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Old June 23rd 03, 01:21 AM
Cheryl
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Cat Protector wrote:
Apparently none of you are metaphysical and thinking too human. Do
you fear that my theory might be true. I for one have a relationship
with my cats and have found on many occasions when I try to pick up
my cat Jade and kiss her on the head or hug her, she meows as if to
state "oh come on daddy, not again, I am an adult kitty here." I
think you here need to think outside the lines and put away your
human way of thinking and actually talk to your cats.



Re-read your post and come back and tell us you're not a fruitcake.
If you can't come to that conclusion, read it again.

Here's a clue. You seem to put human emotions on cats yet you say you
pick up Jade and kiss her on the head and she meows and calls you
daddy and says she's an adult. What if she is saying "get the ****
off me, you idiot!"? How would you know that?

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Old June 23rd 03, 05:38 AM
Karen M.
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Cheryl wrote:
Cat Protector wrote:

Apparently none of you are metaphysical and thinking too human. Do
you fear that my theory might be true. I for one have a relationship
with my cats and have found on many occasions when I try to pick up
my cat Jade and kiss her on the head or hug her, she meows as if to
state "oh come on daddy, not again, I am an adult kitty here." I
think you here need to think outside the lines and put away your
human way of thinking and actually talk to your cats.




Re-read your post and come back and tell us you're not a fruitcake.
If you can't come to that conclusion, read it again.

Here's a clue. You seem to put human emotions on cats yet you say you
pick up Jade and kiss her on the head and she meows and calls you
daddy and says she's an adult. What if she is saying "get the ****
off me, you idiot!"? How would you know that?

[rpca removed from froup list]



OMG, Cheryl - I almost peed my pants! High five to you!

K

  #3  
Old June 23rd 03, 05:38 AM
Karen M.
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Cheryl wrote:
Cat Protector wrote:

Apparently none of you are metaphysical and thinking too human. Do
you fear that my theory might be true. I for one have a relationship
with my cats and have found on many occasions when I try to pick up
my cat Jade and kiss her on the head or hug her, she meows as if to
state "oh come on daddy, not again, I am an adult kitty here." I
think you here need to think outside the lines and put away your
human way of thinking and actually talk to your cats.




Re-read your post and come back and tell us you're not a fruitcake.
If you can't come to that conclusion, read it again.

Here's a clue. You seem to put human emotions on cats yet you say you
pick up Jade and kiss her on the head and she meows and calls you
daddy and says she's an adult. What if she is saying "get the ****
off me, you idiot!"? How would you know that?

[rpca removed from froup list]



OMG, Cheryl - I almost peed my pants! High five to you!

K

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Old June 23rd 03, 06:51 AM
Cat Protector
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Cheryl,

I think you fear the truth. It certainly seems like it if you have to resort
to name calling or other colorful metaphores in order to drive your point.
Once again, how do you know that felines don't have human emotions? I think
Mr. Spock said it best in Star Trek IV when they were trying to ascertain
the meaning of the probe's call when it was causing our planet some problem,
I quote:

Dr McCoy: Oh really? You think that it is its way of saying, hi there to the
people of the Earth?"

Spock: "There are other forms of intelligence on Earth Doctor. Only human
arrogance would assume that the message must be meant for man."

What a wise man that Spock is, even though he may be a character on a sci-fi
show/movie. He certainly allowed people to see what a lot of humans consider
impossible. So I feel it is very possible for cats to have our same
emotions.

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"Cheryl" wrote in message
...
Re-read your post and come back and tell us you're not a fruitcake.
If you can't come to that conclusion, read it again.

Here's a clue. You seem to put human emotions on cats yet you say you
pick up Jade and kiss her on the head and she meows and calls you
daddy and says she's an adult. What if she is saying "get the ****
off me, you idiot!"? How would you know that?

[rpca removed from froup list]




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Old June 23rd 03, 06:51 AM
Cat Protector
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Cheryl,

I think you fear the truth. It certainly seems like it if you have to resort
to name calling or other colorful metaphores in order to drive your point.
Once again, how do you know that felines don't have human emotions? I think
Mr. Spock said it best in Star Trek IV when they were trying to ascertain
the meaning of the probe's call when it was causing our planet some problem,
I quote:

Dr McCoy: Oh really? You think that it is its way of saying, hi there to the
people of the Earth?"

