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"Cheryl" wrote in message
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Brandy Alexandre wrote in
s.com on 11 Feb 2004:

Cheryl wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

Same here. I've been to the vet at 1 am just because my cat was
stuck there scared overnight, and it was an emergency vet and
opened any ways, and let me come by just to sit with him.


I took Kami the last time because she was limping more than her aging
self and I thought she was injured. It wasn't stopping her and we
probably could have waited until morning, but if it was a fracture I
didn't want her jumping up and down from the bed like she does and get
more hurt. It was only an arthritis flare-up and she got a shot for
pain and inflamation. I don't regret taking her except for the smelly
dogs we had to sit with in the waiting room.


Why do people in vet waiting rooms always let their big dogs sniff all over
a cat carrier? I usually pick up the carrier and put it on a chair away
from the dog so they get the message, but some people just let the dog go
over and resume sniffing carrier??

--
Cheryl

I guess we must have very civilized pet owners at my vet. I have never seen
anyone bring in an animal that they didn't have under control.

In article ,
enlightened us with...

Perhaps you could take your cat to the vet before she dies.


Perhaps you could kiss my ass!


I smell a troll.

The vehemence of the replies, combined with the lovely language, sure
makes me think it, anyway.

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In article ,
enlightened us with...

Perhaps you could take your cat to the vet before she dies.


Perhaps you could kiss my ass!


I smell a troll.

The vehemence of the replies, combined with the lovely language, sure
makes me think it, anyway.

--
--
~kaeli~
A boiled egg in the morning is hard to beat.
http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart
http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace

"BigDaDDY" wrote
snip for conciseness but comments noted
I have been on newsgroups a lot, and I can tell you from experience that
oftentimes you can learn more on a newsgroup than you can anywhere else
because past experience is a good teacher.

FWIW--

I agree 100%. I think the 'net has been a huge boon to the marketplace of ideas,
with enormous benevolent effect on the lives of "ordinary people."

As you are probably aware, some newsgroups tend to attract more sanctimony,
obsession, etc. than others. Lately I find myself enjoying groups much more when
about half the regulars are killfiled. At least, that seems to me to be the
usual proportion of sanctimonious attitudes. That's not to say someone somewhere
is not enjoying these killfilees' posts. It is to say I don't get anything out
of them. So diff'rent strokes...

Not to mention, it is possible
that 1 or more vets hang out here as well.

Yes, although alt.med.veterinary seems to have many more. Biases (and some
sanctimony) are evident among them. They're human. This in itself is valuable to
know.

On the other hand, the other week at alt.med.veterinary I saw a fascinating
professional exchange on the use of a particular drug (or procedure? can't
remember now). No airs were being put on. The vet participants were simply
trying to add to their own database of experience in a specific area where there
hadn't been any or many formal studies. And the public could read it and better
understand the vets' decision-making process in general. Really cool.

In any case, I talked with
someone I work with, and he mentioned that his cat had similar problems and
that it was a kidney problem. The cat eventually died from it.

Unfortunately, I have heard of cats with kidney problems. Kidney maladies in old
age in particular seem not uncommon. (Maybe you likewise are aware of how
common kidney problems are; I don't mean to be presumptuous.)

FWIW, a web search might turn up more. When my cat was ill a few weeks ago, I
was amazed at what was on the web re feline illnesses.

I can't recall whether you posted your cat's age.

Anyway,
Sammy is at the vet overnight tonight and she's having some tests done.
Hope all goes well.

Thanks again.

You're welcome. Thanks for sticking with the forum, as again, I think people
sharing their experiences helps others with their cats (etc.).

Best wishes for Sammy's recovery,

C.

"BigDaDDY" wrote
snip for conciseness but comments noted
I have been on newsgroups a lot, and I can tell you from experience that
oftentimes you can learn more on a newsgroup than you can anywhere else
because past experience is a good teacher.

FWIW--

I agree 100%. I think the 'net has been a huge boon to the marketplace of ideas,
with enormous benevolent effect on the lives of "ordinary people."

