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semi-regular but infrequent vomiting of bile
My adult cat has been vomiting bile on a regular basis for several months,
but not frequently. He will do it a few times in as many days and then stop for a few weeks. Then the cycle repeats. My soon-to-be-ex-vet wasn't concerned, said it was probably from a change in diet... even though it doesn't seem to correllate with the change in diet, but I suppose it could be related. Rudy is back on his old food, as I now keep him away from the kitten food and he has absolutely no interest in the wet food--he just licks it happily, and leaves it uneaten. So the bile Rudy vomits is pure bile, no undigested food, no hair balls, nothing else. He is overweight (currently weighs 12 lbs, should weigh 9 lbs). He is on a diet, but we're taking it slow. His fur is shiney, his eyes are bright, and he is super affectionate. The only possible change is that he seems to be sleeping a lot more than he did before, but I'm not even sure about that. Any ideas on what might be going on, if anything? I will of course be asking our new vet about this once we get one, and I'll have a full blood panel run even though he's only 3. -- Lynne "Every once in a while, the tables are turned and we get to share our lives with an animal who takes care of their human." - Tara, rpdb |
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semi-regular but infrequent vomiting of bile
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-- Lynne "Every once in a while, the tables are turned and we get to share our lives with an animal who takes care of their human." - Tara, rpdb |
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semi-regular but infrequent vomiting of bile
Lynne wrote: My adult cat has been vomiting bile on a regular basis for several months, but not frequently. He will do it a few times in as many days and then stop for a few weeks. Then the cycle repeats. My soon-to-be-ex-vet wasn't concerned, said it was probably from a change in diet... even though it doesn't seem to correllate with the change in diet, but I suppose it could be related. Rudy is back on his old food, as I now keep him away from the kitten food and he has absolutely no interest in the wet food--he just licks it happily, and leaves it uneaten. So the bile Rudy vomits is pure bile, no undigested food, no hair balls, nothing else. He is overweight (currently weighs 12 lbs, should weigh 9 lbs). He is on a diet, but we're taking it slow. His fur is shiney, his eyes are bright, and he is super affectionate. The only possible change is that he seems to be sleeping a lot more than he did before, but I'm not even sure about that. Any ideas on what might be going on, if anything? I will of course be asking our new vet about this once we get one, and I'll have a full blood panel run even though he's only 3. Hi Lynne: I don't know the answer to this question in absolute terms for cats, but in humans I can tell you that regular occurence of bile in vomit is a sign of bowel obstruction until proven otherwise. The fact that it comes and goes suggests it is not emergent total obstruction, but rather something that might be occuring and recurring. I think you've taken the appropriate steps in getting a new vet, that's for sure. If there is some reason why this rule does not apply to cats, I would very much like to hear back from you (and your new vet) as to why that is. Bile should never have reason to backflow into the stomach, there is a pyloric sphincter there that should prevent it, unless there are serious motility problems lower down the tract. Good luck, and hope the new vet comes through. --tension |
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semi-regular but infrequent vomiting of bile
Lynne wrote: anyone? My cat does this prior to hacking a big hairball. I think the hair makes him gag and vomit - and he is prone to soft blockages of hair in the intestines. If your cat is otherwise healthy, I wouldn't be *too* concerned, but keep an eye on it intake and output, and make sure to give him hairball preventative if you can. -L. |
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semi-regular but infrequent vomiting of bile
on Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:13:57 GMT, "-L." wrote:
My cat does this prior to hacking a big hairball. I think the hair makes him gag and vomit - and he is prone to soft blockages of hair in the intestines. If your cat is otherwise healthy, I wouldn't be *too* concerned, but keep an eye on it intake and output, and make sure to give him hairball preventative if you can. Since he *never* hacks up hairballs, maybe they are backing up in his intestines? That would have never occurred to me. Thank you! -- Lynne |
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semi-regular but infrequent vomiting of bile
on Mon, 13 Nov 2006 05:40:52 GMT, "tension_on_the_wire"
wrote: I don't know the answer to this question in absolute terms for cats, but in humans I can tell you that regular occurence of bile in vomit is a sign of bowel obstruction until proven otherwise. The fact that it comes and goes suggests it is not emergent total obstruction, but rather something that might be occuring and recurring. I think you've taken the appropriate steps in getting a new vet, that's for sure. I'm thinking maybe hairballs in his intestines, after reading L's post. And I will definitely bring this up with the new vet. Thanks! -- Lynne |
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semi-regular but infrequent vomiting of bile
Lynne - this hairball backing up happened to one of my cats years ago.
He kept losing weight and even the specialist didn't know what was wrong. I let him out in the atrium and he started nibbling on a pine tree and each day - for 13 days - barfed a hairball. After that, he started eating normally and regained the weight. This was before the hairball Temptations, etc. Good luck! Lynne wrote: on Mon, 13 Nov 2006 05:40:52 GMT, "tension_on_the_wire" wrote: I don't know the answer to this question in absolute terms for cats, but in humans I can tell you that regular occurence of bile in vomit is a sign of bowel obstruction until proven otherwise. The fact that it comes and goes suggests it is not emergent total obstruction, but rather something that might be occuring and recurring. I think you've taken the appropriate steps in getting a new vet, that's for sure. I'm thinking maybe hairballs in his intestines, after reading L's post. And I will definitely bring this up with the new vet. Thanks! -- Lynne |
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semi-regular but infrequent vomiting of bile
on Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:15:56 GMT, "Buddy's Mom" wrote:
Lynne - this hairball backing up happened to one of my cats years ago. He kept losing weight and even the specialist didn't know what was wrong. I let him out in the atrium and he started nibbling on a pine tree and each day - for 13 days - barfed a hairball. After that, he started eating normally and regained the weight. This was before the hairball Temptations, etc. Good luck! Well weight loss certainly isn't a problem for Rudy! He's fatfatfat. However, the pattern of his vomiting does suggest a partial blockage from what others have posted, so we're going to start off with regular hairball remedy (luckily he LOVES it). I haven't been giving it to him since he never hacks up hairballs. It never occured to me they could be obstructing his bowels! Hopefully this will help, but I will also consult with a new vet and see what he recommends. I really appreciate everyone's help with this. I hate to think of my little king feeling as bad as he must when he is vomiting bile. I'm also very ****ed that my vet is even more incompetent than I could have imagined... I feel a lot better about what was previously just a gut feeling that I should see another vet. -- Lynne |
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semi-regular but infrequent vomiting of bile
-L. wrote: Lynne wrote: anyone? My cat does this prior to hacking a big hairball. I think the hair makes him gag and vomit - and he is prone to soft blockages of hair in the intestines. If your cat is otherwise healthy, I wouldn't be *too* concerned, but keep an eye on it intake and output, and make sure to give him hairball preventative if you can. -L. Hi -L., how's it going? Did your cat really bring up bile before hurking a hairball? On a regular basis? How dark was the green? or was it just mild lime-colour tainting of regular vomit? I'm still trying to sort out how bad a hairball obstruction can be and still end up puked out, rather than causing a serious or surgical obstruction. TIA --tension |
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