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I grew up in a rural area in the South and had/have a thick Southern
accent. To give you an idea, recordings I have heard of my own voice sound just like Chester in the old "Gunsmoke" series. The problem was that I learned to read at an early age and as a result developed a vocabulary and manner of speaking very foreign to my mileiu. The people among which I grew up seemed backward and ignorant, in great part because of the way they speak and partly because of their (as perceived by me) anti-intellectualism (I don't need none of that there fancy-dancy edumacation). It wasn't until years later I discovered to my horror that I sound just like them. L'il Abner would fit right in. I spent twenty years of my life as a young adult in cosmopolitan settings learning to speak English without the crude accent I grew up with only to regain it five minutes after returning to my home town. sigh wrote: Sherry wrote: Sort of OT, but I always get offended on the phone with technical support people. I have this awful southern drawl. When I hear myself on tape I just cringe. I think southern accents are really pretty! You are right, though, that there's an unfair stereotype of southerners as not being very bright. I just think it's too bad you feel embarrassed about how you talk, when it's not your fault that other people have this prejudice about your accent. They're the ones who are stupid! Anyway, tech support people I get on the phone always automatically assume the person on the other end is just really dumb. They usually ask me if the computer is plugged in or something really stupid at first. I don't know if it'll be any comfort to know that they treat everyone like that, no matter where you're from. Joyce |
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 10:22:00 -0800, David Yehudah
yodeled: I grew up in a rural area in the South and had/have a thick Southern accent. To give you an idea, recordings I have heard of my own voice sound just like Chester in the old "Gunsmoke" series. The problem was that I learned to read at an early age and as a result developed a vocabulary and manner of speaking very foreign to my mileiu. The people among which I grew up seemed backward and ignorant, in great part because of the way they speak and partly because of their (as perceived by me) anti-intellectualism (I don't need none of that there fancy-dancy edumacation). It wasn't until years later I discovered to my horror that I sound just like them. L'il Abner would fit right in. I spent twenty years of my life as a young adult in cosmopolitan settings learning to speak English without the crude accent I grew up with only to regain it five minutes after returning to my home town. sigh Don't feel bad, David. If I were to come down to where you came from, everyone would probably think I stepped right out of "The Sopranos." Theresa alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/ Single-mindedness is all very well in cows or baboons; in an animal claiming to belong to the same species as Shakespeare it is simply disgraceful. (Aldous Huxley) |
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"Kreisleriana" wrote in message
... On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 09:10:27 -0600, Jeanne Hedge yodeled: On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 10:03:21 +1100, "Yowie" wrote: My family emmigrated from England to Australia when I was four and a half. I don't have much of an accent [1], but my parents retain theres, at least to the ears of Aussies. But when they go back to England, the English swear that they ahve Australian accents! Yowie My ex-BF's family also emigrated to Australia from England when he was a child-- he was the eldest of three boys, and he pretty much kept his English accent-- the younger two are totally Aussie. Pretty weird to hear them all together, since they shared a lot of Aussie mannerisms and expressions, but only the younger two completely absorbed the accent. I think it depends on the age. Up until a certain point, children can learn different languages and speak them as a native toungue. After that point,they can still learn a foreign language, but its an *adult* form of learning and will never be "native" in the way in which th ebrain handles the info. I suspect accents fall into the category of "languages", after all, and important point with a native speaker is that they speak the language without a hint of a foreign accent. Yowie WHo knows to say "*yoe*-gert" at the shops but "yog-*ert*" to my parents when referring to yoghurt |
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"JoJo" wrote in message ...