As you are probably aware, some newsgroups tend to attract more sanctimony,
obsession, etc. than others. Lately I find myself enjoying groups much more when
about half the regulars are killfiled. At least, that seems to me to be the
usual proportion of sanctimonious attitudes. That's not to say someone somewhere
is not enjoying these killfilees' posts. It is to say I don't get anything out
of them. So diff'rent strokes...

Not to mention, it is possible
that 1 or more vets hang out here as well.

Yes, although alt.med.veterinary seems to have many more. Biases (and some
sanctimony) are evident among them. They're human. This in itself is valuable to
know.

On the other hand, the other week at alt.med.veterinary I saw a fascinating
professional exchange on the use of a particular drug (or procedure? can't
remember now). No airs were being put on. The vet participants were simply
trying to add to their own database of experience in a specific area where there
hadn't been any or many formal studies. And the public could read it and better
understand the vets' decision-making process in general. Really cool.

In any case, I talked with
someone I work with, and he mentioned that his cat had similar problems and
that it was a kidney problem. The cat eventually died from it.

Unfortunately, I have heard of cats with kidney problems. Kidney maladies in old
age in particular seem not uncommon. (Maybe you likewise are aware of how
common kidney problems are; I don't mean to be presumptuous.)

FWIW, a web search might turn up more. When my cat was ill a few weeks ago, I
was amazed at what was on the web re feline illnesses.

I can't recall whether you posted your cat's age.

Anyway,
Sammy is at the vet overnight tonight and she's having some tests done.
Hope all goes well.

Thanks again.

You're welcome. Thanks for sticking with the forum, as again, I think people
sharing their experiences helps others with their cats (etc.).

Best wishes for Sammy's recovery,

C.

Cheryl wrote:

Why do people in vet waiting rooms always let their big dogs sniff all over
a cat carrier? I usually pick up the carrier and put it on a chair away
from the dog so they get the message, but some people just let the dog go
over and resume sniffing carrier??

That's an excellent question. When we took in a stray last year, we brought her
to a vet we hadn't used before because he was close by and had evening hours.
The vet himself was okay, but we would never go back there because the waiting
room is tiny and the dog owners so inconsiderate. Here we have a terrified cat
screaming with fear in her carrier, and people let their dogs come right up and
stick their noses into the grate. When we objected, the owners seemed
surprised: "oh, is your cat afraid of dogs?" Sheesh. That is one big reason I
prefer a felines only vet.

At the emergency vet we use, at least the waiting room is big enough that you
can keep your cat away from inquiring dogs, and I've seen the staff reprimand
dog owners for not keeping their animals under control. But you're right, I'm
just mystified as to why so many dog owners let their dogs bother cats in a
waiting room.

Cheryl wrote:

Why do people in vet waiting rooms always let their big dogs sniff all over
a cat carrier? I usually pick up the carrier and put it on a chair away
from the dog so they get the message, but some people just let the dog go
over and resume sniffing carrier??

That's an excellent question. When we took in a stray last year, we brought her
to a vet we hadn't used before because he was close by and had evening hours.
The vet himself was okay, but we would never go back there because the waiting
room is tiny and the dog owners so inconsiderate. Here we have a terrified cat
screaming with fear in her carrier, and people let their dogs come right up and
stick their noses into the grate. When we objected, the owners seemed
surprised: "oh, is your cat afraid of dogs?" Sheesh. That is one big reason I
prefer a felines only vet.

At the emergency vet we use, at least the waiting room is big enough that you
can keep your cat away from inquiring dogs, and I've seen the staff reprimand
dog owners for not keeping their animals under control. But you're right, I'm
just mystified as to why so many dog owners let their dogs bother cats in a
waiting room.

BigDaDDY wrote:

I can 100% honestly say, I do not think I have ever seen a person as stupid
as you in my entire life.

