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Old May 17th 05, 03:22 AM
ElvisRocks
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Hi all - I am getting two more kittens (Cali & Randi are fine now so now I'm
able to add to my family) from the same shelter I got Cali, but they are in
foster care - about 3 months old - two boys. They are not neutered yet;
what is the general age they do this now? When I got Randi he was done at 9
weeks before I got him. I'm getting them the end of the week. One is a
longhair gray and the other is black & white.
They're so cute - both males. Carol



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Old May 17th 05, 04:34 AM
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"ElvisRocks" wrote in message
...
Hi all - I am getting two more kittens (Cali & Randi are fine now so now

I'm
able to add to my family) from the same shelter I got Cali, but they are

in
foster care - about 3 months old - two boys. They are not neutered yet;
what is the general age they do this now? When I got Randi he was done at

9
weeks before I got him. I'm getting them the end of the week. One is a
longhair gray and the other is black & white.
They're so cute - both males. Carol


**Hi Carol,

It really depends on how comfortable you* feel about getting it/ the
procedure on done on him or her. I, personally, have preferred to get my
cats neutered when: Blue was over 8 months, and now Dove. almost 7 months
old. I feel better just knowing that his little organs and hormones has had
some* time to develop. Something intuitive in me has directed me towards
that mindset.

ML


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Old May 17th 05, 06:03 AM
-L.
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ElvisRocks wrote:
Hi all - I am getting two more kittens (Cali & Randi are fine now so

now I'm
able to add to my family) from the same shelter I got Cali, but they

are in
foster care - about 3 months old - two boys. They are not neutered

yet;
what is the general age they do this now? When I got Randi he was

done at 9
weeks before I got him. I'm getting them the end of the week. One

is a
longhair gray and the other is black & white.
They're so cute - both males. Carol


G;aad you are adding to your family. They can be safely neutered now,
as long as they weigh 2 lbs. They have to weigh at least that much to
be developmentally ready to handle anesthesia.

-L.

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Old May 17th 05, 09:56 AM
Philip
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-L. wrote:
ElvisRocks wrote:
Hi all - I am getting two more kittens (Cali & Randi are fine now so
now I'm able to add to my family) from the same shelter I got Cali,
but they are in foster care - about 3 months old - two boys. They
are not neutered yet; what is the general age they do this now? When
I got Randi he was done at 9 weeks before I got him. I'm getting
them the end of the week. One is a longhair gray and the other is
black & white.
They're so cute - both males. Carol


G;aad you are adding to your family. They can be safely neutered now,
as long as they weigh 2 lbs. They have to weigh at least that much to
be developmentally ready to handle anesthesia.

-L.


It's instructive to note that women cat owners lop off a cats balls as soon
as the cat can stand the anesthesia while male cat owners perfer to wait
until the first yowls of mating occur. Funny that difference. Wonder how
much of this is owner projection?





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Old May 17th 05, 12:58 PM
Phil P.
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"ElvisRocks" wrote in message
...
Hi all - I am getting two more kittens (Cali & Randi are fine now so now

I'm
able to add to my family) from the same shelter I got Cali, but they are

in
foster care - about 3 months old - two boys. They are not neutered yet;
what is the general age they do this now? When I got Randi he was done at

9
weeks before I got him. I'm getting them the end of the week. One is a
longhair gray and the other is black & white.
They're so cute - both males. Carol


Cats can be neutered safely anytime after 6 weeks but I prefer 8-12 weeks.
If I were you, I'd make an appointment to have them neutered on the same day
you pick them up and bring them straight to the vet as soon as you get them.

Congratulations and best of luck!

Phil



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Old May 17th 05, 01:05 PM
Wendy
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"Philip" wrote in message
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-L. wrote:
ElvisRocks wrote:
Hi all - I am getting two more kittens (Cali & Randi are fine now so
now I'm able to add to my family) from the same shelter I got Cali,
but they are in foster care - about 3 months old - two boys. They
are not neutered yet; what is the general age they do this now? When
I got Randi he was done at 9 weeks before I got him. I'm getting
them the end of the week. One is a longhair gray and the other is
black & white.
They're so cute - both males. Carol


G;aad you are adding to your family. They can be safely neutered now,
as long as they weigh 2 lbs. They have to weigh at least that much to
be developmentally ready to handle anesthesia.

-L.


It's instructive to note that women cat owners lop off a cats balls as

soon
as the cat can stand the anesthesia while male cat owners perfer to wait
until the first yowls of mating occur. Funny that difference. Wonder how
much of this is owner projection?






Well this woman cat owner doesn't fit your stereotype. I wait till my girls
are 6 mos and the boys 7 (or obviously sexually mature earlier) before
getting them neutered. I had never heard of very young kittens being
neutered until just recently so I guess it's a case of old dogs, new tricks
and all that. I'll wait for a generation of cats to be neutered young and
see what the long term effects are before risking my own. But that's just
me.

W


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Old May 17th 05, 01:39 PM
Phil P.
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"Wendy" wrote in message

Well this woman cat owner doesn't fit your stereotype. I wait till my

girls
are 6 mos and the boys 7 (or obviously sexually mature earlier) before
getting them neutered. I had never heard of very young kittens being
neutered until just recently so I guess it's a case of old dogs, new

tricks
and all that. I'll wait for a generation of cats to be neutered young and
see what the long term effects are before risking my own. But that's just
me.


