages? Or do they all eat the same food? Is it canned food, dry or both? It sounds like some widespread contaminated has occurred. Have you cleaned a floor, mopped, or used a different cleaning product lately? Something has caused this since all fives cats have stopped eating at the same time. It really sounds like poisoning. The blood test is in and the only problem is "Moderately toxic neutrophyls with no neutrophilia suggests acute tissue demand for neutrophils". which indicates some kind of infection. I could have unknowingly tracked in a bacteria, but how do all the cats get sick at once? The big question right now is how are they doing? I do not have any idea how that could happen and it is very strange that they all got sick at the same time. I would think it would have to be airborne or fed the same thing. Purrs for you and the cats that the mystery can be solved. Best wishes. MLB Airborne is possible. We have tomcats in the neighborhood outside. But at no time were they ever fed the same thing. I know you dismissed the possibility of carbon monoxide, but it might be a good idea to have your heating/ventilation system checked. Do you remember hearing the old stories of "canaries in the coal mine"? Removing the cats to another environment would have cleared it from their bodies. And yes -- how are they doing? MLB They seem to mbe getting a bit better. The youngest first. The three youngest all had bowel movements, one normal. The two oldest ones are not doing well. Off to vet #2 in 25 minutes. Matthew's point about looking outside8de made me wonder if it were possible one of those trucks that are used by carpet cleaners could have been working near where the fumes could seep into the house? I remember one time where I worked, trucks would sometimes park in the back alley and leave their engines running. The exhaust fumes would then get into the ventilation system and come into our building . We were on the 4th floor and fumes do rise. Trucks in the alley were eventually not permitted in the alley. Sending purrs that all kitties will recover and that you can figure this out == it must be hard on you. Best wishes. MLB About the time this started there were pavers repang 2 nearby driveways but that would not account for the bacteria. The vet gave me antibiotics in pill form that Percy won't vomit out. He hates the liquid. Do you know if they had a cement mixer running or a truck idling nearby? (just trying to cover all possibilities). Perhaps you could mix a little syrup with the liquid meds to improve the taste. Just in case the pill doesn't work either.) Remembering that years ago a man in our condo was working on his car in the carport. He had left the car running and the resulting fumes made him sick? (I have a "thing" about fumes, as you can tell -- long, dull story). MLB |
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Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:15:45 -0600, MLB wrote:
John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:19:48 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:12:13 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:12:29 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:27:41 -0700, cl wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests. The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix Here is the problem in detail. Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus. Anyone have an idea? If you have a dishwasher all of their food and water bowls should be washed in it immediately and done regularly until this goes away. If you do not have a dishwaster you should use paper food and water bowls in the mean time. Also the contents of their litter boxes should be dumped and replaced now - one cat might have infected the others. Did you just change or just start using a new brand or bag of food? I presume that they all eat different food since they are different ages? Or do they all eat the same food? Is it canned food, dry or both? It sounds like some widespread contaminated has occurred. Have you cleaned a floor, mopped, or used a different cleaning product lately? Something has caused this since all fives cats have stopped eating at the same time. It really sounds like poisoning. The blood test is in and the only problem is "Moderately toxic neutrophyls with no neutrophilia suggests acute tissue demand for neutrophils". which indicates some kind of infection. I could have unknowingly tracked in a bacteria, but how do all the cats get sick at once? The big question right now is how are they doing? I do not have any idea how that could happen and it is very strange that they all got sick at the same time. I would think it would have to be airborne or fed the same thing. Purrs for you and the cats that the mystery can be solved. Best wishes. MLB Airborne is possible. We have tomcats in the neighborhood outside. But at no time were they ever fed the same thing. I know you dismissed the possibility of carbon monoxide, but it might be a good idea to have your heating/ventilation system checked. Do you remember hearing the old stories of "canaries in the coal mine"? Removing the cats to another environment would have cleared it from their bodies. And yes -- how are they doing? MLB They seem to mbe getting