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Need recipe for home-cooked cat food
Hello,
I'm now totally spooked from all the recalls, so I'd like to start making home-cooked food for my cats. I'm looking for recipes for supplements to add to cooked meat. The key word here being "cooked". I know this much: if you're cooking meat for a cat, then they won't get calcium or taurine. You can't feed a cat cooked bones, so you have to add calcium. And I believe the cooking destroys the taurine, so you have to add that back into the food. The problem is, I don't know how *much* to add. I've seen recipes for supplements to add to raw diets, but I wouldn't just swipe those and use them in cooked food, which probably requires different supplements or different proportions of ingredients. I also don't want to buy a commercial supplement prepared especially for cats. The reason is that animal food doesn't have the same regulation or quality control that human food has. This is what I'm trying to get away from! What I want to do is buy the necessary ingredients, all of which are human-grade, and prepare the mix myself. So I need a recipe. What I've discovered in my research is that there are two camps of people who make food for their cats. One group is the people who are highly knowledgeable about cat nutrition, who know exactly what supplements to add to the food, and who feed only raw meat diets to their cats. They grind up raw muscle meat with raw bone, and make sure the cats get heart meat for taurine, and then add some vitamin supplements to make up for body parts the cat might not be getting. All well and good if you want to feed raw meat. But I don't have a meat grinder and I don't want to run out and invest hundreds of dollars in equipment, when I've never even done this before. Isn't there a way to start slowly? Go from canned food to cooked meat, and then, maybe, to raw meat? One step at a time. There are people who cook food for their cats, but those recipes always seem to include grains and vegetables, which cats don't need, and they don't talk about calcium, taurine, vitamin, or fiber supplements at all. Some recipes I've seen even have all these weird spices, like paprika, which I see no reason to give to a cat! I get the feeling that these people have no idea what they're doing, and I don't trust their recipes at all. What I can't find is a well-thought-out recipe of supplements, that I can make myself, that is meant to go with *cooked* meat. I know cooked meat is not considered the very best way of feeding a cat by the top cat nutritionists, but it's still miles better than commercial canned food, which my cats have been living on for years. So I'd be going in the right direction! To recap: I am looking for a recipe for a dietary supplement, made of 100% human-grade ingredients that I can buy at a health food store, which will satisfy a cat's nutritional needs when used with cooked meat. Can someone help? Either with a recipe, or with pointers to good sites (that don't focus totally on raw meat)? Thank you!! And hi to my RPCA buddies who are reading here. Joyce |
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Need recipe for home-cooked cat food
On Sun 06 May 2007 08:15:17p, wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav
: To recap: I am looking for a recipe for a dietary supplement, made of 100% human-grade ingredients that I can buy at a health food store, which will satisfy a cat's nutritional needs when used with cooked meat. Can someone help? Either with a recipe, or with pointers to good sites (that don't focus totally on raw meat)? Thank you!! And hi to my RPCA buddies who are reading here. Hi Joyce! I can't help with a recipe as the one I had was hated by all, but I might be able to give you some pointers. My vet gave me a recipe when Shadow was diagnosed with IBD to make a simple food with limited ingredients. It isn't meant for a full-time diet. What I learned was that you can make a diet with human multi- vitamins but you have to supplement with taurine. Try to find a vitamin that is odorless and tasteless - maybe a liquid. The multi- vitamin I used had a smell to it that I'd think was not acceptable to the cats. I've seen other recipes that use pediatric multivitamins and they *are* liquid. I didn't try that though. This recipe only had ground turkey or chicken, bone meal or calcium, multivitamin, taurine (not necessary for very short term, but long term you'd need it for sure) and water or broth. Lightly brown the meat and add the water/broth and other ingredients. Sorry, can't remember quantities. Again, I think the key is the smell of the stuff. Mine liked it initially but never ate enough for whole meals. I've seen other recipes that include brown rice or oats. What I'd do if I really wanted to make a home-cooked diet was find an expert. Try to consult with a feline nutritionist, and you could probably do that over the phone or email with a minimal charge for their services. Good luck. This whole food recall thing is very scary and I don't blame you for wanting to cook for them yourself. -- Cheryl |
