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Old January 4th 04, 05:02 PM
GovtLawyer
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I've followed this debate in many threads across several groups, and there is
one point I have not seen raised.

30 years ago I was coming home from my night job at 4 AM and while walking in
the street (NYC) a dozen blocks from my home, I came across a really friendly
orange tabby. He kept coming up to me and I would walk away, and he would come
back. He was most friendly, obviously people oriented, and in my opinion he
was a housecat who for some reason had been displaced from his house. I took
him home and named him ECO, or ECHO, Eco, short for economics, because I wasn't
sure I could afford to keep him; and, ECHO, because he kept coming back.

Once at my home, Eco seemed restless and he often tried to go out the window to
the fireescape. Once, he jumped across an open window to the windowsill across
an open airshaft. He was stuck there on the ledge and I had to go to the
building next door to bring him in. A couple of weeks later, on Thanksgiving,
1974, my younger brother brought me a kitten, which I named Turkey (after all
it was Thanksgiving). Turkey and Eco lived together for one week before Eco
managed to squeeze through a small opening in the fire escape window, and he
disappeared.

Why am I telling you this? Well, I think Echo was someone's cat from a half
mile away, and I, out of good nature, took him to my home. What was Eco's
original owner thinking when he never returned as he usually did? Why did I
take him if that is what I thought? Well, it is because I didn't know. Maybe
Eco was lost, and needed someone to care for him, he certainly latched on to
me. What happened to him? He certainly wasn't familiar with the new
neighborhood he found himself in.

One of the main reasons I would never let my cat (MY PET, MY COMPANION) out, is
because one day he may not return And, it might not be because he or she was a
victim of a tragedy; perhaps someone like me took him for his own. I'd never
know. I would be left with photos on handbills taped to lamppoles with a LOST
CAT headline.

I think pet owners should understand the difference between wild, feral
animals, and domesticated ones. Our pets need our protection more than they
need to be allowed to roam around at will.

Just my two cents. If you want to see my most recent additions, follow this
link to Mickey & Daisy.

http://hometown.aol.com/borninthebronx/index.html

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Old January 5th 04, 01:01 AM
Linda Terrell
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If you live in an area where, for whatever reason, you feel unable
to
allow a healthy cat its freedom to roam for at least some time each
day (and only you can judge your area) then don't have a cat. To have
a healthy cat, knowing you will keep it in 24/7 marks you are being
cruel, selfish, or both.



Liar!

LT

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Old January 5th 04, 01:01 AM
Linda Terrell
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If you live in an area where, for whatever reason, you feel unable
to
allow a healthy cat its freedom to roam for at least some time each
day (and only you can judge your area) then don't have a cat. To have
a healthy cat, knowing you will keep it in 24/7 marks you are being
cruel, selfish, or both.



Liar!

LT

  #6  
Old January 5th 04, 02:33 AM
GovtLawyer
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If you live in an area where, for whatever reason, you feel unable to
allow a healthy cat its freedom to roam for at least some time each
day (and only you can judge your area) then don't have a cat. To have
a healthy cat, knowing you will keep it in 24/7 marks you are being
cruel, selfish, or both.



I'll agree to the selfish part. Yes, I am selfish. I have decided to take an
animal (in this case two homeless animals from an animal rescue service) and
keep them locked in my home; for my own selfish amusement. They give me a
great deal of enjoyment; they are funny, and warm, and friendly, and in short .
.. . just great to have around. I am keeping them captive, quite possibly
against their will.

In return for their captivity;I feed them better than they would ever eat in
the wild, I take them to an animal doctor on a regular basis and keep them in
better health than they would have in the wild; I keep them warmer or cooler
than they would be in the wild, depending on the season; I keep them away from
predators bigger than they are; I buy products which I know they would like or
would amuse themselves with; and, they will likely live twice as long as they
would in the wild.

NO, I am certainly not cruel! Its funny, but I did not invent the idea of
keeping pets. For all of my years people have kept pets; in fact, they have
been doing it for a very long time. So, I have taken pets which are already on
this earth and made the trade I've outlined above. It would be cruel of me to
let them go out into the city at will, and invariably shorten their lives. It
would also be doubley, no tripley cruel of me to allow them to go into the
night and either get knocked up or do the same to another animal, so the
population of unwanted animals could explode.

So, now that you've taken the liberty to call me selfish and cruel, let me ask
you a question. You sound like an outdoorsman! Do you hunt?

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Old January 5th 04, 02:33 AM
GovtLawyer
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If you live in an area where, for whatever reason, you feel unable to
allow a healthy cat its freedom to roam for at least some time each
day (and only you can judge your area) then don't have a cat. To have
a healthy cat, knowing you will keep it in 24/7 marks you are being
cruel, selfish, or both.



I'll agree to the selfish part. Yes, I am selfish. I have decided to take an
animal (in this case two homeless animals from an animal rescue service) and
keep them locked in my home; for my own selfish amusement. They give me a
great deal of enjoyment; they are funny, and warm, and friendly, and in short .
.. . just great to have around. I am keeping them captive, quite possibly
against their will.

