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still straining in litterbox
Hi,
I picked up Elwood yesterday from the vet. They said he urinated on his own, but was still straining so they prescibed him Valium to help with the pain. He is eating & drinking but still having a hard time in the box. He goes in and makes a grunting sound, and very small amounts of urine come out. I can tell it is starting to get to him, and I really don't want him to stress himself out and get a block again. Is this to be expected during recovery? Is it normal to prescribe Vlium for this? He is also on an antibiotic, and an optional appetite stimulant. |
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Justin is it valium or diazepam the generic form for it. How much is the
dosage? I wonder if the vet knows that it can cause problems urinating. I have a cat on diazepam 2mg x2 a day for epilepsy. Valium is a drug that has to be careful monitored in cats it can cause liver dysfunction and kidney damage. Full blood works are needed often specially liver enzymes test valium side effects More Common Side Effects: Drowsiness, fatigue, light headedness, loss of muscle coordination. Less Common Side Effects: Anxiety, blurred vision, changes in salivation, changes in sex drive, confusion, constipation, depression, difficulty urinating, dizziness, double vision, hallucinations, headache, inability to hold urine, low blood pressure, nausea, over stimulation, seizures, skin rash rage, sleep disturbances, slow heartbeat, slurred speech, tremors dizziness, yellowing of skin and eyes. the generic form diazepam have about the same side effects "Justin L" wrote in message ... Hi, I picked up Elwood yesterday from the vet. They said he urinated on his own, but was still straining so they prescibed him Valium to help with the pain. He is eating & drinking but still having a hard time in the box. He goes in and makes a grunting sound, and very small amounts of urine come out. I can tell it is starting to get to him, and I really don't want him to stress himself out and get a block again. Is this to be expected during recovery? Is it normal to prescribe Vlium for this? He is also on an antibiotic, and an optional appetite stimulant. |
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On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 19:35:47 GMT, "No More Retail"
wrote: Justin is it valium or diazepam the generic form for it. How much is the dosage? She told me it was Valium, but the pill bottle says Diazepam. I have to give him 1/2 pill three times a day. The pills are 2 mg. doses. Thanks for the side effects, I wonder if the vet even knows this.. I wonder if the vet knows that it can cause problems urinating. I have a cat on diazepam 2mg x2 a day for epilepsy. Valium is a drug that has to be careful monitored in cats it can cause liver dysfunction and kidney damage. Full blood works are needed often specially liver enzymes test valium side effects More Common Side Effects: Drowsiness, fatigue, light headedness, loss of muscle coordination. Less Common Side Effects: Anxiety, blurred vision, changes in salivation, changes in sex drive, confusion, constipation, depression, difficulty urinating, dizziness, double vision, hallucinations, headache, inability to hold urine, low blood pressure, nausea, over stimulation, seizures, skin rash rage, sleep disturbances, slow heartbeat, slurred speech, tremors dizziness, yellowing of skin and eyes. the generic form diazepam have about the same side effects "Justin L" wrote in message .. . Hi, I picked up Elwood yesterday from the vet. They said he urinated on his own, but was still straining so they prescibed him Valium to help with the pain. He is eating & drinking but still having a hard time in the box. He goes in and makes a grunting sound, and very small amounts of urine come out. I can tell it is starting to get to him, and I really don't want him to stress himself out and get a block again. Is this to be expected during recovery? Is it normal to prescribe Vlium for this? He is also on an antibiotic, and an optional appetite stimulant. |
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what antibiotics and appetite stimulant both those can have major side
effect "Justin L" wrote in message ... On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 19:35:47 GMT, "No More Retail" wrote: Justin is it valium or diazepam the generic form for it. How much is the dosage? She told me it was Valium, but the pill bottle says Diazepam. I have to give him 1/2 pill three times a day. The pills are 2 mg. doses. Thanks for the side effects, I wonder if the vet even knows this.. I wonder if the vet knows that it can cause problems urinating. I have a cat on diazepam 2mg x2 a day for epilepsy. Valium is a drug that has to be careful monitored in cats it can cause liver dysfunction and kidney damage. Full blood works are needed often specially liver enzymes test valium side effects More Common Side Effects: Drowsiness, fatigue, light headedness, loss of muscle coordination. Less Common Side Effects: Anxiety, blurred vision, changes in salivation, changes in sex drive, confusion, constipation, depression, difficulty urinating, dizziness, double vision, hallucinations, headache, inability to hold urine, low blood pressure, nausea, over stimulation, seizures, skin rash rage, sleep disturbances, slow heartbeat, slurred speech, tremors dizziness, yellowing of skin and eyes. the generic form diazepam have about the same side effects "Justin L" wrote in message . .. Hi, I picked up Elwood yesterday from the vet. They said he urinated on his own, but was still straining so they prescibed him Valium to help with the pain. He is eating & drinking but still having a hard time in the box. He goes in and makes a grunting sound, and very small amounts of urine come out. I can tell it is starting to get to him, and I really don't want him to stress himself out and get a block again. Is this to be expected during recovery? Is it normal to prescribe Vlium for this? He is also on an antibiotic, and an optional appetite stimulant. |