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Need recipe for home-cooked cat food
Cheryl wrote:
Hi Joyce! I can't help with a recipe as the one I had was hated by all, but I might be able to give you some pointers. Well, as we all know, just because some cats hate certain foods, doesn't mean all cats will hate it. In fact, I think we can assume that it means there exists a cat somewhere who will love it. This recipe only had ground turkey or chicken, bone meal or calcium, multivitamin, taurine (not necessary for very short term, but long term you'd need it for sure) and water or broth. Lightly brown the meat and add the water/broth and other ingredients. Sorry, can't remember quantities. That sounds fairly easy. I'd probably add vitamins A, D and E, and some form of fiber, but not digestible grains (or any other carbs). What I'd do if I really wanted to make a home-cooked diet was find an expert. Try to consult with a feline nutritionist, and you could probably do that over the phone or email with a minimal charge for their services. Yes, someone on another forum recommended I email a nutritionist she recommended, so that's on my agenda. Thanks, nice to see you! Joyce |
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Need recipe for home-cooked cat food
On 7 May 2007 22:45:57 GMT, Cheryl
wrote: What I'd do if I really wanted to make a home-cooked diet was find an expert. Try to consult with a feline nutritionist, and you could probably do that over the phone or email with a minimal charge for their services. Good luck. This whole food recall thing is very scary and I don't blame you for wanting to cook for them yourself. A Google search comes with some sites http://www.google.com.au/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&hl=en-GB&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-42,GGLJ:en-GB&q=Homemade+cat+food or http://tinyurl.com/26vs9g Found one site that for US$50 offer consultation from a qualified pet nutritionist (be careful of scammers) Not checked them out http://www.petdiets.com/Library/article.asp?id=119&subid=18&catid=1&num=2 Petzl -- The ONLY email address you will EVER need http://www.spamcop.net/ces/individuals.shtml SpamCop Email service for a spamfree inbox |
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Need recipe for home-cooked cat food
Petzl wrote:
A Google search comes with some sites http://www.google.com.au/search?sour...emade+cat+food Thanks! The Lisa Pierson recipe looks great, but I have a couple of questions. She is assuming that you're grinding up raw meat with the bones, and feeding that to the cat. In my case, I won't be doing that, so I will have to add calcium. But I don't know how much calcium to add! And I'm gathering, from the reading I've done, that it's very important to get it right. Too much or too little calcium, in relation to how much meat there is, could cause problems. This is why I really need to get a recipe for cooked meat. However, many of the cooked meat recipes I've seen online (I did a similar search to the one you have posted here - my terms were "home-cooked" "cat food") are way off-base - full of starch and vegetables, and vegetable oil, plus spices that I can't imagine would appeal or even matter to a cat (eg, paprika - wtf?). I also noticed in Lisa Pierson's recipe that it called for eggs - cooked whites and raw yolks. Basically, a soft-boiled egg. I wonder if a hard- boiled egg would be just as effective? Thanks, Joyce |
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Need recipe for home-cooked cat food
On 7 May, 01:15, wrote:
Hello, I'm now totally spooked from all the recalls, so I'd like to start making home-cooked food for my cats. I'm looking for recipes for supplements to add to cooked meat. The key word here being "cooked". I know this much: if you're cooking meat for a cat, then they won't get calcium or taurine. You can't feed a cat cooked bones, so you have to add calcium. And I believe the cooking destroys the taurine, so you have to add that back into the food. The problem is, I don't know how *much* to add. I've seen recipes for supplements to add to raw diets, but I wouldn't just swipe those and use them in cooked food, which probably requires different supplements or different proportions of ingredients. I also don't want to buy a commercial supplement prepared especially for cats. The reason is that animal food doesn't have the same regulation or quality control that human food has. This is what I'm trying to get away from! What I want to do is buy the necessary ingredients, all of which are human-grade, and prepare the mix myself. So I need a recipe. What I've discovered in my research is that there are two camps of people who make food for their cats. One group is the people who are highly knowledgeable about cat nutrition, who know exactly what supplements to add to the food, and who feed only raw meat diets to their cats. They grind up raw muscle meat with raw bone, and make sure the cats get heart meat for taurine, and then add some vitamin supplements to make up for body