Is this a decent cat food?

Some of you may already know who makes this. Meep seems to like it, but
I'm looking for opinions on how much better this may be than, say,
Wellness. I like Wellness, but it is rather expensive, especially when
I'm feeding exclusively canned. Not sure what I'm supposed to be looking
for, but I see there's no by-products, the first ingredient is actually
the named ingredient, and it has chicken liver, which Meep adores.

She has no health issues beyond cystitis, which seems well under control
at the moment.

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Trout & Brown Rice
Ingredients: Trout, Chicken Liver, Fish Broth, Chicken, Brown Rice,
Carrots, Egg Product, Sweet Potatoes, Guar Gum, Cranberries,
Blueberries, Ground Flaxseed, Carrageenan, Dried Kelp, DL-Methionine,
Choline Chloride, Sunflower Oil, Potassium Chloride, Taurine, Sodium
Ascorbate (a source of Vitamin C), Iron Proteinate (a source of chelated
Iron), Zinc Proteinate (a source of chelated Zinc), Vitamin E
Supplement, Cobalt Proteinate (a source of chelated Cobalt), Copper
Proteinate (a source of chelated Copper), Manganese Proteinate (a source
of chelated Manganese), Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Niacin, Sodium
Selenite, d-calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Pyridoxine
Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin A Supplement, Potassium
Iodide, Vitamin B12 Supplement, and Biotin.

Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude Protein 10.0% min
Crude Fat 6.0% min
Crude Fiber 1.0% max
Moisture 78.0% max
Ash 2.5% max
Magnesium 0.025% max
Taurine 0.06% min

Feeding Guidelines:
Cat Weight
(lbs) Daily
Feeding
Amount
4 1/2 can
8 1 can
12 1-1/2 cans
16 2 cans

Calorie Content ME
(kcal/kg) = 1265 (calculated)
(kcal/can) = 197

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jmc

"jmc" wrote in message
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Some of you may already know who makes this. Meep seems to like it, but
I'm looking for opinions on how much better this may be than, say,
Wellness. I like Wellness, but it is rather expensive, especially when
I'm feeding exclusively canned. Not sure what I'm supposed to be looking
for, but I see there's no by-products, the first ingredient is actually
the named ingredient, and it has chicken liver, which Meep adores.

She has no health issues beyond cystitis, which seems well under control
at the moment.

---

Trout & Brown Rice
Ingredients: Trout, Chicken Liver, Fish Broth, Chicken, Brown Rice,
Carrots, Egg Product, Sweet Potatoes, Guar Gum, Cranberries, Blueberries,
Ground Flaxseed, Carrageenan, Dried Kelp, DL-Methionine, Choline Chloride,
Sunflower Oil, Potassium Chloride, Taurine, Sodium Ascorbate (a source of
Vitamin C), Iron Proteinate (a source of chelated Iron), Zinc Proteinate
(a source of chelated Zinc), Vitamin E Supplement, Cobalt Proteinate (a
source of chelated Cobalt), Copper Proteinate (a source of chelated
Copper), Manganese Proteinate (a source of chelated Manganese), Thiamine
Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Niacin, Sodium Selenite, d-calcium Pantothenate,
Vitamin D3 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement,
Vitamin A Supplement, Potassium Iodide, Vitamin B12 Supplement, and
Biotin.

Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude Protein 10.0% min
Crude Fat 6.0% min
Crude Fiber 1.0% max
Moisture 78.0% max
Ash 2.5% max
Magnesium 0.025% max
Taurine 0.06% min

Feeding Guidelines:
Cat Weight
(lbs) Daily
Feeding
Amount
4 1/2 can
8 1 can
12 1-1/2 cans
16 2 cans

Calorie Content ME
(kcal/kg) = 1265 (calculated)
(kcal/can) = 197

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jmc

First, I would question the first three items if this is to be a regular
diet. My vet says fish should not be used as a regular part of a cat's
diet. Second, chicken is fine, but chicken liver should not be used as a
frequent part of the diet, especially for a cat that already has cystitis.
Holly and Duffy also love chicken liver. Even though neither has ever had
cystitis or UTI, I will only use it as an occasional treat for them. Be
sure to avoid any products that contain grains.

MaryL

On Sep 30, 5:38*pm, jmc wrote:
Some of you may already know who makes this. *Meep seems to like it, but
I'm looking for opinions on how much better this may be than, say,
Wellness. *I like Wellness, but it is rather expensive, especially when
I'm feeding exclusively canned. Not sure what I'm supposed to be looking
for, but I see there's no by-products, the first ingredient is actually
the named ingredient, and it has chicken liver, which Meep adores.

She has no health issues beyond cystitis, which seems well under control
at the moment.

---

Trout & Brown Rice
Ingredients: Trout, Chicken Liver, Fish Broth, Chicken, Brown Rice,
Carrots, Egg Product, Sweet Potatoes, Guar Gum, Cranberries,
Blueberries, Ground Flaxseed, Carrageenan, Dried Kelp, DL-Methionine,
Choline Chloride, Sunflower Oil, Potassium Chloride, Taurine, Sodium
Ascorbate (a source of Vitamin C), Iron Proteinate (a source of chelated
Iron), Zinc Proteinate (a source of chelated Zinc), Vitamin E
Supplement, Cobalt Proteinate (a source of chelated Cobalt), Copper
Proteinate (a source of chelated Copper), Manganese Proteinate (a source
of chelated Manganese), Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Niacin, Sodium
Selenite, d-calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Pyridoxine
Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin A Supplement, Potassium
Iodide, Vitamin B12 Supplement, and Biotin.

Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude Protein * 10.0% min
Crude Fat * * * 6.0% min
Crude Fiber * * 1.0% max
Moisture * * * *78.0% max
Ash * * 2.5% max
Magnesium * * * 0.025% max
Taurine * * * * 0.06% min

Feeding Guidelines:
Cat Weight
(lbs) * Daily
Feeding
Amount
4 * * * 1/2 can
8 * * * 1 can
12 * * *1-1/2 cans
16 * * *2 cans

Calorie Content ME
(kcal/kg) = 1265 (calculated)
(kcal/can) = 197

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jmc

My cat Snappy has his favorite cans of Wellness and they are the ones
with fish. He doesnt like the ones containing beef it seems. I also
buy the bagged wellness for him. It sure smells fishy and he likes
that as well. His coat is quite shiny and thick now. This summer he
was getting the Science for hairball and his fur really shed like
mad. I kind of like the Wellness food for him but do cats really need
to eat rice, carrots, sweet potatoes, blueberries, and dried kelp?
If left on their own would cats eat those things? Did anyone ever see
a cat on a beach eating seaweed? Once a long time ago, a cat I had
jumped up on the countertop and ate a blanched green pepper that was
left to cool in a collandar. Thats the only time I ever experienced a
cat eat a veggie. When Im having a snack Snappy will eat a crumb of
bread and a bit of cheese just to be nosy but I'm sure he would not
eat a blueberry ever unless it was mushed up in a can with sardines.

Response to honeybunch :

I kind of like the Wellness food for him but do cats really
need
to eat rice, carrots, sweet potatoes, blueberries, and dried
kelp? If left on their own would cats eat those things? Did
anyone ever see a cat on a beach eating seaweed? Once a long
time ago, a cat I had jumped up on the countertop and ate a
blanched green pepper that was left to cool in a collandar.
Thats the only time I ever experienced a cat eat a veggie.

Our newest arrival looking for a good home ate some pear and peach
from a jar out of a bowl my kids left on the table accidentally.

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Suddenly, without warning, -Lost exclaimed (9/30/2008 9:06 PM):
Response to honeybunch :

I kind of like the Wellness food for him but do cats really
need
to eat rice, carrots, sweet potatoes, blueberries, and dried
kelp? If left on their own would cats eat those things? Did
anyone ever see a cat on a beach eating seaweed? Once a long
time ago, a cat I had jumped up on the countertop and ate a
blanched green pepper that was left to cool in a collandar.
Thats the only time I ever experienced a cat eat a veggie.

Our newest arrival looking for a good home ate some pear and peach
from a jar out of a bowl my kids left on the table accidentally.


My first cat liked broccoli. I'm not sure if those things are in there
to make ignorant humans happy "eat your veggies, they're good for you"
or if they're in there for the health benefits. IE, cats may not eat
blueberries, but does the vitamins and antioxidants they have benefit
the cat anyway?

jmc

jmc wrote:

I see there's no by-products, the first ingredient is actually
the named ingredient, and it has chicken liver, which Meep adores.

Just FYI: liver is a by-product.
--

Wayne M.

FWIW, I would avoid feeding fish of any kind, especially with a
cystitis-prone cat. Are you able to find the large cans ( 12.5 oz)?
Those are a much better value per ounce compared to the 5.5 oz "tuna-
size" cans. There's a bit of measuring required, but IMO the savings
are worth it.

Suddenly, without warning, Rene S. exclaimed (10/1/2008 9:07 AM):
FWIW, I would avoid feeding fish of any kind, especially with a
cystitis-prone cat. Are you able to find the large cans ( 12.5 oz)?
Those are a much better value per ounce compared to the 5.5 oz "tuna-
size" cans. There's a bit of measuring required, but IMO the savings
are worth it.

Sadly, the larger cans go to waste. She'll eat the first serving, but
for whatever reason, she won't eat the rest of the can. Surprising,
since she prefers her canned food to be "well ripened" before dining.
She generally won't touch it for some hours. Yea, I know, but if I
don't leave it out, she'll starve. Yes, I tried taking it away after 20
minute, or an hour, or whatever, but the end result was she got skinny.

Sco Meep 1, Mom 0.

jmc

"jmc" wrote in message
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Suddenly, without warning, Rene S. exclaimed (10/1/2008 9:07 AM):
FWIW, I would avoid feeding fish of any kind, especially with a
cystitis-prone cat. Are you able to find the large cans ( 12.5 oz)?
Those are a much better value per ounce compared to the 5.5 oz "tuna-
size" cans. There's a bit of measuring required, but IMO the savings
are worth it.

Sadly, the larger cans go to waste. She'll eat the first serving, but for
whatever reason, she won't eat the rest of the can. Surprising, since she
prefers her canned food to be "well ripened" before dining. She generally
won't touch it for some hours. Yea, I know, but if I don't leave it out,
she'll starve. Yes, I tried taking it away after 20 minute, or an hour,
or whatever, but the end result was she got skinny.

Sco Meep 1, Mom 0.

jmc

Have you tried "gently warming" the refrigerated leftovers? That might help
even if she waits awhile before eating. It enhances the scent, and that may
be more important than the temperature.

MaryL

Wed, 01 Oct 2008 05:20:22 -0400 from jmc
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My first cat liked broccoli.

My first cat, 50 years ago now, liked green beans.

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