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Old May 9th 05, 03:02 PM
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Two weeks ago I brought home our two new Bengal kittens - Jasper and Beau -
they were 3 months old and when they left the breeder's home they were both
healthy and playing happily. The kittens had just had their booster - when
they had the first jab the breeder said they had 'stiff legs' for a short
while but soon got over it - but one of their brothers wasnt able to walk -
the vet said she thought it was a reaction to the 'live vaccine'. On the
journey home Jasper went mad and raced around the walls of the carrier -
when he emerged when we got home he wasnt able to walk - his left leg was
limp and his back end was wobbly. The breeder came to look and said it was
the same as his brother (definitely not a broken leg) and likely a reaction
to the vaccine. Beau was fine and explored his new home - poor Jasper had
to be carried everywhere. Jasper is starting to improve now and can just
about manage to hobble around occasionally but now Beau has a problem with
his back and has lost control of his back legs and is dragging himself
around with his front legs - poor thing. It looks like the stress of the
journey caused Jasper to get the reaction before Beau - I am worried that
they wont fully recover - its so sad to see them hobbling around when they
should be running around - has anyone else experienced this?
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Old May 9th 05, 05:23 PM
PawsForThought
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Mandarina via CatKB.com wrote:
It looks like the stress of the
journey caused Jasper to get the reaction before Beau - I am worried

that
they wont fully recover - its so sad to see them hobbling around when

they
should be running around - has anyone else experienced this?


Hi Mandarina,
I am so sorry to hear your kitty had this reaction. I haven't
experienced this particular one, but one of my cats has asthma, which I
firmly believe is related to vaccinosis. I think your Jasper will most
likely recover just fine. However, if he were my cat, I don't think
I'd be vaccinating him in the future, as it's possible the next
reaction could be more severe. This website has some links that you
might find useful
http://home.earthlink.net/~pawsreflect/vaccinosis.html

Also, www.catshots.com is another site that has vaccine information.

Healing hugs to Jasper,

Lauren

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Old May 9th 05, 05:40 PM
Philip
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Mandarina via CatKB.com wrote:
Two weeks ago I brought home our two new Bengal kittens - Jasper and
Beau - they were 3 months old and when they left the breeder's home
they were both healthy and playing happily. The kittens had just had
their booster - when they had the first jab the breeder said they had
'stiff legs' for a short while but soon got over it - but one of
their brothers wasnt able to walk - the vet said she thought it was a
reaction to the 'live vaccine'. On the journey home Jasper went mad
and raced around the walls of the carrier - when he emerged when we
got home he wasnt able to walk - his left leg was limp and his back
end was wobbly. The breeder came to look and said it was the same as
his brother (definitely not a broken leg) and likely a reaction to
the vaccine. Beau was fine and explored his new home - poor Jasper
had to be carried everywhere. Jasper is starting to improve now and
can just about manage to hobble around occasionally but now Beau has
a problem with his back and has lost control of his back legs and is
dragging himself around with his front legs - poor thing. It looks
like the stress of the journey caused Jasper to get the reaction
before Beau - I am worried that they wont fully recover - its so sad
to see them hobbling around when they should be running around - has
anyone else experienced this?


(to the audience) Compared to some of you vaccination believers out there, I
have never been one to enrich veterinarians for preventative measures. But
I've also never had more than two cats simultaneously and they have been
mostly indoor animals.

(to Mandarina) The experience you relate sounds like deliberate over dosing
with a toxic substance. The vet is likely following some protocol having
nebulous benefits beyond enriching the vet. MY feeling is no vaccination
should produce those kinds of side/after effects.




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Old May 9th 05, 06:55 PM
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Thanks for the links and the advice. I'll keep looking and hopefully find
something out there to explain whats happening to my two boys.

I had some really sad news today - one of Jasper and Beau's brothers - who
had the worst reaction to the first jab - died at the weekend. The vet
thinks it is probably related to the medication they gave the poor little
thing for pain relief. We havent given ours anything as they dont seem to
be in a lot of pain - thank goodness - but its even more worrying to think
what happened to poor Barney.

I certainly will not be looking to get them vaccinated again - I'm sure we
can manage without - and perhaps there is something more natural which
might help - still I have a year before we need to think about it. Lets
hope we get to that point with two healthy cats!

Mandarina

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Old May 9th 05, 07:00 PM
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It does sound that way doesnt it! The vet apparently thought it might be
an allergic reaction - its odd that it took 10 days for Beau to show his
symptoms though.

I've definitely gone off the idea of vaccinations!

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Old May 9th 05, 07:29 PM
Philip
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PawsForThought wrote:
Mandarina via CatKB.com wrote:
It looks like the stress of the
journey caused Jasper to get the reaction before Beau - I am worried
that they wont fully recover - its so sad to see them hobbling
around when they should be running around - has anyone else
experienced this?