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On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 20:51:48 GMT, "No More Retail"
wrote: what antibiotics and appetite stimulant both those can have major side effect The antibiotic says Amoxi-tabs, and the appetite stimulant is Cyproheptadime. I have not given him the appetite stimulant because he is eating good. "Justin L" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 19:35:47 GMT, "No More Retail" wrote: Justin is it valium or diazepam the generic form for it. How much is the dosage? She told me it was Valium, but the pill bottle says Diazepam. I have to give him 1/2 pill three times a day. The pills are 2 mg. doses. Thanks for the side effects, I wonder if the vet even knows this.. I wonder if the vet knows that it can cause problems urinating. I have a cat on diazepam 2mg x2 a day for epilepsy. Valium is a drug that has to be careful monitored in cats it can cause liver dysfunction and kidney damage. Full blood works are needed often specially liver enzymes test valium side effects More Common Side Effects: Drowsiness, fatigue, light headedness, loss of muscle coordination. Less Common Side Effects: Anxiety, blurred vision, changes in salivation, changes in sex drive, confusion, constipation, depression, difficulty urinating, dizziness, double vision, hallucinations, headache, inability to hold urine, low blood pressure, nausea, over stimulation, seizures, skin rash rage, sleep disturbances, slow heartbeat, slurred speech, tremors dizziness, yellowing of skin and eyes. the generic form diazepam have about the same side effects "Justin L" wrote in message ... Hi, I picked up Elwood yesterday from the vet. They said he urinated on his own, but was still straining so they prescibed him Valium to help with the pain. He is eating & drinking but still having a hard time in the box. He goes in and makes a grunting sound, and very small amounts of urine come out. I can tell it is starting to get to him, and I really don't want him to stress himself out and get a block again. Is this to be expected during recovery? Is it normal to prescribe Vlium for this? He is also on an antibiotic, and an optional appetite stimulant. |
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another name for Amoxicillin
http://www.pfizerah.com/PAHimages/co...compliance.pdf diazepam http://www.animalhelp.com/pets/rxdetail.cfm?drug=245 I would make a phone call back to the vet tomorrow and let him know the kitten is still having problems. Is the cats stomach area bloated where it may feel like the bladder is over full. I am wondering if they did not get all the blockage out or it might have reoccurred "Justin L" wrote in message ... On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 20:51:48 GMT, "No More Retail" wrote: what antibiotics and appetite stimulant both those can have major side effect The antibiotic says Amoxi-tabs, and the appetite stimulant is Cyproheptadime. I have not given him the appetite stimulant because he is eating good. "Justin L" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 19:35:47 GMT, "No More Retail" wrote: Justin is it valium or diazepam the generic form for it. How much is the dosage? She told me it was Valium, but the pill bottle says Diazepam. I have to give him 1/2 pill three times a day. The pills are 2 mg. doses. Thanks for the side effects, I wonder if the vet even knows this.. I wonder if the vet knows that it can cause problems urinating. I have a cat on diazepam 2mg x2 a day for epilepsy. Valium is a drug that has to be careful monitored in cats it can cause liver dysfunction and kidney damage. Full blood works are needed often specially liver enzymes test valium side effects More Common Side Effects: Drowsiness, fatigue, light headedness, loss of muscle coordination. Less Common Side Effects: Anxiety, blurred vision, changes in salivation, changes in sex drive, confusion, constipation, depression, difficulty urinating, dizziness, double vision, hallucinations, headache, inability to hold urine, low blood pressure, nausea, over stimulation, seizures, skin rash rage, sleep disturbances, slow heartbeat, slurred speech, tremors dizziness, yellowing of skin and eyes. the generic form diazepam have about the same side effects "Justin L" wrote in message m... Hi, I picked up Elwood yesterday from the vet. They said he urinated on his own, but was still straining so they prescibed him Valium to help with the pain. He is eating & drinking but still having a hard time in the box. He goes in and makes a grunting sound, and very small amounts of urine come out. I can tell it is starting to get to him, and I really don't want him to stress himself out and get a block again. Is this to be expected during recovery? Is it normal to prescribe Vlium for this? He is also on an antibiotic, and an optional appetite stimulant. |
