Urinating problem

Hi everyone,

I am hoping that you kind newsgroup members can help me establish why my cat
is urinaiting like she is. She is about 2.5 years old, is very much a
domestic cat and there is always a clean litter tray doen for her to use. I
have 2 cats, they wer sisters and have lived together all their lives. I
have had them about 2 years now.

The problem is, she likes to urinate in the house, standing and spraying
against furniture, walls, plastic bags, the fridge, DVD cases.. really
doesn't seem bothered at all! I have recently replaced a stinky carpet in my
living room for wood floor and she has, just this afternoon, urinated on the
side of a clean, dry cardboard box which has run onto my nice new floor. It
is really frustrating me!

I do occasionally see her using the litter tray but I rarely see her trying
to cover anything up, although I do ocaasionally see or hear her scratching
against the floor and then I know what she has just done!

They can go outside and I leave my door open most of the day to allow that,
but today, the door was left open and she chose to urinate inside on the
cardboard box.

Please help, I don't know what to do. She is such a loving, soft hearted
creature, really beautiful natured but has this horrible habit. I don't know
where to start. I use catsan litter. The other cat uses the tray or goes
outside, no problem at all. I have had many cats over the years and have
never seen this in a cat before.

I would massively appreciate any advice you could give me.

Many thanks for your time,
David

As the other poster said, she MUST be checked out by a vet for a urinary
tract infection firstly.
Gail
"Dave" wrote in message
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Hi everyone,

I am hoping that you kind newsgroup members can help me establish why my
cat is urinaiting like she is. She is about 2.5 years old, is very much a
domestic cat and there is always a clean litter tray doen for her to use.
I have 2 cats, they wer sisters and have lived together all their lives. I
have had them about 2 years now.

The problem is, she likes to urinate in the house, standing and spraying
against furniture, walls, plastic bags, the fridge, DVD cases.. really
doesn't seem bothered at all! I have recently replaced a stinky carpet in
my living room for wood floor and she has, just this afternoon, urinated
on the side of a clean, dry cardboard box which has run onto my nice new
floor. It is really frustrating me!

I do occasionally see her using the litter tray but I rarely see her
trying to cover anything up, although I do ocaasionally see or hear her
scratching against the floor and then I know what she has just done!

They can go outside and I leave my door open most of the day to allow
that, but today, the door was left open and she chose to urinate inside on
the cardboard box.

Please help, I don't know what to do. She is such a loving, soft hearted
creature, really beautiful natured but has this horrible habit. I don't
know where to start. I use catsan litter. The other cat uses the tray or
goes outside, no problem at all. I have had many cats over the years and
have never seen this in a cat before.

I would massively appreciate any advice you could give me.

Many thanks for your time,
David

Hi Matthew, many thanks. Please see my replies below:

Is she neutered? Is the other?
Both are neutered

Have you seen a vet lately and asked their advice? Also to rule out
possible medical problems. - Medial problems have to be ruled out before
behavioral problems can be addressed
I haven't.. pitiful excuse but i'm so busy.. but sounds like I will have to
make some time like I just have done to post this today!


Is she going in the same spots or is it different every time?
Different spots. I bleach the kitchen floor and the wood floor is so new as
I said, only been down a few days.
If she is going in the same spots. Have you really cleaned the area not
just with over the counter products but with commercial cleaners?
Can you recommend anything for a wood floor, carpet and vinyl?
If it is behavioral several things could be going on. One is you leave
your door open all day.
I am normally working in the daytime so they are outside 9-6pm then outside
in the evening of I go out too.. I have no catflap.

I believe you are in the UK
Yes I am

if you were in the USA I could tell you something maybe getting into your
house and leaving a scent that she is marking over. It could be other
cats. I don't see others coming in. Generally the outside door is closed
although one cat does come in occasionally but only for a minute or two to
pinch food.. not enough time for it to urinate before I chase it out, I
don't think so anyway. And the other cat has never been in my living room
where she was urinating most.

Once you rule out medical problems you can use something called feliway
it helps with unwanted markings.
Ah, I'll look that up.

Also you removed the carpet and underneath is a wood floor. No, it was a
concrete floor which had a carpet underlay then carpet on. I have ripped
up the carpet and underlay, then put a new underlay down and new wood
floor on top.

Cat urine will
soak all the way thru into the concrete below and you would have to ripped
up the floor. You can use a black light to see where she has marked and
you don't see also

Is that like you get in a night club which makes your white clothes glow?


Hopes this helps a little

That does help very much, I really appreciate that advice.. If you can offer
anything else that would be appreciated. As my cat has been doing this for
months, do you feel it could still be a medical problem? If so I feel really
bad to have had her suffering...

Many thanks,
David

"Dave" wrote in message
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Hi everyone,

I am hoping that you kind newsgroup members can help me establish why my
cat is urinaiting like she is. She is about 2.5 years old, is very much a
domestic cat and there is always a clean litter tray doen for her to use.
I have 2 cats, they wer sisters and have lived together all their lives.
I have had them about 2 years now.

The problem is, she likes to urinate in the house, standing and spraying
against furniture, walls, plastic bags, the fridge, DVD cases.. really
doesn't seem bothered at all! I have recently replaced a stinky carpet in
my living room for wood floor and she has, just this afternoon, urinated
on the side of a clean, dry cardboard box which has run onto my nice new
floor. It is really frustrating me!

