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Laura R. wrote:
circa Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:48:20 -0800, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, BigDaDDY ) said, Ya know, If I wanted to be judged, I would have entered a popularity contest. Perhaps you people could stick to answering the posts and keep your judgements to yourselves, since you probably don't know the entire story. If you really want to know, there are probably very few people in the world that love cats more than my fiance. She was crying last night because she was worried about her cat. I told her I would post on here to see if someone knew what may be the problem. If you people are that dumb to think we aren't going to go for a second opinion, then I guess I thought the intellect on this board was a little higher. The post was simply a means to perhaps comfort her by possibly knowing what may be wrong, not as a substitute for a second opinion. So after all the posts, not a single thing addressed my question. Thanks for nothin'! I think you have some reading problems. Every single response I see *did* address your question, and I *do not* see a bunch of judgement. I see a bunch of people advising you to get your cat to a vet, WHICH YOU DAMNED WELL NEED TO DO- NOW. I do not see one single person accusing you of not planning to get a second opinion- they ADVISED you to do so. If you are standing in the middle of the street and I see a bus heading towards you and ADVISE you to get out of the way, is that somehow "useless" "judgement" to you, as well. Good christ. Unfreakingbelievable. Laura Hey, we agree on something! ;-) I think this fellow may consider the renovations going on in his garage of higher importance than the welfare of his cat. -- "Its the bugs that keep it running." -Joe Canuck |
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When you first posted, I read the first line of your post and then ignored
it as troll bait. After seeing this one, I went back and checked the first one. Yes, you did get a lot of judgment heaped on your head, but most of the calmer replies concurred: it could be anything, and you need to seek out a better vet, or go back to the first one and be more aggressive in your demands. It's impossible to diagnose on the internet, and the symptoms you described are so general as to be suggestive of any one of thousands of things! "BigDaDDY" wrote in message ... Ya know, If I wanted to be judged, I would have entered a popularity contest. Perhaps you people could stick to answering the posts and keep your judgements to yourselves, since you probably don't know the entire story. If you really want to know, there are probably very few people in the world that love cats more than my fiance. She was crying last night because she was worried about her cat. I told her I would post on here to see if someone knew what may be the problem. If you people are that dumb to think we aren't going to go for a second opinion, then I guess I thought the intellect on this board was a little higher. The post was simply a means to perhaps comfort her by possibly knowing what may be wrong, not as a substitute for a second opinion. So after all the posts, not a single thing addressed my question. Thanks for nothin'! |
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When you first posted, I read the first line of your post and then ignored
it as troll bait. After seeing this one, I went back and checked the first one. Yes, you did get a lot of judgment heaped on your head, but most of the calmer replies concurred: it could be anything, and you need to seek out a better vet, or go back to the first one and be more aggressive in your demands. It's impossible to diagnose on the internet, and the symptoms you described are so general as to be suggestive of any one of thousands of things! "BigDaDDY" wrote in message ... Ya know, If I wanted to be judged, I would have entered a popularity contest. Perhaps you people could stick to answering the posts and keep your judgements to yourselves, since you probably don't know the entire story. If you really want to know, there are probably very few people in the world that love cats more than my fiance. She was crying last night because she was worried about her cat. I told her I would post on here to see if someone knew what may be the problem. If you people are that dumb to think we aren't going to go for a second opinion, then I guess I thought the intellect on this board was a little higher. The post was simply a means to perhaps comfort her by possibly knowing what may be wrong, not as a substitute for a second opinion. So after all the posts, not a single thing addressed my question. Thanks for nothin'! |
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Caroline wrote:
"Joe Canuck" wrote BigDaDDY wrote: snip So after all the posts, not a single thing addressed my question. Thanks for nothin'! One does have to wonder when their cat obviously has a medical issue why they run first to the newsgroups for answers instead of going to the obvious place for this... the VET. Joe, the guy went to the vet and didn't get anything from the visit that helped. So naturally he was baffled. Happens to all of us, it seems to me. Vets do misdiagnose. These misdiagnoses do come up here. (I write this not as an indictment of vets. I was one of the faction that did not want any action taken against a certain vet who recently did not meet the standards of many people here.. ) Sometimes people on the newsgroup do have more experience than certain vets. Besides, at the newsgroup, posters have all the time in the world to relate a cat's