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Justin L wrote: Is this to be expected during recovery? Is it normal to prescribe Vlium for this? He is also on an antibiotic, and an optional appetite stimulant. give your cat a warm enema |
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On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 21:39:06 GMT, "No More Retail"
wrote: another name for Amoxicillin http://www.pfizerah.com/PAHimages/co...compliance.pdf diazepam http://www.animalhelp.com/pets/rxdetail.cfm?drug=245 I would make a phone call back to the vet tomorrow and let him know the kitten is still having problems. Yes, I plan on it. Is the cats stomach area bloated where it may feel like the bladder is over full. It doesn't feel too bad too me, but I am not a vet. The good news is that he is cheerful and affectionate (except when he tries using the litter box) So I am hoping he is just a little uncomfortable and nothing serious. What bugs me is not knowing what is going on. snip |
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Justin L wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 21:39:06 GMT, "No More Retail" wrote: another name for Amoxicillin http://www.pfizerah.com/PAHimages/co...compliance.pdf diazepam http://www.animalhelp.com/pets/rxdetail.cfm?drug=245 I would make a phone call back to the vet tomorrow and let him know the kitten is still having problems. Yes, I plan on it. sorry, I misunderstood, he's having a wee wee problem best to ya's! |
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still straining in litterbox
"Justin L" wrote in message ... Hi, I picked up Elwood yesterday from the vet. They said he urinated on his own, but was still straining so they prescibed him Valium to help with the pain. He is eating & drinking but still having a hard time in the box. He goes in and makes a grunting sound, and very small amounts of urine come out. I can tell it is starting to get to him, and I really don't want him to stress himself out and get a block again. Is this to be expected during recovery? Two of the possible complications of a urinary tract obstruction are urethral damage or spasms and/or damage to the bladder detrusor muscle from overdistention. When the bladder becomes overdistended and remains stretched for any length of time the tight junctions between the muscle fibers loosen up and separate a little. These little gaps between the muscle fibers interrupt the wave of motor nerve impulses across the bladder wall that control bladder contraction. So, even though the obstruction has been removed, the cat can't voluntarily contract his bladder and urinate. One way to determine if the detrusor muscle has been damaged is by expressing the bladder manually (don't do it yourself - ask your vet show you how). If he has a good urine stream when his bladder is expressed, that means he doesn't have any outflow obstructions and his urethra is intact and that his problem urinating is probably the result of a damaged detrusor muscle. If the stream is weak he could still have a partial obstruction (or recurrence) or urethral spasms. Unless the bladder was severely overdistended for any length of time, the tight junctions between the muscle fibers should tighten up and return to normal and he should be able to contract his bladder and urinate on his own again. I don't know how long it will take before he's urinating normally because I don't *if* or how badly the detrusor muscle has been damaged. *If* the detrusor muscle has been damaged, you're probably going to have to keep his bladder empty so that the tight junctions can reform- which means either expressing his bladder manually or using a urinary catheter. Both carry risks: catheterization can damage the urethra and/or cause inflammation and dysuria as well as introduce bacteria into the urinary tract. Expressing the bladder can also damage the bladder. The vet must be sure that the bladder wall is intact before applying pressure. Is it normal to prescribe Vlium for this? Yes- because valium seems to help relieve urethral spasms which are fairly common after the removal of an urethral obstruction. That might be all that's necessary- I sure hope so- even though I don't like to use valium in cats because it can crash a cat's liver. If his urethra is intact and he doesn't have spasms or a partial obstruction, and his urine stream is strong when his bladder is expressed, you might want to speak to your vet bethanechol- it increases detrusor muscle tone. I'm not crazy about bethanechol but it does work and its immeasurably less stressful for the cat. Bethanechol seems to work much better if therapy is begun after a few days of keeping the bladder empty- at least that was my impression with our cats. He is also on an antibiotic, and an optional appetite stimulant. An antibiotic is a good idea since he was probably catheterized. Hang on to the appetite stimulant because if your vet prescribes bethanechol- you're gonna need it. Best of luck, Phil |
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