I do occasionally see her using the litter tray but I rarely see her
trying to cover anything up, although I do ocaasionally see or hear her
scratching against the floor and then I know what she has just done!

They can go outside and I leave my door open most of the day to allow
that, but today, the door was left open and she chose to urinate inside
on the cardboard box.

Please help, I don't know what to do. She is such a loving, soft hearted
creature, really beautiful natured but has this horrible habit. I don't
know where to start. I use catsan litter. The other cat uses the tray or
goes outside, no problem at all. I have had many cats over the years and
have never seen this in a cat before.

I would massively appreciate any advice you could give me.

Many thanks for your time,
David

"Gail" wrote in message ...
As the other poster said, she MUST be checked out by a vet for a urinary
tract infection firstly.

Thank you Gail, for the very quick advice. I will speak to my vets and get
her looked at.

Many thanks
David

On 10 Sep, 15:57, "Dave" wrote:
Hi everyone,

I am hoping that you kind newsgroup members can help me establish why my cat
is urinaiting like she is. She is about 2.5 years old, is very much a
domestic cat and there is always a clean litter tray doen for her to use. I
have 2 cats, they wer sisters and have lived together all their lives. I
have had them about 2 years now.

The problem is, she likes to urinate in the house, standing and spraying
against furniture, walls, plastic bags, the fridge, DVD cases.. really
doesn't seem bothered at all! I have recently replaced a stinky carpet in my
living room for wood floor and she has, just this afternoon, urinated on the
side of a clean, dry cardboard box which has run onto my nice new floor. It
is really frustrating me!

I do occasionally see her using the litter tray but I rarely see her trying
to cover anything up, although I do ocaasionally see or hear her scratching
against the floor and then I know what she has just done!

They can go outside and I leave my door open most of the day to allow that,
but today, the door was left open and she chose to urinate inside on the
cardboard box.

Please help, I don't know what to do. She is such a loving, soft hearted
creature, really beautiful natured but has this horrible habit. I don't know
where to start. I use catsan litter. The other cat uses the tray or goes
outside, no problem at all. I have had many cats over the years and have
never seen this in a cat before.

I would massively appreciate any advice you could give me.

Many thanks for your time,
David

I'm not a betting person, but having said that, my bet is that she
either is not spayed, which is why she is leaving her smell to be
found by male cats who happen to be passing.. or, it is behavioural.
Mind you, behavioural means anything from not spaying her, to her
covering prior residents smells so that every cat in the area knows
that it is her area now!!
Of course, the other notable obvious reason is that she might have a
UTI. Only a vet can exclude that possibility, so best get her there
asap, & if it is a urinary infection, then he/ she can treat it.


Good Luck Dave,
Sheelagh "o"

"Dave" wrote in message
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That does help very much, I really appreciate that advice.. If you can
offer anything else that would be appreciated. As my cat has been doing
this for months, do you feel it could still be a medical problem? If so I
feel really bad to have had her suffering...

Not to make you feel any worse, but to let you know it's pretty urgent to
see a vet... Women get UTIs (urinary tract infections) fairly often. A UTI
is one of the most painful ailments I've ever had. As soon as I feel one
coming on I got *straight* to the doctor because I know I'll be in a *LOT*
of pain if I don't.

Hugs,

CatNipped

"Sheelagh o" wrote in message
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I'm not a betting person, but having said that, my bet is that she
either is not spayed, which is why she is leaving her smell to be
found by male cats who happen to be passing..

She was spayed (and her sister) 2 years ago. I got them from a cat rescue
place and they had to be spayed as part of the conditions of owning the
cats.
or, it is behavioural.
Mind you, behavioural means anything from not spaying her, to her
covering prior residents smells so that every cat in the area knows
that it is her area now!!
Of course, the other notable obvious reason is that she might have a
UTI. Only a vet can exclude that possibility, so best get her there
asap, & if it is a urinary infection, then he/ she can treat it.

The UTI is sounding quite likely at the moment, or certainly the first thing
to rule out.
Good Luck Dave,
Sheelagh "o"

Thanks Sheelagh

"CatNipped" wrote in message
...


Not to make you feel any worse, but to let you know it's pretty urgent to
see a vet... Women get UTIs (urinary tract infections) fairly often. A
UTI is one of the most painful ailments I've ever had. As soon as I feel
one coming on I got *straight* to the doctor because I know I'll be in a
*LOT* of pain if I don't.

Hugs,

CatNipped

Oh dear.. you have made me feel worse but that's a *good* thing. I'm gonna
ring the vet right away.

Thank you very much for letting me know that..

David

That's great you're a star Matthew:-) I will take all your points and work
through them.. I want her well first though so I will focus on the infection
possibility.

I've rung the vets you would probably all like to know.. they want me to get
a urine sample.. How the hell do I do that!! Now I want the cat to pee on
the floor... although I chucked some tissue in the bin that I soaked some up
with before!

Seroiusly.. any suggestions would be great.. The vets said they had some
litter which is non absorbent or they could express some from the cat if I
don't manage to get anything... Anyone done it before?

Cheers,
Dave

Seroiusly.. any suggestions would be great.. The vets said they had some
litter which is non absorbent or they could express some from the cat if I
don't manage to get anything... Anyone done it before?

Just to clarify.. I didn't mean done the expressing.. I aint doing that.. I
meant getting a sample..

I read that back and it didn't sound clear.