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Siamese kitten coloring
Does anyone know about siamese kitten coloring? I've read that they are
born white, because their coloring is heat-sensitive. After a while, their points turn darker, and bodies turn creamy-colored. We took in an adult stray cat who was very pregnant. She gave birth last week. Two of the kittens were born cream-colored, one with patches of white on it's back. Yesterday, I noticed their nose leathers and paw pads starting to turn darker, and some hairs on their ears turning dark. The mom is a gray tuxedo cat, I never even considered siamese babies! Are some siamese kittens born cream-colored instead of white? Thanks, Rhonda |
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 20:17:27 GMT, Rhonda
wrote: Does anyone know about siamese kitten coloring? I've read that they are born white, because their coloring is heat-sensitive. After a while, their points turn darker, and bodies turn creamy-colored. We took in an adult stray cat who was very pregnant. She gave birth last week. Two of the kittens were born cream-colored, one with patches of white on it's back. Yesterday, I noticed their nose leathers and paw pads starting to turn darker, and some hairs on their ears turning dark. The mom is a gray tuxedo cat, I never even considered siamese babies! Are some siamese kittens born cream-colored instead of white? Color point marking are not limited to Siamese cats it can crop up any time. It's not even limited to any particular color or range of colors. Ozy (http://www.maem.umr.edu/tdavis/cats/03.jan/ozy.267x400.1.jpg) appears to be a red tabby color point with blue eyes (somewhat imperfect markings to be sure, but that's a better description than anything else.) He's from a litter that included a red tabby male and an apricot female with medium length hair. He's from an inbred farm population that just might have some Tai cat genes (both color point and apricot color can be found there). The marking is a result of temperature sensitive pigments and varies with age and sometimes with the season. The cooler parts are the darkest. T.E.D. - e-mail must contain "T.E.D." or my .sig in the body) |
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 20:17:27 GMT, Rhonda
wrote: Does anyone know about siamese kitten coloring? I've read that they are born white, because their coloring is heat-sensitive. After a while, their points turn darker, and bodies turn creamy-colored. We took in an adult stray cat who was very pregnant. She gave birth last week. Two of the kittens were born cream-colored, one with patches of white on it's back. Yesterday, I noticed their nose leathers and paw pads starting to turn darker, and some hairs on their ears turning dark. The mom is a gray tuxedo cat, I never even considered siamese babies! Are some siamese kittens born cream-colored instead of white? Color point marking are not limited to Siamese cats it can crop up any time. It's not even limited to any particular color or range of colors. Ozy (http://www.maem.umr.edu/tdavis/cats/03.jan/ozy.267x400.1.jpg) appears to be a red tabby color point with blue eyes (somewhat imperfect markings to be sure, but that's a better description than anything else.) He's from a litter that included a red tabby male and an apricot female with medium length hair. He's from an inbred farm population that just might have some Tai cat genes (both color point and apricot color can be found there). The marking is a result of temperature sensitive pigments and varies with age and sometimes with the season. The cooler parts are the darkest. T.E.D. - e-mail must contain "T.E.D." or my .sig in the body) |
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Hi Ted,
Thanks for answering. What a beautiful cat! He is gorgeous. I've been trying to read up on the pointed-coloring on the internet, and sounds like both parents have to have the gene. I was confused because these guys were born cream-colored and getting points, where everything I read said they are born white. Sounds like there are all different combinations of that gene, though. Can't wait to see how these turn out! Thanks for answering. Rhonda Ted Davis wrote: On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 20:17:27 GMT, Rhonda wrote: Color point marking are not limited to Siamese cats it can crop up any time. It's not even limited to any particular color or range of colors. Ozy (http://www.maem.umr.edu/tdavis/cats/03.jan/ozy.267x400.1.jpg) appears to be a red tabby color point with blue eyes (somewhat imperfect markings to be sure, but that's a better description than anything else.) He's from a litter that included a red tabby male and an apricot female with medium length hair. He's from an inbred farm population that just might have some Tai cat genes (both color point and apricot color can be found there). The marking is a result of temperature sensitive pigments and varies with age and sometimes with the season. The cooler parts are the darkest. T.E.D. - e-mail must contain "T.E.D." or my .sig in the body) |
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Hi Ted,
Thanks for answering. What a beautiful cat! He is gorgeous. I've been trying to read up on the pointed-coloring on the internet, and sounds like both parents have to have the gene. I was confused because these guys were born cream-colored and getting points, where everything I read said they are born white. Sounds like there are all different combinations of that gene, though. Can't wait to see how these turn out! Thanks for answering. Rhonda Ted Davis wrote: On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 20:17:27 GMT, Rhonda wrote: Color point marking are not limited to Siamese cats it can crop up any time. It's not even limited to any particular color or range of colors. Ozy (http://www.maem.umr.edu/tdavis/cats/03.jan/ozy.267x400.1.jpg) appears to be a red tabby color point with blue eyes (somewhat imperfect markings to be sure, but that's a better description than anything else.) He's from a litter that included a red tabby male and an apricot female with medium length hair. He's from an inbred farm population that just might have some Tai cat genes (both color point and apricot color can be found there). The marking is a result of temperature sensitive pigments and varies with age and sometimes with the season. The cooler parts are the darkest. T.E.D. - e-mail must contain "T.E.D." or my .sig in the body) |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 16:54:04 GMT, Rhonda
