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Animals,most if not all,DO experience emotion but certainly not in a way we
as humans understand.Same goes for humans as people experience the same emotion in different ways,same as any other animal.....No matter how ya slice it,any emotional animal,human or not,still makes a great meal under the right circumstance. Glen (not Gay) -- I was an only child.....eventually! dh@. wrote in message ... On Thu, 05 May 2005 21:03:59 GMT, Rudy Canoza wrote: wrote: Yes they can. I did write that, and it's true. You write lots of ****, virtually all of it false. You ****ing bonehead. Animals experience disappointment Goo. Almost any child with a dog could tell you about it. It doesn't mean that all animals can, but it does mean some of them can. Sad you're not able to understand that. One absurd "reason" you feel that life isn't worthy of consideration for any animals, is because you don't feel that they are capable of experiencing positive emotions to the degree that their lives could be worthy of consideration. But even though your prize argument --that imaginary nonexistent entities can not benefit--is true, there is much evidence that humans are capable of experiencing positive emotions to the degree that their lives are a benefit to them. And Goobernad, even though you can't understand it, the same is true for some animals too. |
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gay merrington wrote:
Animals,most if not all,DO experience emotion but certainly not in a way we as humans understand. Primitive emotions: fear, aggression, anger. They do NOT experience disappointment, dashed hope, envy, Schadenfreude, exultance, pride. Humans *project* those emotions onto animals, because those are the emotions humans might feel if they had been in some situation in which they see animals. Same goes for humans as people experience the same emotion in different ways,same as any other animal.....No matter how ya slice it,any emotional animal,human or not,still makes a great meal under the right circumstance. Glen (not Gay) |
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Rudy Canoza wrote: gay merrington wrote: Animals,most if not all,DO experience emotion but certainly not in a way we as humans understand. Primitive emotions: fear, aggression, anger. They do NOT experience disappointment, dashed hope, envy, Schadenfreude, exultance, pride. Humans *project* those emotions onto animals, because those are the emotions humans might feel if they had been in some situation in which they see animals. In fact no other humans experience those emotions either, only Rudy. Humans *project* Rudy's emotions onto each other, because those are the emotions Rudy might feel if he had been in some situation in which we see each other. |
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On 18 May 2005 12:01:13 -0700, "Rudy Canoza" wrote:
wrote: Rudy Canoza wrote: gay merrington wrote: Animals,most if not all,DO experience emotion but certainly not in a way we as humans understand. Primitive emotions: fear, aggression, anger. They do NOT experience disappointment, dashed hope, envy, Schadenfreude, exultance, pride. Humans *project* those emotions onto animals, because those are the emotions humans might feel if they had been in some situation in which they see animals. In fact no other humans experience those emotions either, only Rudy. Humans *project* Rudy's emotions onto each other, because those are the emotions Rudy might feel if he had been in some situation in which we see each other. Not an adult response. That's the point Goo. Yours was stupid, ignorant, and childish, so he mimicked you. It's pretty funny, but you don't get it. |
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On Wed, 18 May 2005 14:35:37 GMT, Rudy Canoza wrote:
gay merrington wrote: Animals,most if not all,DO experience emotion but certainly not in a way we as humans understand. Primitive emotions: fear, aggression, anger. They do NOT experience disappointment, dashed hope, envy, Schadenfreude, exultance, pride. What do you think prevents them from experiencing simple things like that Goo? As yet we have no reason to believe they can't experience pride just as well as anger, or envy, or fear. So it is up to YOU to explain what causes the limitation, or we will have proof once again you don't have the slightest clue what you're trying to discuss. |
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dh@. wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2005 14:35:37 GMT, Rudy Canoza wrote: gay merrington wrote: Animals,most if not all,DO experience emotion but certainly not in a way we as humans understand. Primitive emotions: fear, aggression, anger. They do NOT experience disappointment, dashed hope, envy, Schadenfreude, exultance, pride. What do you think prevents them from experiencing simple things like that? I suspect the same thing that keeps them from doing differential calculus or studying philosophy, ****wit: the lack of human capacity. As yet we have no reason to believe they can't experience pride just as well as anger, or envy, or fear. Yes, we have ample reason to believe they can't experience pride, ****wit - they give no evidence of it. I think you also can't experience it, ****wit, because you have nothing in your life of which to be proud. |
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Rudy Canoza wrote: dh@. wrote: On Wed, 18 May 2005 14:35:37 GMT, Rudy Canoza wrote: gay merrington wrote: Animals,most if not all,DO experience emotion but certainly not in a way we as humans understand. Primitive emotions: fear, aggression, anger. They do NOT experience disappointment, dashed hope, envy, Schadenfreude, exultance, pride. What do you think prevents them from experiencing simple things like that? I suspect the same thing that keeps them from doing differential calculus or studying philosophy, ****wit: the lack of human capacity. So any human can do those things? I know some people who can't even take simple derivatives, is that due to lack of human capacity? As yet we have no reason to believe they can't experience pride just as well as anger, or envy, or fear. Yes, we have ample reason to believe they can't experience pride, ****wit - they give no evidence of it. I think you also can't experience it, ****wit, because you have nothing in your life of which to be proud. Perhaps you have never experienced pride if you cannot recognize it in others. A mother is proud of her offspring, proud of her abilitiy to care for them. A young hunter is proud of its first kill. A male is proud of his sexual prowess. A lion is proud of its pride (duh). A pet is proud when it pleases its master. Some pets are proud to have escaped their masters. I'm proud of you for recogninzing that "pride" refers to an emotional behavior observed in animals. |
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On 20 May 2005 11:16:44 -0700, "Rudy Canoza" wrote:
dh@. wrote: On Wed, 18 May 2005 14:35:37 GMT, Rudy Canoza wrote: gay merrington wrote: Animals,most if not all,DO experience emotion but certainly not in a way we as humans understand. Primitive emotions: fear, aggression, anger. They do NOT experience disappointment, dashed hope, envy, Schadenfreude, exultance, pride. What do you think prevents them from experiencing simple things like that? I suspect the same thing that keeps them from doing differential calculus or studying philosophy, How stupid of you. ****wit: the lack of human capacity. As yet we have no reason to believe they can't experience pride just as well as anger, or envy, or fear. Yes, we have ample reason to believe they can't experience pride, We have none. We have absolutely no reason, and the proof of that is that you can provide absolutely no reason. ****wit - they give no evidence of it. Some of them give plenty of evidence of it. You're just too ignorant to know it, and would be too stupid to recognize it if you saw it. That doesn't mean they're not capable of it, just that you're not capable of recognizing it. But you have never been in a situation where you could recognize it anyway, most likely. So, you have never been in a situation where an animal displayed pride, and if you ever were to be in one you would be unable to recognize it, but still hilariously you are insisting that they aren't capable of it. Not any of them! Gonad, you are a retard. I think you also can't experience it, ****wit, because you have nothing in your life of which to be proud. I can be proud that I have defined you Goo. And a Google search will prove it. I can consider my definition of you to be a part of history. Do a Google search for you: Results 1 - 2 of 2 for goobernicus. (0.44 seconds) and the number one result is me defining you: Animals cannot be disappointed. .... Goobernicus Gonad says that Darwin was projecting. This is classic! ... You are Goobernicus Gonad. You "think" you are a genius ... www.pet-manual.co.uk/showthread/t-36756.html - 83k - |
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