Spock: "There are other forms of intelligence on Earth Doctor. Only human
arrogance would assume that the message must be meant for man."

What a wise man that Spock is, even though he may be a character on a sci-fi
show/movie. He certainly allowed people to see what a lot of humans consider
impossible. So I feel it is very possible for cats to have our same
emotions.

--
Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs!
www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek

Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time!
www.catgalaxymedia.com
"Cheryl" wrote in message
...
Re-read your post and come back and tell us you're not a fruitcake.
If you can't come to that conclusion, read it again.

Here's a clue. You seem to put human emotions on cats yet you say you
pick up Jade and kiss her on the head and she meows and calls you
daddy and says she's an adult. What if she is saying "get the ****
off me, you idiot!"? How would you know that?

[rpca removed from froup list]




  #6  
Old June 23rd 03, 09:29 AM
Cat Protector
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Again, I don't see how you can feel emotions are learned when in fact they
just can happen. The human psyche is just that. Yes some things can be
taught like smelling a flower, or tasting food. But pure emotions like love
can't be taught, they simply happen.

You say that "it's not possible that they can feel a learned emotion without
having had the experience that would have taught it. It doesn't work that
way, I don't care what Spock says." Could it be fear that drives your
viewpoint. How do you know what you say is true? It sounds like you are a
being a bit close minded.


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"Agua Girl" wrote in message
t...
First off I am glad you recognize that is a "character" and not a real
person.

Cats can have some of our same emotions but if you know anything
about the human psyche and where we get our emotions (and some how
I am guessing you don't) you would know that most of our emotions
are learned. We aren't born feeling humiliated, greedy, generous,

prideful,
envious..and a whole host of others. Those are emotions that are learned
through the actions and response. Cats do not have the same experiences
we have. The only action/response mechanism to trigger their emotions are
the ones you subject them too. I'm sorry, I love my cat too but it's
not possible that they can feel a learned emotion without having had the
experience that would have taught it. It doesn't work that way, I don't
care
what Spock says.

BTW..this isn't to say that you can't teach your cat to feel
humiliated....but
they dont just feel that way on their own..and neither do people!

AG




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Old June 23rd 03, 09:29 AM
Cat Protector
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Again, I don't see how you can feel emotions are learned when in fact they
just can happen. The human psyche is just that. Yes some things can be
taught like smelling a flower, or tasting food. But pure emotions like love
can't be taught, they simply happen.

You say that "it's not possible that they can feel a learned emotion without
having had the experience that would have taught it. It doesn't work that
way, I don't care what Spock says." Could it be fear that drives your
viewpoint. How do you know what you say is true? It sounds like you are a
being a bit close minded.


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"Agua Girl" wrote in message
t...
First off I am glad you recognize that is a "character" and not a real
person.

Cats can have some of our same emotions but if you know anything
about the human psyche and where we get our emotions (and some how
I am guessing you don't) you would know that most of our emotions
are learned. We aren't born feeling humiliated, greedy, generous,

prideful,
envious..and a whole host of others. Those are emotions that are learned
through the actions and response. Cats do not have the same experiences
we have. The only action/response mechanism to trigger their emotions are
the ones you subject them too. I'm sorry, I love my cat too but it's
not possible that they can feel a learned emotion without having had the
experience that would have taught it. It doesn't work that way, I don't
care
what Spock says.

BTW..this isn't to say that you can't teach your cat to feel
humiliated....but
they dont just feel that way on their own..and neither do people!

AG




  #8  
Old June 23rd 03, 03:31 PM
Agua Girl
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"Cat Protector" wrote in message
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Again, I don't see how you can feel emotions are learned when in fact they
just can happen. The human psyche is just that. Yes some things can be
taught like smelling a flower, or tasting food. But pure emotions like

love
can't be taught, they simply happen.

You say that "it's not possible that they can feel a learned emotion

without
having had the experience that would have taught it. It doesn't work that
way, I don't care what Spock says." Could it be fear that drives your
viewpoint. How do you know what you say is true? It sounds like you are a
being a bit close minded.