You HAVE lived a sheltered life haven't you? :-)

An example, here is your quote, "the bottom line
here is consulting a newsgroup for an obvious sick animal is a very poor
substitue for going to the vet." Now, I know this may be difficult since
it is very evident that you have the IQ of a Frisbee,

yawn Uh, sure... whatever you say Mr. BigDaDDy. :-)

but point your little
mouse up to the very top of the thread and read my article again. This
time try to comprehend it. When you get to the part that says.. "The post
was simply a means to perhaps comfort her by possibly knowing what may be
wrong, not as a substitute for a second opinion." look back at what you
just posted, go to the mirror and bitch slap yourself upside the head and
yell, GOD am I ****ing stupid!!

The animal is sick.

Very comforting to receive determination over the newsgroups that the
animal is in fact VERY sick.

This leads to a sleepless night and worry.

Better course of action: Find vet with emergency services, place cat and
fiance in car and drive to vet. Not only get diagnosis of problem but
fiance feeling better that medical person has looked at pet.

Was that simple enough for you? :-)
Was there any word you did not understand? :-)

If I wanted a bunch of Blah ****ing Blah responses, I would have asked for
them.

I know you won't see this, but you did ask for them. :-)

You are also asking for an attitude adjustment, but that can only be
delivered in person. :-)

Now, do you think...you're cat is very sick is really beneficial?

Yes, it is meant to alarm you and get your ass in gear and out the door
to emergency vet services. :-)

It's like, NO **** Sherlock! I obviously tried the vet once,

One time, as in singular. Good going Mr. BigDaddy.

Carefully noted how you didn't obtain a second opinion rather than waste
time in here. :-)

and I posted
on here because that didn't work. Very sick is of absolutely no use
whatsoever. I can deduce that without the help of anyone on this board. I'm
interested in what is wrong not adjectives.

Well if you deduced that much then why didn't you get yourself and the
cat to emergency vet services immediately? :-)

As for my garage, it is coming along nicely thanks. The cat is not mine,
consequently I take no responsibility for it. I was just doing my fiance a
favor by posting here to try to help her out.

Fiance? So you are about to become a couple?

Yet you take NO responsibility for something near and dear to the heart
of your fiance? It is her problem is your attitude.

Wow, what an attitude towards a loved one! :-)


But since you are interested
in my priorities, I had a lot of fun doing the drywall in my garage.

I'm sure you have.

The cat on the other hand is just a pain in the ass right? :-)

In
fact, I wouldn't doubt it if all the joint compound dust has something to
do with what is wrong with my fiance's cat.

Yet you allowed the cat to be subjected to it... knowing full well all
the time it might not be healthy.

Worse yet, you allowed your fiance to be also subjected to it.

Her cat loves to sit on heater
vents and I'm sure a lot of that dust got sucked into the furnace and
eventually made its way into the house. Fortunately when I was out there
working on the garage I had a respirator on so I wouldn't inhale all that
dust.

It is all about YOU isn't it.

To hell with the fiance and cat inside the house breathing in the dust.

You could have prevented the dust from spreading to the rest of the
house, but you didn't. :-)

You are another dime-a-dozen moron on the 'net. There were those before
you and there will be those after you.

Have a real nice day. :-)

--
"Its the bugs that keep it running."
-Joe Canuck

BigDaDDY wrote:

I can 100% honestly say, I do not think I have ever seen a person as stupid
as you in my entire life.

You HAVE lived a sheltered life haven't you? :-)

An example, here is your quote, "the bottom line
here is consulting a newsgroup for an obvious sick animal is a very poor
substitue for going to the vet." Now, I know this may be difficult since
it is very evident that you have the IQ of a Frisbee,

yawn Uh, sure... whatever you say Mr. BigDaDDy. :-)

but point your little
mouse up to the very top of the thread and read my article again. This
time try to comprehend it. When you get to the part that says.. "The post
was simply a means to perhaps comfort her by possibly knowing what may be
wrong, not as a substitute for a second opinion." look back at what you
just posted, go to the mirror and bitch slap yourself upside the head and
yell, GOD am I ****ing stupid!!

The animal is sick.

Very comforting to receive determination over the newsgroups that the
animal is in fact VERY sick.

This leads to a sleepless night and worry.