Cat have been neutered early (6-12 weeks) for 30 years and no early or
long-term adverse effects have ever been documented. Special anesthesia and
surgical considerations must be observed with young kittens, but as long as
the well established anesthetic and surgical protocols are followed,
early -age neutering (EAN) is no more risky than traditional age neutering.

In fact EAN is less traumatic for the cat than traditional-age neutering-
especially for females- because young kittens have less abdominal fat and
muscle to cut. Surgery and anesthetic time is also substantially reduced.
There is also virtually no bleeding because the small vessel size permits
precise hemostasis. Recovery and healing is also much quicker- kittens are
up and playing within minutes after surgery and eating within an hour.

Watch this video:

http://maxshouse.com/Early_Age_Spay-1.wmv

Phil



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Old May 17th 05, 02:24 PM
Slimpickins
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Philip Wrote:


It's instructive to note that women cat owners lop off a cats balls as

soon
as the cat can stand the anesthesia while male cat owners perfer to wait
until the first yowls of mating occur. Funny that difference. Wonder how
much of this is owner projection?


*** Not true. I'm a female..and proud :-). Please don't generalize about us,
Philip, because that's not cool.

Just like I'd be tempted to write, based on newspaper headlines, (local &
national) that males are just aggressive bullies and murderers who have no
anger control and they usually take out their frustrations on female
partners and/or other nearby males. Do I know that this is Not* true for
all* males out there..absolutely! Thank God.

ML


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Old May 17th 05, 02:30 PM
Slimpickins
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"Wendy" wrote in message
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"Philip" wrote in message
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-L. wrote:
ElvisRocks wrote:
Hi all - I am getting two more kittens (Cali & Randi are fine now so
now I'm able to add to my family) from the same shelter I got Cali,
but they are in foster care - about 3 months old - two boys. They
are not neutered yet; what is the general age they do this now? When
I got Randi he was done at 9 weeks before I got him. I'm getting
them the end of the week. One is a longhair gray and the other is
black & white.
They're so cute - both males. Carol

G;aad you are adding to your family. They can be safely neutered now,
as long as they weigh 2 lbs. They have to weigh at least that much to
be developmentally ready to handle anesthesia.

-L.


It's instructive to note that women cat owners lop off a cats balls as

soon
as the cat can stand the anesthesia while male cat owners perfer to wait
until the first yowls of mating occur. Funny that difference. Wonder

how
much of this is owner projection?






Well this woman cat owner doesn't fit your stereotype. I wait till my

girls
are 6 mos and the boys 7 (or obviously sexually mature earlier) before
getting them neutered. I had never heard of very young kittens being
neutered until just recently so I guess it's a case of old dogs, new

tricks
and all that. I'll wait for a generation of cats to be neutered young and
see what the long term effects are before risking my own. But that's just
me.

W



**Yep. Me too, Wendy. :-)

ML


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Old May 17th 05, 04:37 PM
-L.
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Wendy wrote:
Well this woman cat owner doesn't fit your stereotype. I wait till my

girls
are 6 mos and the boys 7 (or obviously sexually mature earlier)

before
getting them neutered. I had never heard of very young kittens being
neutered until just recently so I guess it's a case of old dogs, new

tricks
and all that.


Nope, you're just out of the loop.

I'll wait for a generation of cats to be neutered young and
see what the long term effects are before risking my own.


It's been done for 25+ years, IIRC. Study after study has shown early
S/N to be safe. Here are just a few:

Kustritz MV. Early spay-neuter: clinical considerations.
Clin Tech Small Anim Pract. 2002 Aug;17(3):124-8.

Kustritz MV. Early spay-neuter in the dog and cat.
Vet Clin North Am Small Anim Pract. 1999 Jul;29(4):935-43, vii.

Hoskins JD. Pediatric health care and management.
Vet Clin North Am Small Anim Pract. 1999 Jul;29(4):837-52, v.

Stubbs WP, Bloomberg MS. Implications of early neutering in the dog
and cat. Semin Vet Med Surg (Small Anim). 1995 Feb;10(1):8-12.

Howe LM. Short-term results and complications of prepubertal
gonadectomy in cats and dogs.J Am Vet Med Assoc. 1997 Jul
1;211(1):57-62.

Johnston SD. Questions and answers on the effects of surgically
neutering dogs and cats. J Am Vet Med Assoc. 1991 Apr 1;198(7):1206-14.

Kahler S. Spaying/neutering comes of age. J Am Vet Med Assoc. 1993 Sep
1;203(5):591-3.

Lieberman LL. A case for neutering pups and kittens at two months of
age.
J Am Vet Med Assoc. 1987 Sep 1;191(5):518-21. Erratum in: J Am Vet Med
Assoc 1987 Nov 1;191(9):1118.

Phillips I. In favor of pediatric neutering.
Can Vet J. 1998 Jul;39(7):397.

Lieberman LL. The optimum time for neutering surgery of dogs and cats.
Vet Rec. 1988 Apr 9;122(15):369.

Gourley J. When to spay. Vet Rec. 1987 Oct 17;121(16):384.

Okkens AC, Kooistra HS, Nickel RF. [Comparison of long term side
effects of ovariectomy versus ovariohisterectomy in the bitch]
Tijdschr Diergeneeskd. 2002 Jun 1;127(11):369-72. Dutch.


There is no reason to wait until a puppy or kitten is sexually mature.
In fact, some types of cancers such as mammary and ovarian cancer are
thought to be triggered or exascerbated by gonadotrophins.


-L.

 




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