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Old March 20th 07, 08:25 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
James
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Default Might as well just buy the cheap stuff.

Over 40 brands recalled. If they're all made by the same manufacturer
why spend money on brand names?

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Old March 20th 07, 08:27 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Stacey
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Default Might as well just buy the cheap stuff.

From another newsgroup:


No, no, it's a CONTRACT company. They make foods for lots of different
companies, under contract, per the recipe they are given. The foods are
NOT the same. They are just being produced, under different contracts,
from different recipes, at the same place. A lot of human food is made
this way. IE, Coca Cola has contracts with bottling companies that make
Coke, but they also make K Cola for a different customer from a
different recipe.

For some reason people are getting the idea that all foods made at a
contract company are the same food. That's not what a contract company
does.

Stacey

In article . com, James says...

Over 40 brands recalled. If they're all made by the same manufacturer
why spend money on brand names?


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Old March 20th 07, 08:31 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
cindys
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"James" wrote in message
ups.com...
Over 40 brands recalled. If they're all made by the same manufacturer
why spend money on brand names?

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Because all the foods are not necessarily the same. The same manufacturer
could be producing multiple different formulas, some higher end, some lower
end.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.


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Old March 20th 07, 08:32 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Kittie Kat
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Default Might as well just buy the cheap stuff.

On Mar 20, 2:27 pm, Stacey wrote:
From another newsgroup:

No, no, it's a CONTRACT company. They make foods for lots of different
companies, under contract, per the recipe they are given. The foods are
NOT the same. They are just being produced, under different contracts,
from different recipes, at the same place. A lot of human food is made
this way. IE, Coca Cola has contracts with bottling companies that make
Coke, but they also make K Cola for a different customer from a
different recipe.

For some reason people are getting the idea that all foods made at a
contract company are the same food. That's not what a contract company
does.

Stacey

In article . com, James says...



Over 40 brands recalled. If they're all made by the same manufacturer
why spend money on brand names?


But if they contract out to a company, then they will be held
responsible if they choose a company - like Menu Foods - that buys
crap to save a buck and ends up selling poison.

I don't give a damn if it's pet food or chicken noodle soup.

I'm done with all the companies that have used Menu Foods, even if in
the end it means I have to start cooking chickens every ****ing day
and feeding my cats cooked chicken.

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Old March 20th 07, 08:55 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Lis
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Default Might as well just buy the cheap stuff.

On Mar 20, 3:32 pm, "Kittie Kat" wrote:
On Mar 20, 2:27 pm, Stacey wrote:





From another newsgroup:


No, no, it's a CONTRACT company. They make foods for lots of different
companies, under contract, per the recipe they are given. The foods are
NOT the same. They are just being produced, under different contracts,
from different recipes, at the same place. A lot of human food is made
this way. IE, Coca Cola has contracts with bottling companies that make
Coke, but they also make K Cola for a different customer from a
different recipe.


For some reason people are getting the idea that all foods made at a
contract company are the same food. That's not what a contract company
does.


Stacey


In article . com, James says...


Over 40 brands recalled. If they're all made by the same manufacturer
why spend money on brand names?


But if they contract out to a company, then they will be held
responsible if they choose a company - like Menu Foods - that buys
crap to save a buck and ends up selling poison.

I don't give a damn if it's pet food or chicken noodle soup.


Um, yah, but the thing is, Menu Foods has up to now been a reliable
supplier of foods that were safe and met the companies'
specifications. There may be an issue with how frequently and by what
methods they quality-tested what they received from Menu, but it's
important to remember that NO method will completely eliminate all
possibility of problems.

I'm done with all the companies that have used Menu Foods, even if in
the end it means I have to start cooking chickens every ****ing day
and feeding my cats cooked chicken.


This makes no sense. Pressuring them to drop Menu NOW, sure; issuing a
commercial "death penalty" for having trusted a supplier who has
previously always been reliable is nuts. And unless you're prepared to
feed your cat whole ground mouse, you're going to have a tough time
putting together a diet for her that's as balanced and complete as a
premium commercial food.

Lis

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Old March 20th 07, 10:17 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Default Might as well just buy the cheap stuff.

On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:25:37 -0700, James wrote:

Over 40 brands recalled. If they're all made by the same manufacturer why
spend money on brand names?



Re-read the information. They are "contract" producers and produce
formulas provided by their purchasers. So they are NOT all the same. MLB
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Old March 21st 07, 07:39 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Patty
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Default Might as well just buy the cheap stuff.

On 20 Mar 2007 12:55:39 -0700, Lis wrote:


This makes no sense. Pressuring them to drop Menu NOW, sure; issuing a
commercial "death penalty" for having trusted a supplier who has
previously always been reliable is nuts. And unless you're prepared to
feed your cat whole ground mouse, you're going to have a tough time
putting together a diet for her that's as balanced and complete as a
premium commercial food.

Lis


I've always wondered about this. My Rusty was a born hunter, having been
descended from generations of farm cats, and he always preferred what he
caught to any canned or bagged food on the market. That said, he is now
16, a wee bit slow on his feet so he doesn't catch what he hunts so much
anymore (when he does hunt). Anyhow, until this point in time, he has been
the healthiest of cats even though his diet consisted more of wildlife than
any commercial food product. So, are there better nutrients in wildlife
than say, grocery store chicken? Rusty has never had any problems with
hairballs either, I don't recall him ever throwing any up, and he's a
domestic long hair. I read once that the rougage the big wild cats get
from eating bones and such, takes care of their need for any type of
hairball treatment.

Oh, and he always liked the mice heads best.

Patty
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Old March 21st 07, 11:24 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Spot
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Default Might as well just buy the cheap stuff.

Newsflash it's even the cheap stuff killing the cats. Didn't you notice
that special kitty is on the list it's about as cheap as it gets.

Celeste

"James" wrote in message
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Over 40 brands recalled. If they're all made by the same manufacturer
why spend money on brand names?



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Old March 22nd 07, 12:34 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Default Might as well just buy the cheap stuff.

There are still premium foods that are NOT made by Menu. Wellness and
Innova are two. Also, all of the suspect foods are the meat chunks in
gravy variety and the bad ingredient is wheat gluton.


---MIKE---
In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
(44° 15' N - Elevation 1580')


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Old March 22nd 07, 01:34 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Default Might as well just buy the cheap stuff.

On Wed 21 Mar 2007 07:34:20p, ---MIKE--- wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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There are still premium foods that are NOT made by Menu.
Wellness and Innova are two. Also, all of the suspect foods are
the meat chunks in gravy variety and the bad ingredient is wheat
gluton.


I wouldn't even consider any of the affected foods to be premium. I
don't consider Iams or Eukanuba premium, and Nutro, while maybe it
used to be hasn't been so in a while from what I've read. Wheat
gluton still isn't confirmed as the culprit. And why the hell
aren't they disclosing the supplier name of this so-called tainted
wheat gluton ingredient? Why aren't they standing up to defend
their product? All of this smells highly of fish IMO. One article
I read said that it was cats and dogs participating in a taste test
that died, and early on it was more than the one dog they're now
saying died. There is nothing at all clear yet in this case and it
broke nearly a week ago. No wonder everyone is concerned and
scared.

--
Cheryl


 




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