Better course of action: Find vet with emergency services, place cat and
fiance in car and drive to vet. Not only get diagnosis of problem but
fiance feeling better that medical person has looked at pet.

Was that simple enough for you? :-)
Was there any word you did not understand? :-)

If I wanted a bunch of Blah ****ing Blah responses, I would have asked for
them.

I know you won't see this, but you did ask for them. :-)

You are also asking for an attitude adjustment, but that can only be
delivered in person. :-)

Now, do you think...you're cat is very sick is really beneficial?

Yes, it is meant to alarm you and get your ass in gear and out the door
to emergency vet services. :-)

It's like, NO **** Sherlock! I obviously tried the vet once,

One time, as in singular. Good going Mr. BigDaddy.

Carefully noted how you didn't obtain a second opinion rather than waste
time in here. :-)

and I posted
on here because that didn't work. Very sick is of absolutely no use
whatsoever. I can deduce that without the help of anyone on this board. I'm
interested in what is wrong not adjectives.

Well if you deduced that much then why didn't you get yourself and the
cat to emergency vet services immediately? :-)

As for my garage, it is coming along nicely thanks. The cat is not mine,
consequently I take no responsibility for it. I was just doing my fiance a
favor by posting here to try to help her out.

Fiance? So you are about to become a couple?

Yet you take NO responsibility for something near and dear to the heart
of your fiance? It is her problem is your attitude.

Wow, what an attitude towards a loved one! :-)


But since you are interested
in my priorities, I had a lot of fun doing the drywall in my garage.

I'm sure you have.

The cat on the other hand is just a pain in the ass right? :-)

In
fact, I wouldn't doubt it if all the joint compound dust has something to
do with what is wrong with my fiance's cat.

Yet you allowed the cat to be subjected to it... knowing full well all
the time it might not be healthy.

Worse yet, you allowed your fiance to be also subjected to it.

Her cat loves to sit on heater
vents and I'm sure a lot of that dust got sucked into the furnace and
eventually made its way into the house. Fortunately when I was out there
working on the garage I had a respirator on so I wouldn't inhale all that
dust.

It is all about YOU isn't it.

To hell with the fiance and cat inside the house breathing in the dust.

You could have prevented the dust from spreading to the rest of the
house, but you didn't. :-)

You are another dime-a-dozen moron on the 'net. There were those before
you and there will be those after you.

Have a real nice day. :-)

--
"Its the bugs that keep it running."
-Joe Canuck

Mary wrote:

"Cathy Friedmann" wrote in message
...

"BigDaDDY" wrote in message
...

Mary wrote:


"BigDaDDY" wrote in message
...

Ya know, If I wanted to be judged, I would have entered a

popularity

contest. Perhaps you people could stick to answering the posts

and

keep

your judgements to yourselves, since you probably don't know

the

entire

story.

Perhaps you could take your cat to the vet before she dies.


Perhaps you could kiss my ass!

Do you want advice, or are you just here to p*ss people off?! This

cat

_really_ does need to see a (competent) vet, immediately.

Cathy

--


I have been envisioning "Big Daddy" stopped up like a corked bottle
and unable to pee for a week, (we'll give him two broken legs so he
can't take himself to the doctor) trying to explain to some BFI (big
f***ing idiot) like him why maybe it is time to take him to the
doctor. I'm not saying this ought to happen, but I am enjoying the
picture of him pleading while the BFI does a couple of nights of web
searching.

*People* who have surgery need to be up and having a bowel movement
within a few days or they can die.



Haha, that was funny!

I have another vision. "Big Daddy" not being fed and no scraps available
to him. He pleads with his keeper for food.

All the while his keeper is searching the Internet for definitive
evidence this "Big Daddy" life form actually needs to be fed.

When such evidence is found, the keeper says it is too late to get
anything for today. Will get food on the way home from the office tomorrow.

Food finally arrives, but "Big Daddy" life form is now lifeless sprawled
out on the floor. It was obvious in his last moments of life "Big Daddy"
had been chewing on the newspaper ad with the picture of the hamburger
and fries.

--
"Its the bugs that keep it running."
-Joe Canuck