Hi Mandarina,
I am so sorry to hear your kitty had this reaction. I haven't
experienced this particular one, but one of my cats has asthma, which
I firmly believe is related to vaccinosis. I think your Jasper will
most likely recover just fine. However, if he were my cat, I don't
think I'd be vaccinating him in the future, as it's possible the next
reaction could be more severe. This website has some links that you
might find useful
http://home.earthlink.net/~pawsreflect/vaccinosis.html

snip
Lauren


It would seem my observations over time are in accord with the lady author
Betty Louis:

"When I started to write this article, I decided to see if there were any
trends I could discover by looking back in my own history as a Registered
Veterinary Technician. "
snip

"By the late 1980s, animals were showing severe signs of illnesses. Even
more diseases began to be commonplace such as dental diseases, kidney
failure, hypothyroid (dogs), hyperthyroid (cats), diabetes continued in
dogs, but now emerged in cats as well, cardiomyopathy, cancers, and serious
autoimmunities such as lupus, myasthenia gravis and others."

"From the late 1990s to the present, all of the above diseases continue
across breed lines, sometimes across species lines and there are new
problems being added all the time. IBD/IBS (inflammatory bowel
disease/syndrome) was unheard of when I left veterinary practice in 1987 to
open my holistic consulting business, but is now nearly at epidemic
proportions. Seizures and temperament problems are common now and there are
more cancers and autoimmune diseases."

I find this trend to be incredibly alarming. When charted in this cut and
dried fashion, it is obvious to me that animals are *much* sicker now than
they were a mere 30 years ago and the diseases are very serious.

"I have mulled this situation over, trying to decide why animals (and
probably humans) appear to be sicker than they used to be, and have come to
the conclusion that I can sum up the fundamental reason for this trend in
two words: "toxic exposure". Our focus has changed from *acute* disease,
leading to quick death, to *chronic* disease and long, drawn-out, painful
death. We really have gone from having animals who weren't really sick much
at all to animals who are *always* sick."

Good article. Why? Because we agree. ;^)


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Old May 9th 05, 07:36 PM
Philip
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Amanda Mears via CatKB.com wrote:
Thanks for the links and the advice. I'll keep looking and hopefully
find something out there to explain whats happening to my two boys.

I had some really sad news today - one of Jasper and Beau's brothers
- who had the worst reaction to the first jab - died at the weekend.
The vet thinks it is probably related to the medication they gave the
poor little thing for pain relief. We havent given ours anything as
they dont seem to be in a lot of pain - thank goodness - but its even
more worrying to think what happened to poor Barney.

I certainly will not be looking to get them vaccinated again - I'm
sure we can manage without - and perhaps there is something more
natural which might help - still I have a year before we need to
think about it. Lets hope we get to that point with two healthy cats!

Mandarina


This is going to come off as alarmist but I will risk it.

You are allowing your two healthy cats a year before you fork them over
again to that same assassin vet in the name of good health? Go gnaw on that
for awhile. Stop trying to fix what ain't broke. Good grief!




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Old May 9th 05, 07:36 PM
Philip
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Mandarina via CatKB.com wrote:
It does sound that way doesnt it! The vet apparently thought it
might be an allergic reaction - its odd that it took 10 days for Beau
to show his symptoms though.

I've definitely gone off the idea of vaccinations!


I am interested in hearing how the vet plans to conpensate the owner for
killing her pet! And don't take the offer of FREE vaccinations for the
other cats!


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Old May 9th 05, 09:26 PM
PawsForThought
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Amanda Mears via CatKB.com wrote:
Thanks for the links and the advice. I'll keep looking and hopefully

find
something out there to explain whats happening to my two boys.


You are most welcome

I had some really sad news today - one of Jasper and Beau's brothers

- who
had the worst reaction to the first jab - died at the weekend. The

vet
thinks it is probably related to the medication they gave the poor

little
thing for pain relief. We havent given ours anything as they dont

seem to
be in a lot of pain - thank goodness - but its even more worrying to

think
what happened to poor Barney.


Oh no

I certainly will not be looking to get them vaccinated again - I'm

sure we
can manage without - and perhaps there is something more natural

which
might help - still I have a year before we need to think about it.

Lets
hope we get to that point with two healthy cats!


I would highly recommend joining this list at Yahoo. I have learned so
much there. Let me know if the link doesn't work:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jstsayno2vaccs

Lauren

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Old May 10th 05, 01:08 AM
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On Mon, 09 May 2005 16:40:42 GMT, "Philip"
wrote:

(to the audience) Compared to some of you vaccination believers out there, I
have never been one to enrich veterinarians for preventative measures. But
I've also never had more than two cats simultaneously and they have been
mostly indoor animals.

(to Mandarina) The experience you relate sounds like deliberate over dosing
with a toxic substance. The vet is likely following some protocol having
nebulous benefits beyond enriching the vet. MY feeling is no vaccination
should produce those kinds of side/after effects.

I recently adopted a cat and took him in for neutering and vaccination
without knowing these issues existed. He is going to be an indoor
cat, which suits him fine, and this will probably be the last time he
gets a vaccine, now that I have learned a thing or two. He has
developed oozing lesions between his shoulder blades but seems to be
in good general health. I have been waiting for him to recover on his
own, but perhaps I should do something. If so what?

I had no idea that pharmacology was so lax in this area. People pay
money for this service. Why aren't more of them screaming bloody
murder? I hope my cat will be ok. I swear I will drag out the hammer
and goddamn tongs if he's not.

Charlie



 




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