symptoms. A vet has a few minutes to look at a cat and listen to a description of symptoms. BigDaddy, for what it's worth, I found nothing wrong and everything right in your initial post, which explicitly and merely asked if anyone else had seen certain symptoms in their own cats. I know money is often a concern that affects most everyone's pet (and children, and parent) decisions, so I don't blame anyone for trying to be cost-effective, within reason (which is pretty subjective!). My cat has never had all the symptoms you describe. He did go through a period of vomiting and having some litter box changes last year (but nothing as serious as your cat's), and I (not the darn vet to whom I took him!) found all he needed was some petroleum jelly-based hairball remedy. I don't fault the vet, per se. I do fault any vet who doesn't acknowledge they often can't be sure what's wrong with a cat, so continue troubleshooting. Your cat sounds very sick. I hope you find the problem, one way or another, and that Sammy is better soon. I for one would welcome an update. I'm sure it will help others here in the future. Good luck to your cat, your fiancé, and you, C OH MY GOD!!!! FINALLY!!!! Someone with some intellect. Thank you very much for your response. If only people would read the damn question and answer my specific question rather than make assumptions about my priorites and concern for my cat. I have been on newsgroups a lot, and I can tell you from experience that oftentimes you can learn more on a newsgroup than you can anywhere else because past experience is a good teacher. Not to mention, it is possible that 1 or more vets hang out here as well. In any case, I talked with someone I work with, and he mentioned that his cat had similar problems and that it was a kidney problem. The cat eventually died from it. Anyway, Sammy is at the vet overnight tonight and she's having some tests done. Hope all goes well. Thanks again. Matt |
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Caroline wrote:
"Joe Canuck" wrote BigDaDDY wrote: snip So after all the posts, not a single thing addressed my question. Thanks for nothin'! One does have to wonder when their cat obviously has a medical issue why they run first to the newsgroups for answers instead of going to the obvious place for this... the VET. Joe, the guy went to the vet and didn't get anything from the visit that helped. So naturally he was baffled. Happens to all of us, it seems to me. Vets do misdiagnose. These misdiagnoses do come up here. (I write this not as an indictment of vets. I was one of the faction that did not want any action taken against a certain vet who recently did not meet the standards of many people here.. ) Sometimes people on the newsgroup do have more experience than certain vets. Besides, at the newsgroup, posters have all the time in the world to relate a cat's symptoms. A vet has a few minutes to look at a cat and listen to a description of symptoms. BigDaddy, for what it's worth, I found nothing wrong and everything right in your initial post, which explicitly and merely asked if anyone else had seen certain symptoms in their own cats. I know money is often a concern that affects most everyone's pet (and children, and parent) decisions, so I don't blame anyone for trying to be cost-effective, within reason (which is pretty subjective!). My cat has never had all the symptoms you describe. He did go through a period of vomiting and having some litter box changes last year (but nothing as serious as your cat's), and I (not the darn vet to whom I took him!) found all he needed was some petroleum jelly-based hairball remedy. I don't fault the vet, per se. I do fault any vet who doesn't acknowledge they often can't be sure what's wrong with a cat, so continue troubleshooting. Your cat sounds very sick. I hope you find the problem, one way or another, and that Sammy is better soon. I for one would welcome an update. I'm sure it will help others here in the future. Good luck to your cat, your fiancé, and you, C OH MY GOD!!!! FINALLY!!!! Someone with some intellect. Thank you very much for your response. If only people would read the damn question and answer my specific question rather than make assumptions about my priorites and concern for my cat. I have been on newsgroups a lot, and I can tell you from experience that oftentimes you can learn more on a newsgroup than you can anywhere else because past experience is a good teacher. Not to mention, it is possible that 1 or more vets hang out here as well. In any case, I talked with someone I work with, and he mentioned that his cat had similar problems and that it was a kidney problem. The cat eventually died from it. Anyway, Sammy is at the vet overnight tonight and she's having some tests done. Hope all goes well. Thanks again. Matt |
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Laura R. wrote:
circa 12 Feb 2004 01:55:39 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Cheryl ) said, Same here. I've been to the vet at 1 am just because my cat was stuck there scared overnight, and it was an emergency vet and opened any ways, and let me come by just to sit with him. Ditto. More times than I can even remember anymore. Laura WELL PIN A MEDAL ON ALL YOUR ASSES!! |
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Laura R. wrote:
circa 12 Feb 2004 01:55:39 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Cheryl ) said, Same here. I've been to the vet at 1 am just because my cat was stuck there scared overnight, and it was an emergency vet and opened any ways, and let me come by just to sit with him. Ditto. More times than I can even remember anymore. Laura WELL PIN A MEDAL ON ALL YOUR ASSES!! |