In return for their captivity;I feed them better than they would ever eat in
the wild, I take them to an animal doctor on a regular basis and keep them in
better health than they would have in the wild; I keep them warmer or cooler
than they would be in the wild, depending on the season; I keep them away from
predators bigger than they are; I buy products which I know they would like or
would amuse themselves with; and, they will likely live twice as long as they
would in the wild.

NO, I am certainly not cruel! Its funny, but I did not invent the idea of
keeping pets. For all of my years people have kept pets; in fact, they have
been doing it for a very long time. So, I have taken pets which are already on
this earth and made the trade I've outlined above. It would be cruel of me to
let them go out into the city at will, and invariably shorten their lives. It
would also be doubley, no tripley cruel of me to allow them to go into the
night and either get knocked up or do the same to another animal, so the
population of unwanted animals could explode.

So, now that you've taken the liberty to call me selfish and cruel, let me ask
you a question. You sound like an outdoorsman! Do you hunt?

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Old January 5th 04, 05:26 AM
wumpygirl
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"GovtLawyer" wrote in message
...
If you live in an area where, for whatever reason, you feel unable to
allow a healthy cat its freedom to roam for at least some time each
day (and only you can judge your area) then don't have a cat. To have
a healthy cat, knowing you will keep it in 24/7 marks you are being
cruel, selfish, or both.



I'll agree to the selfish part. Yes, I am selfish. I have decided to

take an
animal (in this case two homeless animals from an animal rescue service)

and
keep them locked in my home; for my own selfish amusement. They give me a
great deal of enjoyment; they are funny, and warm, and friendly, and in

short .
. . just great to have around. I am keeping them captive, quite possibly
against their will.

In return for their captivity;I feed them better than they would ever eat

in
the wild, I take them to an animal doctor on a regular basis and keep them

in
better health than they would have in the wild; I keep them warmer or

cooler
than they would be in the wild, depending on the season; I keep them away

from
predators bigger than they are; I buy products which I know they would

like or
would amuse themselves with; and, they will likely live twice as long as

they
would in the wild.


What does this have to do with cats being allowed to spend some time
outside?

NO, I am certainly not cruel! Its funny, but I did not invent the idea of
keeping pets. For all of my years people have kept pets; in fact, they

have
been doing it for a very long time. So, I have taken pets which are

already on
this earth and made the trade I've outlined above. It would be cruel of

me to
let them go out into the city at will, and invariably shorten their lives.

It
would also be doubley, no tripley cruel of me to allow them to go into the
night and either get knocked up or do the same to another animal, so the
population of unwanted animals could explode.


Sounds to me like you're just looking for an arguement.

So, now that you've taken the liberty to call me selfish and cruel, let me

ask
you a question. You sound like an outdoorsman! Do you hunt?


Bob doesn't need to hunt for total ignorants like yourself.

Do you happen to be into fishing?


  #9  
Old January 5th 04, 05:26 AM
wumpygirl
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"GovtLawyer" wrote in message
...
If you live in an area where, for whatever reason, you feel unable to
allow a healthy cat its freedom to roam for at least some time each
day (and only you can judge your area) then don't have a cat. To have
a healthy cat, knowing you will keep it in 24/7 marks you are being
cruel, selfish, or both.



I'll agree to the selfish part. Yes, I am selfish. I have decided to

take an
animal (in this case two homeless animals from an animal rescue service)

and
keep them locked in my home; for my own selfish amusement. They give me a
great deal of enjoyment; they are funny, and warm, and friendly, and in

short .
. . just great to have around. I am keeping them captive, quite possibly
against their will.

In return for their captivity;I feed them better than they would ever eat

in
the wild, I take them to an animal doctor on a regular basis and keep them

in
better health than they would have in the wild; I keep them warmer or

cooler
than they would be in the wild, depending on the season; I keep them away

from
predators bigger than they are; I buy products which I know they would

like or
would amuse themselves with; and, they will likely live twice as long as

they
would in the wild.


What does this have to do with cats being allowed to spend some time
outside?

NO, I am certainly not cruel! Its funny, but I did not invent the idea of
keeping pets. For all of my years people have kept pets; in fact, they

have
been doing it for a very long time. So, I have taken pets which are

already on
this earth and made the trade I've outlined above. It would be cruel of

me to
let them go out into the city at will, and invariably shorten their lives.

It
would also be doubley, no tripley cruel of me to allow them to go into the
night and either get knocked up or do the same to another animal, so the
population of unwanted animals could explode.


Sounds to me like you're just looking for an arguement.

So, now that you've taken the liberty to call me selfish and cruel, let me

ask
you a question. You sound like an outdoorsman! Do you hunt?


Bob doesn't need to hunt for total ignorants like yourself.

Do you happen to be into fishing?


  #10  
Old January 5th 04, 06:15 AM
Luvskats00
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Don't feed the trolls..they have no brains..and logic is just an undefined word
in the dictionary.
 




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