a bit better. The youngest first. The three youngest all had bowel movements, one normal. The two oldest ones are not doing well. Off to vet #2 in 25 minutes. Matthew's point about looking outside8de made me wonder if it were possible one of those trucks that are used by carpet cleaners could have been working near where the fumes could seep into the house? I remember one time where I worked, trucks would sometimes park in the back alley and leave their engines running. The exhaust fumes would then get into the ventilation system and come into our building . We were on the 4th floor and fumes do rise. Trucks in the alley were eventually not permitted in the alley. Sending purrs that all kitties will recover and that you can figure this out == it must be hard on you. Best wishes. MLB About the time this started there were pavers repang 2 nearby driveways but that would not account for the bacteria. The vet gave me antibiotics in pill form that Percy won't vomit out. He hates the liquid. Do you know if they had a cement mixer running or a truck idling nearby? (just trying to cover all possibilities). Perhaps you could mix a little syrup with the liquid meds to improve the taste. Just in case the pill doesn't work either.) Remembering that years ago a man in our condo was working on his car in the carport. He had left the car running and the resulting fumes made him sick? (I have a "thing" about fumes, as you can tell -- long, dull story). MLB They were idling for hours, but this doesn't account for the blood readings. One cat refused the oral meds and had to be given shots of tribissen. She is recovering faster than the two on metronidazole. |
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Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick
John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:15:45 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:19:48 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:12:13 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:12:29 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:27:41 -0700, cl wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests. The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix Here is the problem in detail. Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus. Anyone have an idea? If you have a dishwasher all of their food and water bowls should be washed in it immediately and done regularly until this goes away. If you do not have a dishwaster you should use paper food and water bowls in the mean time. Also the contents of their litter boxes should be dumped and replaced now - one cat might have infected the others. Did you just change or just start using a new brand or bag of food? I presume that they all eat different food since they are different ages? Or do they all eat the same food? Is it canned food, dry or both? It sounds like some widespread contaminated has occurred. Have you cleaned a floor, mopped, or used a different cleaning product lately? Something has caused this since all fives cats have stopped eating at the same time. It really sounds like poisoning. The blood test is in and the only problem is "Moderately toxic neutrophyls with no neutrophilia suggests acute tissue demand for neutrophils". which indicates some kind of infection. I could have unknowingly tracked in a bacteria, but how do all the cats get sick at once? The big question right now is how are they doing? I do not have any idea how that could happen and it is very strange that they all got sick at the same time. I would think it would have to be airborne or fed the same thing. Purrs for you and the cats that the mystery can be solved. Best wishes. MLB Airborne is possible. We have tomcats in the neighborhood outside. But at no time were they ever fed the same thing. I know you dismissed the possibility of carbon monoxide, but it might be a good idea to have your heating/ventilation system checked. Do you remember hearing the old stories of "canaries in the coal mine"? Removing the cats to another environment would have cleared it from their bodies. And yes -- how are they doing? MLB They seem to mbe getting a bit better. The youngest first. The three youngest all had bowel movements, one normal. The two oldest ones are not doing well. Off to vet #2 in 25 minutes. Matthew's point about looking outside8de made me wonder if it were possible one of those trucks that are used by carpet cleaners could have been working near where the fumes could seep into the house? I remember one time where I worked, trucks would sometimes park in the back alley and leave their engines running. The exhaust fumes would then get into the ventilation system and come into our building . We were on the 4th floor and fumes do rise. Trucks in the alley were eventually not permitted in the alley. Sending purrs that all kitties will recover and that you can figure this out == it must be hard on you. Best wishes. MLB About the time this started there were pavers repang 2 nearby driveways but that would not account for the bacteria. The vet gave me antibiotics in pill form that Percy won't vomit out. He hates the liquid. Do you know if they had a cement mixer running or a truck idling nearby? (just trying to cover all possibilities). Perhaps you could mix a little syrup with the liquid meds to improve the taste. Just in case the pill doesn't work either.) Remembering that years ago a man in our condo was working on his car in the carport. He had left the car running and the resulting fumes made him sick? (I have a "thing" about fumes, as you can tell -- long, dull story). MLB They were idling for hours, but this doesn't account for the blood readings. One cat refused the oral meds and had to be given shots of tribissen. She is recovering faster than the two on metronidazole. Well, if the body gets weakened for any reason, other things can take hold. Still hoping this mystery can be solved, but not all mysteries are . Best wishes. MLB |