Annie, sorry to hear you've got to come here for surgery, but if you need a translator I can help (we don't talk that bad). I hope your husbands surgery goes well! You may run into the following - If anyone asks you "jeet jet" what they are trying to ask you is "did you eat yet" Or if you over hear that particular conversation and somebody responds with "no, jew" - simply means "no, did you". Alvie Singer says "hi". |
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I've never spoken to Dave Y, but when I read his posts I "hear" it in
a kind-of Texas "howdy y'awll" kind of accent; don't know why! In my mind he sounds a bit like one of the farmers I used to work with - a wonderful, wonderful man from deep south Texas who emigrated to Australia 40-odd years ago and, if anything, developed an even stronger Texan accent as a result (somewhat like an adopted uncle of mine who lived in South Africa for near-enough to fifty years, but retained the strongest Australian accent you could imagine - kind-of like a slow-talkin' Crocodile Hunter!). Tish whose accent varies depending on the accent of the person I'm talking with, but whose "home" accent is definitely Australian; albeit cityfied Australian. David Yehudah wrote in message ... I grew up in a rural area in the South and had/have a thick Southern accent. To give you an idea, recordings I have heard of my own voice sound just like Chester in the old "Gunsmoke" series. The problem was that I learned to read at an early age and as a result developed a vocabulary and manner of speaking very foreign to my mileiu. The people among which I grew up seemed backward and ignorant, in great part because of the way they speak and partly because of their (as perceived by me) anti-intellectualism (I don't need none of that there fancy-dancy edumacation). It wasn't until years later I discovered to my horror that I sound just like them. L'il Abner would fit right in. I spent twenty years of my life as a young adult in cosmopolitan settings learning to speak English without the crude accent I grew up with only to regain it five minutes after returning to my home town. sigh |
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"Yowie" wrote in message u... "John F. Eldredge" wrote in message ... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 12:35:49 GMT, (JBHajos) wrote: On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 14:51:26 -0600, John F. Eldredge wrote: [1] I was born in Alabama, but moved to Tennessee by age 4, so I don't have that much memory of the local accent. I live in Huntsville, practically Tennessee. You from anywhere near there? Accents are learned, and lost, quickly, especially with the children. My daughter's husband was stationed in England for two years. When they returned to the States, their girls, then 6 and 8, spoke with British words and accents. We were absolutely charmed by it (though at times we did need a bit of interpretation). Sadly, our delight was short-lived. Seems in no time flat it was all totally erased, to be supplanted by the Southern Drawl!!! I was born in Auburn, AL in 1957. We moved to Jackson, TN in 1961, to Nashville, TN in 1963, to Campbellsville, KY in 1970, and back to Nashville in 1976. I have lived in Nashville ever since then. So, I have lived in Nashville for a total of 35 years out of 46, and consider it home. My sister has lived in Richmond, VA for the last 15 years or so, and has started to pick up a noticeable Tidewater accent. My family emmigrated from England to Australia when I was four and a half. I don't have much of an accent [1], but my parents retain theres, at least to the ears of Aussies. But when they go back to England, the English swear that they ahve Australian accents! Yowie [1] Unless I'm with my parents and have spent a few hours around them, then my accent comes back. Or if I"m really drunk or really angry :-) My family emigrated from Germany to Canada when I was 10. I didn't know a word of English when we first arrived, but got put right into grade 5 at the local elementary school. Didn't take long to learn the language, maybe 6 months for the basics and a year to be fluent. I kept speaking German at home with my parents. Somehow my accent is all screwed up because nobody can guess that I'm from Germany. People are always asking me if I'm from Scotland! LOL! I've never even been anywhere near there, or England or Ireland for that matter. Ah well, things will only get worse after we move to Australia ;-) -- Britta Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's covered in fur! Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album |
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Kreisleriana wrote in message . ..
On 27 Mar 2004 16:58:26 -0800, (Tish S) yodeled: retained the strongest Australian accent you could imagine - kind-of like a slow-talkin' Crocodile Hunter!). Oh God, I have been wishing for years for some croc to get a bite of that guy's legs. He could feed a croc family for weeks. :P I'm with you on that one! Tish whose accent varies depending on the accent of the person I'm talking with, but whose "home" accent is definitely Australian; albeit cityfied Australian. Do you say "Grite Berrieh Reef"? More like grayte barry-arh reef tee hee! Tish Theresa alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/ Single-mindedness is all very well in cows or baboons; in an animal claiming to belong to the same species as Shakespeare it is simply disgraceful. (Aldous Huxley) |
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"Tish S" wrote in message
om... I've never spoken to Dave Y, but when I read his posts I "hear" it in a kind-of Texas "howdy y'awll" kind of accent; don't know why! In my mind he sounds a bit like one of the farmers I used to work with - a wonderful, wonderful man from deep south Texas who emigrated to Australia 40-odd years ago and, if anything, developed an even stronger Texan accent as a result (somewhat like an adopted uncle of mine who lived in South Africa for near-enough to fifty years, but retained the strongest Australian accent you could imagine - kind-of like a slow-talkin' Crocodile Hunter!). Tish whose accent varies depending on the accent of the person I'm talking with, but whose "home" accent is definitely Australian; albeit cityfied Australian. You as well? There are some posters here I read with an "accent" and then eventually I'll get in contact by phone and htey sound *nothing like* the voice in my head that I"ve given them. Your accent, while definatley an Aussie one, sounds a little Melbournian to me, and Flippy sounds *very* Melbournian (which is reassuring, since thats where she is!). Your Dave sounds more "local" to my ears. Yowie |
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Annie Wxill wrote:
For example, the last name Saenz, which I had never seen before, is pronounced as the English word "signs." So, if somebody had a last name that sounded like signs to me, it probably was spelled Saenz. I would think Saenz would sound more like "science". As I learned it, the z in Spanish is pronounced like an s - not vocalized. Also, the "ae" combination is actually two syllables. (Was there an accent over the a?) But you lived there, I didn't, so maybe in that part of the country, it's different from what I learned in Spanish class. Joyce |
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