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Innova and better looking cats
Someone mentioned their cat looked better, nicer fur, using Innova, as
opposed to Science Diet. Since that thread, originally the low phosphorus thread, is way over 100 posts and Google has stopped numbering the posts when being viewed, for the time being, I am starting a new thread if that's okay. If not, not sure what to do, delete the thread? In any case, I have been using Science Diet Light Maintenance with my cat. It controlled the weight very well until she was overfed by some zealots. I did notice that her fur was dryish. So I started giving wet food, primarily Science Diet cans at first, usually the Turkey Entree. And her fur definitely improved. So my immediate conclusion was that dry food was not that great. It is inexpensive and easy but my cat goes after dry food like, oops, need an "as" here since it's a clause, as I go after pretzels. A junk food addiction. She really just likes Science Diet. Next comes Royal Canin Indoor Cat. Last is Purina Weight Management Forumala, for dry foods. For her preferences. The Purina is fabulous since she does not like it - she will eat it but more slowly so her weight is coming down. The SD Light she loves now. It took a while. She originally loved the original SD non-Light, even when she was a feral. But even as a feral, she was always rather civilized and dignified so that's curious. I cannot find any evidence that she was ever domesticated. But when I took her in and gave her a litter box, she used it immediately, so I am baffled as to her history. The neighbors told me they could not entice her inside. She was too skittish. I'm not quite sure why she let me kidnap, rather, catnap her. |
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Hmmm, I wouldn't think there would be all that much difference between
Innova and California Natural -- they're made by the same company. I chose California Natural because it has fewer ingredients and we have some cats with sensitive stomachs. Having gone through heck in the past with one cat with IBD/pancreatitus, I thought this might be good for all of them. Rhonda Corey Kaye wrote: For the past 10 years or so, I've always fed ultra-premium. That includes California Naturals, Wellness, Innova and Felidae. I had a dog that had MANY allergies, and did very well on Cal Nat, but couldn't tollerate Innova--so I thought Cal Nat was the best, and fed that to my dogs and cats. They looked good, but one cat, Celia, always had a greasy coat with mats. When I brought all of my animals to my mother's house, I noticed Celia's coat lost the grease and the mats. Mom fed Innova. Since then, I've been a big believer in Innova. All the animals improved when I switched to Innova. |
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Rhonda wrote:
Hmmm, I wouldn't think there would be all that much difference between Innova and California Natural -- they're made by the same company. I There is a *huge* difference between those two foods... by the same company. chose California Natural because it has fewer ingredients and we have some cats with sensitive stomachs. Having gone through heck in the past with one cat with IBD/pancreatitus, I thought this might be good for all of them. Rhonda Corey Kaye wrote: For the past 10 years or so, I've always fed ultra-premium. That includes California Naturals, Wellness, Innova and Felidae. I had a dog that had MANY allergies, and did very well on Cal Nat, but couldn't tollerate Innova--so I thought Cal Nat was the best, and fed that to my dogs and cats. They looked good, but one cat, Celia, always had a greasy coat with mats. When I brought all of my animals to my mother's house, I noticed Celia's coat lost the grease and the mats. Mom fed Innova. Since then, I've been a big believer in Innova. All the animals improved when I switched to Innova. |
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Joe Canuck wrote: Rhonda wrote: Hmmm, I wouldn't think there would be all that much difference between Innova and California Natural -- they're made by the same company. I There is a *huge* difference between those two foods... by the same company. Which is? I went to the web site. The phosphorus levels for Innova were 0.90% which is a little over the top. I was a bit surprised. But it's not too bad. I like 0.80% max, but 0.90% is okay if everything else is in place? Maybe the phosphorus levels for California Natural are a little lower? |
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Joe Canuck wrote:
Rhonda wrote: Hmmm, I wouldn't think there would be all that much difference between Innova and California Natural -- they're made by the same company. I There is a *huge* difference between those two foods... by the same company. Okay, go ahead. I'm listening... Rhonda |
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Rhonda wrote: Joe Canuck wrote: Rhonda wrote: Hmmm, I wouldn't think there would be all that much difference between Innova and California Natural -- they're made by the same company. I There is a *huge* difference between those two foods... by the same company. Okay, go ahead. I'm listening... Rhonda Say it ain't so, Joe. Forgive me, I couldn't help it. For those who don't know, that was what the little boy said to Shoeless Joe Jackson about fixing the World Series of Baseball in 1919. Four score and seven years ago... and I don't even watch baseball. All those men running around with clubs, shouting at each other. Is that not what cats do - minus the bats and balls? I just can't get the cat to run the bases. No more uniforms for her. |