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MLB wrote:
John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:15:45 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:19:48 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:12:13 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:12:29 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:27:41 -0700, cl wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests. The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix Here is the problem in detail. Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus. Anyone have an idea? If you have a dishwasher all of their food and water bowls should be washed in it immediately and done regularly until this goes away. If you do not have a dishwaster you should use paper food and water bowls in the mean time. Also the contents of their litter boxes should be dumped and replaced now - one cat might have infected the others. Did you just change or just start using a new brand or bag of food? I presume that they all eat different food since they are different ages? Or do they all eat the same food? Is it canned food, dry or both? It sounds like some widespread contaminated has occurred. Have you cleaned a floor, mopped, or used a different cleaning product lately? Something has caused this since all fives cats have stopped eating at the same time. It really sounds like poisoning. The blood test is in and the only problem is "Moderately toxic neutrophyls with no neutrophilia suggests acute tissue demand for neutrophils". which indicates some kind of infection. I could have unknowingly tracked in a bacteria, but how do all the cats get sick at once? The big question right now is how are they doing? I do not have any idea how that could happen and it is very strange that they all got sick at the same time. I would think it would have to be airborne or fed the same thing. Purrs for you and the cats that the mystery can be solved. Best wishes. MLB Airborne is possible. We have tomcats in the neighborhood outside. But at no time were they ever fed the same thing. I know you dismissed the possibility of carbon monoxide, but it might be a good idea to have your heating/ventilation system checked. Do you remember hearing the old stories of "canaries in the coal mine"? Removing the cats to another environment would have cleared it from their bodies. And yes -- how are they doing? MLB They seem to mbe getting a bit better. The youngest first. The three youngest all had bowel movements, one normal. The two oldest ones are not doing well. Off to vet #2 in 25 minutes. Matthew's point about looking outside8de made me wonder if it were possible one of those trucks that are used by carpet cleaners could have been working near where the fumes could seep into the house? I remember one time where I worked, trucks would sometimes park in the back alley and leave their engines running. The exhaust fumes would then get into the ventilation system and come into our building . We were on the 4th floor and fumes do rise. Trucks in the alley were eventually not permitted in the alley. Sending purrs that all kitties will recover and that you can figure this out == it must be hard on you. Best wishes. MLB About the time this started there were pavers repang 2 nearby driveways but that would not account for the bacteria. The vet gave me antibiotics in pill form that Percy won't vomit out. He hates the liquid. Do you know if they had a cement mixer running or a truck idling nearby? (just trying to cover all possibilities). Perhaps you could mix a little syrup with the liquid meds to improve the taste. Just in case the pill doesn't work either.) Remembering that years ago a man in our condo was working on his car in the carport. He had left the car running and the resulting fumes made him sick? (I have a "thing" about fumes, as you can tell -- long, dull story). MLB They were idling for hours, but this doesn't account for the blood readings. One cat refused the oral meds and had to be given shots of tribissen. She is recovering faster than the two on metronidazole. Well, if the body gets weakened for any reason, other things can take hold. Still hoping this mystery can be solved, but not all mysteries are . Best wishes. MLB I was just scooping TuTu's litter box. This made me wonder what kind of litter do you use? Any change there? |
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:30:06 -0600, MLB wrote:
MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:15:45 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:19:48 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:12:13 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:12:29 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:27:41 -0700, cl wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests. The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix Here is the problem in detail. Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus. Anyone have an idea? If you have a dishwasher all of their food and water bowls should be washed in it immediately and done regularly until this goes away. If you do not have a dishwaster you should use paper food and water bowls in the mean time. Also the contents of their litter boxes should be dumped and replaced now - one cat might have infected the others. Did you just change or just start using a new brand or bag of food? I presume that they all eat different food since they are different ages? Or do they all eat the same food? Is it canned food, dry or both? It sounds like some widespread contaminated has occurred. Have you cleaned a floor, mopped, or used a different cleaning product lately? Something has caused this since all fives cats have stopped eating at the same time. It really sounds like poisoning. The blood test is in and the only problem is "Moderately toxic neutrophyls with no neutrophilia suggests acute tissue demand for neutrophils". which indicates some kind of infection. I could have unknowingly tracked in a bacteria, but how do all the cats get sick at once? The big question right now is how are they doing? I do not have any idea how that could happen and it is very strange that they all got sick at the same time. I would think it would have to be airborne or fed the same thing. Purrs for you and the cats that the mystery can be solved. Best wishes. MLB Airborne is possible. We have tomcats in the neighborhood outside. But at no time were they ever fed the same thing. I know you dismissed the possibility of carbon monoxide, but it might be a good idea to have your heating/ventilation system checked. Do you remember hearing the old stories of "canaries in the coal mine"? Removing the cats to another environment would have cleared it from their bodies. And yes -- how are they doing? MLB They seem to mbe getting a bit better. The youngest first. The three youngest all had bowel movements, one normal. The two oldest ones are not doing well. Off to vet #2 in 25 minutes. Matthew's point about looking outside8de made me wonder if it were possible one of those trucks that are used by carpet cleaners could have been working near where the fumes could seep into the house? I remember one time where I worked, trucks would sometimes park in the back alley and leave their engines running. The exhaust fumes would then get into the ventilation system and come into our building . We were on the 4th floor and fumes do rise. Trucks in the alley were eventually not permitted in the alley. Sending purrs that all kitties will recover and that you can figure this out == it must be hard on you. Best wishes. MLB About the time this started there were pavers repang 2 nearby driveways but that would not account for the bacteria. The vet gave me antibiotics in pill form that Percy won't vomit out. He hates the liquid. Do you know if they had a cement mixer running or a truck idling nearby? (just trying to cover all possibilities). Perhaps you could mix a little syrup with the liquid meds to improve the taste. Just in case the pill doesn't work either.) Remembering that years ago a man in our condo was working on his car in the carport. He had left the car running and the resulting fumes made him sick? (I have a "thing" about fumes, as you can tell -- long, dull story). MLB They were idling for hours, but this doesn't account for the blood readings. One cat refused the oral meds and had to be given shots of tribissen. She is recovering faster than the two on metronidazole. Well, if the body gets weakened for any reason, other things can take hold. Still hoping this mystery can be solved, but not all mysteries are . Best wishes. MLB I was just scooping TuTu's litter box. This made me wonder what kind of litter do you use? Any change there? I have always used wood pellets. It's compressed sawdust with no addities. The trees are pine from the Interior of this Province. No change in the litter. To compress the sawdust they use heat and pressure so no bacteria or mold can survive. This is certainly a mystery, unless it is an airborne disease from outside that is unique to me. I DO have tomcats wandering out there. From now on I will only give the cats boiled water. The water has no chemical or mineral contaminants, and boiling will rule out even the toughest stuff that survives treatment. There is nothing on my street that could contaminate my house water. |
