Understanding cause and effect (and cystitis again, dammit!)

Had this errant thought when I was taking Meep to the vet today...

Fact 1: Cats hide their illnesses as much as they can.
Fact 2: When good cat owners notice their cat is ill, they take the cat
to the vet.

The errant thought I had was, I wonder if domestic cats hide their
illness, not (only) because of some instinctive imperative, but because
they know that if their human(s) notice, they'll be taken to that awful
place where strange-smelling humans do uncomfortable things to them?

Anyway, Woke up early hours to Meep digging. Not unusual, until I heard
her digging again. And again. And again.

Sure enough, despite a diet of half Royal Canin SO, plenty of water all
over the house (which she does drink), glucosamine everyday, and wet
food with added water every night (not anything on the recall list), she
still has blood in her urine today. Damn! She hates pills, but we've
got another 10-day course of antibiotics to suffer through.

Poor kitty. Probably the stress from the move, but she didn't have an
attack when we moved countries, why now, when we only moved a few blocks?

jmc

On Apr 13, 6:42 am, jmc wrote:

Poor kitty. Probably the stress from the move, but she didn't have an
attack when we moved countries, why now, when we only moved a few blocks?

jmc

I agree about cats putting 2 and 2 together.. so they hide their pain.

Meep, where are you getting your water from? you know city and well
water can be very hard. I don't know what all makes water hard.. so Im
guessing, calcium, lime, iron etc...

This happens a lot in humans.

In nature.. cats wouldn't drink that much h2o right? not straight..
but their water comes from eating innards. (which is highly filtered
water).

On Apr 13, 5:42 am, jmc wrote:
Had this errant thought when I was taking Meep to the vet today...

Fact 1: Cats hide their illnesses as much as they can.
Fact 2: When good cat owners notice their cat is ill, they take the cat
to the vet.

The errant thought I had was, I wonder if domestic cats hide their
illness, not (only) because of some instinctive imperative, but because
they know that if their human(s) notice, they'll be taken to that awful
place where strange-smelling humans do uncomfortable things to them?

Anyway, Woke up early hours to Meep digging. Not unusual, until I heard
her digging again. And again. And again.

Sure enough, despite a diet of half Royal Canin SO, plenty of water all
over the house (which she does drink), glucosamine everyday, and wet
food with added water every night (not anything on the recall list), she
still has blood in her urine today. Damn! She hates pills, but we've
got another 10-day course of antibiotics to suffer through.

Poor kitty. Probably the stress from the move, but she didn't have an
attack when we moved countries, why now, when we only moved a few blocks?

jmc

Good thought.....I've read that instinctually they hide illness to
avoid appearing "weak"
as a survival instinct, but it wouldn't surprise me they could do the
same thing to
'avoid a vet trip. Yoda went to the vet last week. After being treated
with the
eye drops just *twice*...he learned to avoid me if I have anything in
my hand.
Hope your kitty improves fast, that surely is very uncomfortable for
her. Barry had a
good thought filtered water. Surely that would be better for the
cats than
tap water.

Sherry

Suddenly, without warning, Barry exclaimed (13-Apr-07 9:20 PM):
On Apr 13, 6:42 am, jmc wrote:

Poor kitty. Probably the stress from the move, but she didn't have an
attack when we moved countries, why now, when we only moved a few blocks?

jmc

I agree about cats putting 2 and 2 together.. so they hide their pain.

Meep, where are you getting your water from? you know city and well
water can be very hard. I don't know what all makes water hard.. so Im
guessing, calcium, lime, iron etc...

This happens a lot in humans.

In nature.. cats wouldn't drink that much h2o right? not straight..
but their water comes from eating innards. (which is highly filtered
water).





All of Meep's water is from Britta filters, because the water here is
extremely hard.

Well, Meep won't touch innards (or even outards), so she's gotta get her
water the hard way; getting enuf water is critical in a cystitis-prone
cat. That's one of my worries - she's been drinking plenty of water -
but still is having problems. She's passive and internalizes stress,
and I think that probably predisposes her to problems.

I drink mostly the Britta water as well, though not always.

jmc

On Apr 14, 2:39 am, jmc wrote:

Well, Meep won't touch innards (or even outards)

Yes, I know Jodi

lol

I eat innards! livers gizzards neck bones, collards etc

I'm sorry it's more of this for her...

why not resolve to change her diet.
her water source and her food. I would. I think you should.

Love deep fried Gizzards. I think I will get some will I spend all day and
night in Tampa and Lakeland today. On the road again ;-)


"Barry" wrote in message
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On Apr 14, 2:39 am, jmc wrote:

Well, Meep won't touch innards (or even outards)

Yes, I know Jodi

lol

I eat innards! livers gizzards neck bones, collards etc

I'm sorry it's more of this for her...

why not resolve to change her diet.
her water source and her food. I would. I think you should.

On Apr 14, 7:03 am, "Matthew" wrote:
On the road again ;-)

Turn the page

On Apr 14, 2:39 am, jmc wrote:

I drink mostly the Britta water as well, though not always.

jmc

Maybe she is deficient in a chemical.

are cystitis crystals water soluble?

try adding some fat to her diet, that's what soap is made of .. fat

this will help clean her pee pee

lol

"Barry" wrote in message
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On Apr 14, 7:03 am, "Matthew" wrote:
On the road again ;-)

Turn the page


That works for a while. But the book eventually comes
to and end, and all you've got is a suckass book full of
very sad pages.

On Apr 14, 12:19 pm, "cybercat" wrote:
"Barry" wrote in message

ups.com...

On Apr 14, 7:03 am, "Matthew" wrote:
On the road again ;-)

Turn the page

That works for a while. But the book eventually comes
to and end, and all you've got is a suckass book full of
very sad pages.

I am so sick of being your bitch, I put up with your ass because I
knew how much pain you we're in! but it's enough!
It's a tall order for a patient muther****er, and I was the closest
thing you are ever going to lay eyes on.