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Rhonda wrote:
Joe Canuck wrote: Rhonda wrote: Hmmm, I wouldn't think there would be all that much difference between Innova and California Natural -- they're made by the same company. I There is a *huge* difference between those two foods... by the same company. Okay, go ahead. I'm listening... Rhonda The differences are pretty much in plain sight and can be figured out with information from the Natura site. Some items to lead you in the right direction... -Caloric content per given volume of Innova is much higher. I'd be a little concerned about weight gain particularly if free feeding. -Ingredient list of Innova pretty much reads like a human meal, not all cats can adapt to this with sometimes the result being voluminous eliminations and odor that can peel paint. -There are differences with respect to the nutritional analysis which you have already noted, specifically with respect to phosphorous. Neither one is really great; however, California Natural is better. -Natura push the notion of "human grade"; however, there is no such thing as "human grade". That is designed to appeal more to the human purchasing the food rather than the specific nutritional needs to the cat consuming it. Note, I'm not saying it is bad food. |
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"Joe Canuck" wrote in message ... Rhonda wrote: Joe Canuck wrote: Rhonda wrote: Hmmm, I wouldn't think there would be all that much difference between Innova and California Natural -- they're made by the same company. I There is a *huge* difference between those two foods... by the same company. Okay, go ahead. I'm listening... Rhonda The differences are pretty much in plain sight and can be figured out with information from the Natura site. Some items to lead you in the right direction... -Caloric content per given volume of Innova is much higher. I'd be a little concerned about weight gain particularly if free feeding. -Ingredient list of Innova pretty much reads like a human meal, not all cats can adapt to this with sometimes the result being voluminous eliminations and odor that can peel paint. -There are differences with respect to the nutritional analysis which you have already noted, specifically with respect to phosphorous. Neither one is really great; however, California Natural is better. -Natura push the notion of "human grade"; however, there is no such thing as "human grade". That is designed to appeal more to the human purchasing the food rather than the specific nutritional needs to the cat consuming it. Good summary. One more point- Innova swapped grains for potatoes-- which have a higher glycemic index. This could be problem for some cats- especially diabetic and pre-diabetic cats. |
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Phil P. wrote:
"Joe Canuck" wrote in message ... Rhonda wrote: Joe Canuck wrote: Rhonda wrote: Hmmm, I wouldn't think there would be all that much difference between Innova and California Natural -- they're made by the same company. I There is a *huge* difference between those two foods... by the same company. Okay, go ahead. I'm listening... Rhonda The differences are pretty much in plain sight and can be figured out with information from the Natura site. Some items to lead you in the right direction... -Caloric content per given volume of Innova is much higher. I'd be a little concerned about weight gain particularly if free feeding. -Ingredient list of Innova pretty much reads like a human meal, not all cats can adapt to this with sometimes the result being voluminous eliminations and odor that can peel paint. -There are differences with respect to the nutritional analysis which you have already noted, specifically with respect to phosphorous. Neither one is really great; however, California Natural is better. -Natura push the notion of "human grade"; however, there is no such thing as "human grade". That is designed to appeal more to the human purchasing the food rather than the specific nutritional needs to the cat consuming it. Good summary. One more point- Innova swapped grains for potatoes-- which have a higher glycemic index. This could be problem for some cats- especially diabetic and pre-diabetic cats. Yep, good point. ....and, as you know I used to be a big fan of California Natural. But with all the moving around I've done in the last few years obtaining that food became very troublesome and I was starting to question whether it was really worth it given some of your comments in this group. I also didn't want to be constantly switching food on Molly. So I decided to switch to a food that is available everywhere, including northern Quebec... Science Diet. Molly has been doing quite well on the Chicken & Rice dry formula I have been feeding. I'd like to try moving her over to canned one more time... but I'll wait until my personal situation stabilizes somewhat before attempting that. I'm not even sure her digestive tract can tolerate the canned given the troubles she had the last time I tried it. I still feel guilty for subjecting her to all that messiness... even though she loves canned. I can still remember her desperately tryna clean her rear... then finally looking up at me with eyes that I'm sure said "Help!". |
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