parts the cat might not be getting. All well and good if you want to feed raw meat. But I don't have a meat grinder and I don't want to run out and invest hundreds of dollars in equipment, when I've never even done this before. Isn't there a way to start slowly? Go from canned food to cooked meat, and then, maybe, to raw meat? One step at a time. There are people who cook food for their cats, but those recipes always seem to include grains and vegetables, which cats don't need, and they don't talk about calcium, taurine, vitamin, or fiber supplements at all. Some recipes I've seen even have all these weird spices, like paprika, which I see no reason to give to a cat! I get the feeling that these people have no idea what they're doing, and I don't trust their recipes at all. What I can't find is a well-thought-out recipe of supplements, that I can make myself, that is meant to go with *cooked* meat. I know cooked meat is not considered the very best way of feeding a cat by the top cat nutritionists, but it's still miles better than commercial canned food, which my cats have been living on for years. So I'd be going in the right direction! To recap: I am looking for a recipe for a dietary supplement, made of 100% human-grade ingredients that I can buy at a health food store, which will satisfy a cat's nutritional needs when used with cooked meat. Can someone help? Either with a recipe, or with pointers to good sites (that don't focus totally on raw meat)? Thank you!! And hi to my RPCA buddies who are reading here. Joyce Hi Joyce, Here are a few idea's that I found by googling. you might have already found them, but if not, they might come in handy http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...e+Search&meta= Good Luck, S;o) |
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Need recipe for home-cooked cat food
On 7 May, 01:15, wrote:
Hello, I'm now totally spooked from all the recalls, so I'd like to start making home-cooked food for my cats. I'm looking for recipes for supplements to add to cooked meat. The key word here being "cooked". I know this much: if you're cooking meat for a cat, then they won't get calcium or taurine. You can't feed a cat cooked bones, so you have to add calcium. And I believe the cooking destroys the taurine, so you have to add that back into the food. The problem is, I don't know how *much* to add. I've seen recipes for supplements to add to raw diets, but I wouldn't just swipe those and use them in cooked food, which probably requires different supplements or different proportions of ingredients. I also don't want to buy a commercial supplement prepared especially for cats. The reason is that animal food doesn't have the same regulation or quality control that human food has. This is what I'm trying to get away from! What I want to do is buy the necessary ingredients, all of which are human-grade, and prepare the mix myself. So I need a recipe. What I've discovered in my research is that there are two camps of people who make food for their cats. One group is the people who are highly knowledgeable about cat nutrition, who know exactly what supplements to add to the food, and who feed only raw meat diets to their cats. They grind up raw muscle meat with raw bone, and make sure the cats get heart meat for taurine, and then add some vitamin supplements to make up for body parts the cat might not be getting. All well and good if you want to feed raw meat. But I don't have a meat grinder and I don't want to run out and invest hundreds of dollars in equipment, when I've never even done this before. Isn't there a way to start slowly? Go from canned food to cooked meat, and then, maybe, to raw meat? One step at a time. There are people who cook food for their cats, but those recipes always seem to include grains and vegetables, which cats don't need, and they don't talk about calcium, taurine, vitamin, or fiber supplements at all. Some recipes I've seen even have all these weird spices, like paprika, which I see no reason to give to a cat! I get the feeling that these people have no idea what they're doing, and I don't trust their recipes at all. What I can't find is a well-thought-out recipe of supplements, that I can make myself, that is meant to go with *cooked* meat. I know cooked meat is not considered the very best way of feeding a cat by the top cat nutritionists, but it's still miles better than commercial canned food, which my cats have been living on for years. So I'd be going in the right direction! To recap: I am looking for a recipe for a dietary supplement, made of 100% human-grade ingredients that I can buy at a health food store, which will satisfy a cat's nutritional needs when used with cooked meat. Can someone help? Either with a recipe, or with pointers to good sites (that don't focus totally on raw meat)? Thank you!! And hi to my RPCA buddies who are reading here. Joyce OOP's, Wrong page, this one is a bit better.. Sorry about that S;o) http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...ecipes&spell=1 |
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