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Old September 7th 04, 11:44 AM
Jeannie
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The statistics show that an indoor cat lives much longer than an
outdoor one because of the dangers of living outdoors.


Well, no they don't,


Well, yes they do.


98% of all statistics are made up :-)

Statistics can be made to prove anything.


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Old September 7th 04, 11:52 AM
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"Jeannie" wrote in message
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"Phil P." wrote in message
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"Steve G" wrote in message
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The statistics show that an indoor cat lives much longer than an
outdoor one because of the dangers of living outdoors.

Well, no they don't,


Well, yes they do.


98% of all statistics are made up :-)

Statistics can be made to prove anything.


Do you have any statistics to prove that ? LOL!


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Old September 7th 04, 11:52 AM
Phil P.
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"Jeannie" wrote in message
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"Phil P." wrote in message
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"Steve G" wrote in message
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The statistics show that an indoor cat lives much longer than an
outdoor one because of the dangers of living outdoors.

Well, no they don't,


Well, yes they do.


98% of all statistics are made up :-)

Statistics can be made to prove anything.


Do you have any statistics to prove that ? LOL!


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Old September 7th 04, 02:39 PM
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" Not nearly as tiresome as your sarcasm. Do you mean to tell me

that
you live in Chapel Hill and let your cats roam? Rest assured
that cats were not "designed" to live outside in the modern
urban world.


I'm sorry Mary, but I nearly wrote a post along the same lines as
Steve.
I found Lusksat post really annoying and inflammatory to those who
let their cats out.
If this was a US/Canadian moderated forum especially for indoor cats
then I would understand the response and accept that , but this is an
unmodertated cat newsgroup for anybody and everybody regardless.
We all feel strongly about certain subjects and want to push those
ideas and in an unmoderated newsgroup there's bound to be insults and
sarcasm . If Luskats and anyone writes posts like that then there are
bound to be answers like Steve's. That's newsgroups for you

Of course people should be warned of the dangers and encouraged to
keep their cat in or limit its time outside, if it is necessary.

What really upsets me is seeing posts on forums from people who
react to their cats natural behaviour like scratching and jumping on
surfaces by shouting at them , spraying them with water and/or
vinegar, throwing things at them , picking them up and shaking them,
hissing in their faces tapping their noses, using shock/IV collars
on them and matter of factly talking about disciplining them and
finding these methods totally acceptable without even bothering to
find or use kinder and better ways.
Alison



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Old September 7th 04, 02:39 PM
Alison
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"Mary" wrote in message
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" Not nearly as tiresome as your sarcasm. Do you mean to tell me

that
you live in Chapel Hill and let your cats roam? Rest assured
that cats were not "designed" to live outside in the modern
urban world.


I'm sorry Mary, but I nearly wrote a post along the same lines as
Steve.
I found Lusksat post really annoying and inflammatory to those who
let their cats out.
If this was a US/Canadian moderated forum especially for indoor cats
then I would understand the response and accept that , but this is an
unmodertated cat newsgroup for anybody and everybody regardless.
We all feel strongly about certain subjects and want to push those
ideas and in an unmoderated newsgroup there's bound to be insults and
sarcasm . If Luskats and anyone writes posts like that then there are
bound to be answers like Steve's. That's newsgroups for you

Of course people should be warned of the dangers and encouraged to
keep their cat in or limit its time outside, if it is necessary.

What really upsets me is seeing posts on forums from people who
react to their cats natural behaviour like scratching and jumping on
surfaces by shouting at them , spraying them with water and/or
vinegar, throwing things at them , picking them up and shaking them,
hissing in their faces tapping their noses, using shock/IV collars
on them and matter of factly talking about disciplining them and
finding these methods totally acceptable without even bothering to
find or use kinder and better ways.
Alison



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Old September 7th 04, 02:42 PM
Alison
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"Phil P." wrote in message
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Statistics can be made to prove anything.


Do you have any statistics to prove that ? LOL!


ROTFL ,
What's that saying about statistics and damn lies?
Alison


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Old September 7th 04, 02:42 PM
Alison
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"Phil P." wrote in message
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Statistics can be made to prove anything.


Do you have any statistics to prove that ? LOL!


ROTFL ,
What's that saying about statistics and damn lies?
Alison


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Old September 7th 04, 03:38 PM
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I found Lusksat post really annoying and inflammatory to those who let

their cats out.

This subject is a parallel to a music newsgroup post asking whether it was
The
Beatles, Elvis or The Rolling Stones who were the greatest. In other
words.....this topic has been discussed, analyzed and brought back for as
long
as this newsgroup existed. It's not a new subject and no new ground has been
broken. Those in the UK feel it's ok to let a cat wander about. Those in
the
US..experts...the majority of pet people, etc..feel is it best to keep the
cat
inside.

Frankly, there have been a high number of posts from people who mourned a
pet
who died outside from: a car..poisons..wild animals..dogs..and a significant
number of posts from those who lost cats (outside cats never returned home)


It's isn't real helpful to harangue and condemn someone for letting a cat out
who's brokenhearted over just losing it. Which you do constantly. It always
makes me wonder if you don't honestly think the mourning cat owner in question
is *already* feeling guilty and bad enough and hasn't "learned their lesson."

Sherry
 




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