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John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:30:06 -0600, MLB wrote: MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:15:45 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:19:48 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:12:13 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:12:29 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:27:41 -0700, cl wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests. The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix Here is the problem in detail. Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus. Anyone have an idea? If you have a dishwasher all of their food and water bowls should be washed in it immediately and done regularly until this goes away. If you do not have a dishwaster you should use paper food and water bowls in the mean time. Also the contents of their litter boxes should be dumped and replaced now - one cat might have infected the others. Did you just change or just start using a new brand or bag of food? I presume that they all eat different food since they are different ages? Or do they all eat the same food? Is it canned food, dry or both? It sounds like some widespread contaminated has occurred. Have you cleaned a floor, mopped, or used a different cleaning product lately? Something has caused this since all fives cats have stopped eating at the same time. It really sounds like poisoning. The blood test is in and the only problem is "Moderately toxic neutrophyls with no neutrophilia suggests acute tissue demand for neutrophils". which indicates some kind of infection. I could have unknowingly tracked in a bacteria, but how do all the cats get sick at once? The big question right now is how are they doing? I do not have any idea how that could happen and it is very strange that they all got sick at the same time. I would think it would have to be airborne or fed the same thing. Purrs for you and the cats that the mystery can be solved. Best wishes. MLB Airborne is possible. We have tomcats in the neighborhood outside. But at no time were they ever fed the same thing. I know you dismissed the possibility of carbon monoxide, but it might be a good idea to have your heating/ventilation system checked. Do you remember hearing the old stories of "canaries in the coal mine"? Removing the cats to another environment would have cleared it from their bodies. And yes -- how are they doing? MLB They seem to mbe getting a bit better. The youngest first. The three youngest all had bowel movements, one normal. The two oldest ones are not doing well. Off to vet #2 in 25 minutes. Matthew's point about looking outside8de made me wonder if it were possible one of those trucks that are used by carpet cleaners could have been working near where the fumes could seep into the house? I remember one time where I worked, trucks would sometimes park in the back alley and leave their engines running. The exhaust fumes would then get into the ventilation system and come into our building . We were on the 4th floor and fumes do rise. Trucks in the alley were eventually not permitted in the alley. Sending purrs that all kitties will recover and that you can figure this out == it must be hard on you. Best wishes. MLB About the time this started there were pavers repang 2 nearby driveways but that would not account for the bacteria. The vet gave me antibiotics in pill form that Percy won't vomit out. He hates the liquid. Do you know if they had a cement mixer running or a truck idling nearby? (just trying to cover all possibilities). Perhaps you could mix a little syrup with the liquid meds to improve the taste. Just in case the pill doesn't work either.) Remembering that years ago a man in our condo was working on his car in the carport. He had left the car running and the resulting fumes made him sick? (I have a "thing" about fumes, as you can tell -- long, dull story). MLB They were idling for hours, but this doesn't account for the blood readings. One cat refused the oral meds and had to be given shots of tribissen. She is recovering faster than the two on metronidazole. Well, if the body gets weakened for any reason, other things can take hold. Still hoping this mystery can be solved, but not all mysteries are . Best wishes. MLB I was just scooping TuTu's litter box. This made me wonder what kind of litter do you use? Any change there? I have always used wood pellets. It's compressed sawdust with no addities. The trees are pine from the Interior of this Province. No change in the litter. To compress the sawdust they use heat and pressure so no bacteria or mold can survive. This is certainly a mystery, unless it is an airborne disease from outside that is unique to me. I DO have tomcats wandering out there. From now on I will only give the cats boiled water. The water has no chemical or mineral contaminants, and boiling will rule out even the toughest stuff that survives treatment. There is nothing on my street that could contaminate my house water. Another: I recently purchased a well advertised shower cleaner. When I went to use it, I got out my trusty magnifying glass to read the instructions. It also said "do not use around children or pets". Guess I'll stick to vinegar SOLUTION. mlb |
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Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:36:50 -0600, MLB wrote:
John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:30:06 -0600, MLB wrote: MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:15:45 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:19:48 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:12:13 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:12:29 -0600, MLB wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:27:41 -0700, cl wrote: John Ross Mc Master wrote: They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests. The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix Here is the problem in detail. Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus. Anyone have an idea? If you have a dishwasher all of their food and water bowls should be washed in it immediately and done regularly until this goes away. If you do not have a dishwaster you should use paper food and water bowls in the mean time. Also the contents of their litter boxes should be dumped and replaced now - one cat might have infected the others. Did you just change or just start using a new brand or bag of food? I presume that they all eat different food since they are different ages? Or do they all eat the same food? Is it canned food, dry or both? It sounds like some widespread contaminated has occurred. Have you cleaned a floor, mopped, or used a different cleaning product lately? Something has caused this since all fives cats have stopped eating at the same time. It really sounds like poisoning. The blood test is in and the only problem is "Moderately toxic neutrophyls with no neutrophilia suggests acute tissue demand for neutrophils". which indicates some kind of infection. I could have unknowingly tracked in a bacteria, but how do all the cats get sick at once? The big question right now is how are they doing? I do not have any idea how that could happen and it is very strange that they all got sick at the same time. I would think it would have to be airborne or fed the same thing. Purrs for you and the cats that the mystery can be solved. Best wishes. MLB Airborne is possible. We have tomcats in the neighborhood outside. But at no time were they ever fed the same thing. I know you dismissed the possibility of carbon monoxide, but it might be a good idea to have your heating/ventilation system checked. Do you remember hearing the old stories of "canaries in the coal mine"? Removing the cats to another environment would have cleared it from their bodies. And yes -- how are they doing? MLB They seem to mbe getting a bit better. The youngest first. The three youngest all had bowel movements, one normal. The two oldest ones are not doing well. Off to vet #2 in 25 minutes. Matthew's point about looking outside8de made me wonder if it were possible one of those trucks that are used by carpet cleaners could have been working near where the fumes could seep into the house? I remember one time where I worked, trucks would sometimes park in the back alley and leave their engines running. The exhaust fumes would then get into the ventilation system and come into our building . We were on the 4th floor and fumes do rise. Trucks in the alley were eventually not permitted in the alley. Sending purrs that all kitties will recover and that you can figure this out == it must be hard on you. Best wishes. MLB About the time this started there were pavers repang 2 nearby driveways but that would not account for the bacteria. The vet gave me antibiotics in pill form that Percy won't vomit out. He hates the liquid. Do you know if they had a cement mixer running or a truck idling nearby? (just trying to cover all possibilities). Perhaps you could mix a little syrup with the liquid meds to improve the taste. Just in case the pill doesn't work either.) Remembering that years ago a man in our condo was working on his car in the carport. He had left the car running and the resulting fumes made him sick? (I have a "thing" about fumes, as you can tell -- long, dull story). MLB They were idling for hours, but this doesn't account for the blood readings. One cat refused the oral meds and had to be given shots of tribissen. She is recovering faster than the two on metronidazole. Well, if the body gets weakened for any reason, other things can take hold. Still hoping this mystery can be solved, but not all mysteries are . Best wishes. MLB I was just scooping TuTu's litter box. This made me wonder what kind of litter do you use? Any change there? I have always used wood pellets. It's compressed sawdust with no addities. The trees are pine from the Interior of this Province. No change in the litter. To compress the sawdust they use heat and pressure so no bacteria or mold can survive. This is certainly a mystery, unless it is an airborne disease from outside that is unique to me. I DO have tomcats wandering out there. From now on I will only give the cats boiled water. The water has no chemical or mineral contaminants, and boiling will rule out even the toughest stuff that survives treatment. There is nothing on my street that could contaminate my house water. Another: I recently purchased a well advertised shower cleaner. When I went to use it, I got out my trusty magnifying glass to read the instructions. It also said "do not use around children or pets". Guess I'll stick to vinegar SOLUTION. mlb Ther only cleaner I ever use is bleach. I don't buy the millions of products everyone else is conned into getting. Also the toilet lid is always down so they never drink from there. |
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