wrote: Thanks for answering. What a beautiful cat! He is gorgeous. Around here he has a lot of competition for best looking: Fleagor, Maryweather, and Snowball are all in contention with him - Maryweather is so pretty I use a picture of her in a pile of dry leaves as wallpaper, and as the title picture on my cat pictures page (http://www.maem.umr.edu/tdavis/cats/index.html). Of course, all eleven of them are pretty at times - depends on which ones are being most affectionate or doing the cutest things. T.E.D. - e-mail must contain "T.E.D." or my .sig in the body) |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 16:54:04 GMT, Rhonda
wrote: Thanks for answering. What a beautiful cat! He is gorgeous. Around here he has a lot of competition for best looking: Fleagor, Maryweather, and Snowball are all in contention with him - Maryweather is so pretty I use a picture of her in a pile of dry leaves as wallpaper, and as the title picture on my cat pictures page (http://www.maem.umr.edu/tdavis/cats/index.html). Of course, all eleven of them are pretty at times - depends on which ones are being most affectionate or doing the cutest things. T.E.D. - e-mail must contain "T.E.D." or my .sig in the body) |
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On 2004-04-24 13:17:27 -0700, Rhonda said:
Does anyone know about siamese kitten coloring? I've read that they are born white, because their coloring is heat-sensitive. After a while, their points turn darker, and bodies turn creamy-colored. Pretty much... the gene is actually an alternative version of the albino gene. Since it's a recessive gene, a cat needs to have two copies of the color point gene to have siamese markings. It is temperature sensitive, so they will get darker in the winter and lighter in the summer. I just got a Birman lookalike at the rescue shelter. I don't think Ming is really a Birman, his hair is too short, but he has the color points and four white feet. He had a pretty bad case of ringworm which we treated and is now cleared up. The spots where the hair is growing back is coming in dark, because the bald areas are a cooler temperature. As the fur gets longer, it should lighten again. We took in an adult stray cat who was very pregnant. She gave birth last week. Two of the kittens were born cream-colored, one with patches of white on it's back. Yesterday, I noticed their nose leathers and paw pads starting to turn darker, and some hairs on their ears turning dark. The mom is a gray tuxedo cat, I never even considered siamese babies! If mom has a single copy of the gene, she wouldn't show it. If she mated with a male who has two copies (he has siamese markings) or who has only one (he wouldn't show the markings, but he can pass the one copy on), the kittens can end up with two copies- one from mom, one from dad, and they would show the markings. Are some siamese kittens born cream-colored instead of white? Since the siamese gene is essentially laid over the top of whatever other color genes the cat has, if the cat would otherwise be dark (seal points are a siamese OVER a black cat), the body can be creamy rather than pure white. Thanks, Rhonda Katrina -- |
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On 2004-04-24 13:17:27 -0700, Rhonda said:
Does anyone know about siamese kitten coloring? I've read that they are born white, because their coloring is heat-sensitive. After a while, their points turn darker, and bodies turn creamy-colored. Pretty much... the gene is actually an alternative version of the albino gene. Since it's a recessive gene, a cat needs to have two copies of the color point gene to have siamese markings. It is temperature sensitive, so they will get darker in the winter and lighter in the summer. I just got a Birman lookalike at the rescue shelter. I don't think Ming is really a Birman, his hair is too short, but he has the color points and four white feet. He had a pretty bad case of ringworm which we treated and is now cleared up. The spots where the hair is growing back is coming in dark, because the bald areas are a cooler temperature. As the fur gets longer, it should lighten again. We took in an adult stray cat who was very pregnant. She gave birth last week. Two of the kittens were born cream-colored, one with patches of white on it's back. Yesterday, I noticed their nose leathers and paw pads starting to turn darker, and some hairs on their ears turning dark. The mom is a gray tuxedo cat, I never even considered siamese babies! If mom has a single copy of the gene, she wouldn't show it. If she mated with a male who has two copies (he has siamese markings) or who has only one (he wouldn't show the markings, but he can pass the one copy on), the kittens can end up with two copies- one from mom, one from dad, and they would show the markings. Are some siamese kittens born cream-colored instead of white? Since the siamese gene is essentially laid over the top of whatever other color genes the cat has, if the cat would otherwise be dark (seal points are a siamese OVER a black cat), the body can be creamy rather than pure white. Thanks, Rhonda Katrina -- |
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