I know it as well as I know 2 + 2 is 4. I learned it in college.
This isn't an opinion...it's what is taught The entire medical
community could be wrong. They were wrong about the world
being flat and they think dogs can't see colors
but the pet psychic on tv is always saying this dog or that dog likes
his red blanket. I'm just telling you what is the current
understanding (by the experts, not by me) of how emotions work.
BTW..the TV show merely said there were other forms of intelligence...
didn't say that cats got humiliated when you put on bunny ears.

As an anecdotal example. We had a golden retriever and ever
summer she shed like crazy. We took her to a new groomer who
suggested shaving her (not completely) before shedding season began.
So we agreed. She came out all happy wagging her tail which now
had this ridiculous puff on the end. I took one look at her and freaked...
what had they done to my dog. Tail stopped wagging, confused look...
Groomer and hubby both shushed me at the same time that I realized
what I had done. I immediately told her how gorgeous she looked, how
wonderful the cut was. From then on she happily got that stupid cut
(sans puffy tail) every summer and couldn't be happier. She only knew
to be humiliated or embarrassed by my negative input. She didn't get
embarrassed the moment she was cut..she learned to be by my input.

Get it?

AG


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Old June 23rd 03, 03:31 PM
Agua Girl
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"Cat Protector" wrote in message
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Again, I don't see how you can feel emotions are learned when in fact they
just can happen. The human psyche is just that. Yes some things can be
taught like smelling a flower, or tasting food. But pure emotions like

love
can't be taught, they simply happen.

You say that "it's not possible that they can feel a learned emotion

without
having had the experience that would have taught it. It doesn't work that
way, I don't care what Spock says." Could it be fear that drives your
viewpoint. How do you know what you say is true? It sounds like you are a
being a bit close minded.


I know it as well as I know 2 + 2 is 4. I learned it in college.
This isn't an opinion...it's what is taught The entire medical
community could be wrong. They were wrong about the world
being flat and they think dogs can't see colors
but the pet psychic on tv is always saying this dog or that dog likes
his red blanket. I'm just telling you what is the current
understanding (by the experts, not by me) of how emotions work.
BTW..the TV show merely said there were other forms of intelligence...
didn't say that cats got humiliated when you put on bunny ears.

As an anecdotal example. We had a golden retriever and ever
summer she shed like crazy. We took her to a new groomer who
suggested shaving her (not completely) before shedding season began.
So we agreed. She came out all happy wagging her tail which now
had this ridiculous puff on the end. I took one look at her and freaked...
what had they done to my dog. Tail stopped wagging, confused look...
Groomer and hubby both shushed me at the same time that I realized
what I had done. I immediately told her how gorgeous she looked, how
wonderful the cut was. From then on she happily got that stupid cut
(sans puffy tail) every summer and couldn't be happier. She only knew
to be humiliated or embarrassed by my negative input. She didn't get
embarrassed the moment she was cut..she learned to be by my input.

Get it?

AG


  #10  
Old June 23rd 03, 03:37 PM
Cat Protector
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Isn't it funny that the so-called experts laughed at the notion of the
metaphysical as well. You need to stop thinking so human and expand your
mind.

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"Agua Girl" wrote in message
t...

"Cat Protector" wrote in message


I know it as well as I know 2 + 2 is 4. I learned it in college.
This isn't an opinion...it's what is taught The entire medical
community could be wrong. They were wrong about the world
being flat and they think dogs can't see colors
but the pet psychic on tv is always saying this dog or that dog likes
his red blanket. I'm just telling you what is the current
understanding (by the experts, not by me) of how emotions work.
BTW..the TV show merely said there were other forms of intelligence...
didn't say that cats got humiliated when you put on bunny ears.

As an anecdotal example. We had a golden retriever and ever
summer she shed like crazy. We took her to a new groomer who
suggested shaving her (not completely) before shedding season began.
So we agreed. She came out all happy wagging her tail which now
had this ridiculous puff on the end. I took one look at her and

freaked...
what had they done to my dog. Tail stopped wagging, confused look...
Groomer and hubby both shushed me at the same time that I realized
what I had done. I immediately told her how gorgeous she looked, how
wonderful the cut was. From then on she happily got that stupid cut
(sans puffy tail) every summer and couldn't be happier. She only knew
to be humiliated or embarrassed by my negative input. She didn't get
embarrassed the moment she was cut..she learned to be by my input.

Get it?

AG




 




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