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Joe Canuck wrote:
BigDaDDY wrote: Joe Canuck wrote: BigDaDDY wrote: Ya know, If I wanted to be judged, I would have entered a popularity contest. Perhaps you people could stick to answering the posts and keep your judgements to yourselves, since you probably don't know the entire story. You could always explain the entire story. If you really want to know, there are probably very few people in the world that love cats more than my fiance. She was crying last night because she was worried about her cat. I told her I would post on here to see if someone knew what may be the problem. If you people are that dumb to think we aren't going to go for a second opinion, then I guess I thought the intellect on this board was a little higher. The post was simply a means to perhaps comfort her by possibly knowing what may be wrong, not as a substitute for a second opinion. So after all the posts, not a single thing addressed my question. Thanks for nothin'! One does have to wonder when their cat obviously has a medical issue why they run first to the newsgroups for answers instead of going to the obvious place for this... the VET. Yeah, once again, superior intellect on your part...NOT!! You won't get the help you want by being insulting. You do want help don't you? There are several knowledgable people here who can offer that, but generally people are turned off by insulting comments. Excuse the **** out of me for trying to take advantage of all the resources available to me. I'm sure whenever we find out what the cats problem is, that our cat is not the only cat in the world that has experienced it. Consequently, maybe if someone on this group had a cat with the same symptoms, they could tell us what the problem was. The newsgroup post was simply to find out what the problem was. Not a substitute for a second vet appointment. Besides, if you looked at my original post, it was at 1AM and we weren't going to go to the vet at 1AM. If the animal is in serious need of medical attention then going to the vet at 1AM is most definitely advisable. Many clinics offer emergency after hours vet services. Instead of knocking someone for trying to use all available resources, That is just it, you did NOT use all available resources. maybe you should commend them for going above and beyond to try to understand what the problem may be and perhaps research that problem to find ways to prevent future occurances. A vet can fix things, but only the owner can provide an environment that is less likely to create future problems. So to you I say...BITE ME! The bottom line here is that consulting a newsgroup for an obvious sick animal is very poor substitute for going to the vet. I noticed shortly after your post about your cat, your concern shifted rather quickly to your garage floor with your post in alt.home.repair Some of that cash going into fixing up your unfinished garage in that home you just bought should be directed to the medical needs to your pet cat. It isn't a matter of not enough cash, it is a matter of correct allocation of the funds. You need to work on your priorities. Have a nice day. I can 100% honestly say, I do not think I have ever seen a person as stupid as you in my entire life. An example, here is your quote, "the bottom line here is consulting a newsgroup for an obvious sick animal is a very poor substitue for going to the vet." Now, I know this may be difficult since it is very evident that you have the IQ of a Frisbee, but point your little mouse up to the very top of the thread and read my article again. This time try to comprehend it. When you get to the part that says.. "The post was simply a means to perhaps comfort her by possibly knowing what may be wrong, not as a substitute for a second opinion." look back at what you just posted, go to the mirror and bitch slap yourself upside the head and yell, GOD am I ****ing stupid!! If I wanted a bunch of Blah ****ing Blah responses, I would have asked for them. Now, do you think...you're cat is very sick is really beneficial? It's like, NO **** Sherlock! I obviously tried the vet once, and I posted on here because that didn't work. Very sick is of absolutely no use whatsoever. I can deduce that without the help of anyone on this board. I'm interested in what is wrong not adjectives. As for my garage, it is coming along nicely thanks. The cat is not mine, consequently I take no responsibility for it. I was just doing my fiance a favor by posting here to try to help her out. But since you are interested in my priorities, I had a lot of fun doing the drywall in my garage. In fact, I wouldn't doubt it if all the joint compound dust has something to do with what is wrong with my fiance's cat. Her cat loves to sit on heater vents and I'm sure a lot of that dust got sucked into the furnace and eventually made its way into the house. Fortunately when I was out there working on the garage I had a respirator on so I wouldn't inhale all that dust. |
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Joe Canuck wrote:
BigDaDDY wrote: Joe Canuck wrote: BigDaDDY wrote: Ya know, If I wanted to be judged, I would have entered a popularity contest. Perhaps you people could stick to answering the posts and keep your judgements to yourselves, since you probably don't know the entire story. You could always explain the entire story. If you really want to know, there are probably very few people in the world that love cats more than my fiance. She was crying last night because she was worried about her cat. I told her I would post on here to see if someone knew what may be the problem. If you people are that dumb to think we aren't going to go for a second opinion, then I guess I thought the intellect on this board was a little higher. The post was simply a means to perhaps comfort her by possibly knowing what may be wrong, not as a substitute for a second opinion. So after all the posts, not a single thing addressed my question. Thanks for nothin'! One does have to wonder when their cat obviously has a medical issue why they run first to the newsgroups for answers instead of going to the obvious place for this... the VET. Yeah, once again, superior intellect on your part...NOT!! You won't get the help you want by being insulting. You do want help don't you? There are several knowledgable people here who can offer that, but generally people are turned off by insulting comments. Excuse the **** out of me for trying to take advantage of all the resources available to me. I'm sure whenever we find out what the cats problem is, that our cat is not the only cat in the world that has experienced it. Consequently, maybe if someone on this group had a cat with the same symptoms, they could tell us what the problem was. The newsgroup post was simply to find out what the problem was. Not a substitute for a second vet appointment. Besides, if you looked at my original post, it was at 1AM and we weren't going to go to the vet at 1AM. If the animal is in serious need of medical attention then going to the vet at 1AM is most definitely advisable. Many clinics offer emergency after hours vet services. Instead of knocking someone for trying to use all available resources, That is just it, you did NOT use all available resources. maybe you should commend them for going above and beyond to try to understand what the problem may be and perhaps research that problem to find ways to prevent future occurances. A vet can fix things, but only the owner can provide an environment that is less likely to create future problems. So to you I say...BITE ME! The bottom line here is that consulting a newsgroup for an obvious sick animal is very poor substitute for going to the vet. I noticed shortly after your post about your cat, your concern shifted rather quickly to your garage floor with your post in alt.home.repair Some of that cash going into fixing up your unfinished garage in that home you just bought should be directed to the medical needs to your pet cat. It isn't a matter of not enough cash, it is a matter of correct allocation of the funds. You need to work on your priorities. Have a nice day. I can 100% honestly say, I do not think I have ever seen a person as stupid as you in my entire life. An example, here is your quote, "the bottom line here is consulting a newsgroup for an obvious sick animal is a very poor substitue for going to the vet." Now, I know this may be difficult since it is very evident that you have the IQ of a Frisbee, but point your little mouse up to the very top of the thread and read my article again. This time try to comprehend it. When you get to the part that says.. "The post was simply a means to perhaps comfort her by possibly knowing what may be wrong, not as a substitute for a second opinion." look back at what you just posted, go to the mirror and bitch slap yourself upside the head and yell, GOD am I ****ing stupid!! If I wanted a bunch of Blah ****ing Blah responses, I would have asked for them. Now, do you think...you're cat is very sick is really beneficial? It's like, NO **** Sherlock! I obviously tried the vet once, and I posted on here because that didn't work. Very sick is of absolutely no use whatsoever. I can deduce that without the help of anyone on this board. I'm interested in what is wrong not adjectives. As for my garage, it is coming along nicely thanks. The cat is not mine, consequently I take no responsibility for it. I was just doing my fiance a favor by posting here to try to help her out. But since you are interested in my priorities, I had a lot of fun doing the drywall in my garage. In fact, I wouldn't doubt it if all the joint compound dust has something to do with what is wrong with my fiance's cat. Her cat loves to sit on heater vents and I'm sure a lot of that dust got sucked into the furnace and eventually made its way into the house. Fortunately when I was out there working on the garage I had a respirator on so I wouldn't inhale all that dust. |
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"Cheryl" wrote in message ... Brandy Alexandre wrote in s.com on 11 Feb 2004: Cheryl wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: Same here. I've been to the vet at 1 am just because my cat was stuck there scared overnight, and it was an emergency vet and opened any ways, and let me come by just to sit with him. I took Kami the last time because she was limping more than her aging self and I thought she was injured. It wasn't stopping her and we probably could have waited until morning, but if it was a fracture I didn't want her jumping up and down from the bed like she does and get more hurt. It was only an arthritis flare-up and she got a shot for pain and inflamation. I don't regret taking her except for the smelly dogs we had to sit with in the waiting room. Why do people in vet waiting rooms always let their big dogs sniff all over a cat carrier? I usually pick up the carrier and put it on a chair away from the dog so they get the message, but some people just let the dog go over and resume sniffing carrier?? -- Cheryl I guess we must have very civilized pet owners at my vet. I have never seen anyone bring in an animal that they didn't have under control. |
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