who invented these things

Lucy has toxoplasmosis, they've already started her treatment
it's a slow comeback, given it was a slow downhill roll getting this
bad

she's weak
they also blame it for her left eye being dialated

I have to read up on this

I had already bought her a roller skate to get around the house
I think she'll be walking again instead

"bartlet" wrote in message
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Lucy has toxoplasmosis

http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/brochures/toxo.html

If you left her feces around for more than five days, or let Jupiter out
where she could be exposed to it, Jupiter may have it too. You may also have
it but will not produce the oocytes that cause the harm. If any pregnant
women have been exposed to Lucy let them know. Don't ever feed her raw meat
again, or let her out where she can kill anything or come upon a kill.
That's where she got it.

Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:31:06 -0500 from cybercat :

"bartlet" wrote in message
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Lucy has toxoplasmosis

http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/brochures/toxo.html

If you left her feces around for more than five days, or let Jupiter out
where she could be exposed to it, Jupiter may have it too. You may also have
it but will not produce the oocytes that cause the harm. If any pregnant
women have been exposed to Lucy let them know. Don't ever feed her raw meat
again, or let her out where she can kill anything or come upon a kill.
That's where she got it.

Oh -- so you *do* admit that there are some situations where a cat's
natural behavior is not the best thing for it?

So apparently a cat's not supposed to eat raw meat even though that's
what it evolved to do, but it's supposed to eat wet food instead of
dry even though it evolved to eat neither one.

Okaaaaaaayyyyyyy....

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

"Stan Brown" wrote in message
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Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:31:06 -0500 from cybercat :

"bartlet" wrote in message
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Lucy has toxoplasmosis

http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/brochures/toxo.html

If you left her feces around for more than five days, or let Jupiter out
where she could be exposed to it, Jupiter may have it too. You may also
have
it but will not produce the oocytes that cause the harm. If any pregnant
women have been exposed to Lucy let them know. Don't ever feed her raw
meat
again, or let her out where she can kill anything or come upon a kill.
That's where she got it.

Oh -- so you *do* admit that there are some situations where a cat's
natural behavior is not the best thing for it?

So apparently a cat's not supposed to eat raw meat even though that's
what it evolved to do, but it's supposed to eat wet food instead of
dry even though it evolved to eat neither one.

Okaaaaaaayyyyyyy....


You're a moron, Stan. Good luck with that.

"Stan Brown" wrote in message
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Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:31:06 -0500 from cybercat :

"bartlet" wrote in message
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Lucy has toxoplasmosis

http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/brochures/toxo.html

If you left her feces around for more than five days, or let Jupiter out
where she could be exposed to it, Jupiter may have it too. You may also
have
it but will not produce the oocytes that cause the harm. If any pregnant
women have been exposed to Lucy let them know. Don't ever feed her raw
meat
again, or let her out where she can kill anything or come upon a kill.
That's where she got it.

Oh -- so you *do* admit that there are some situations where a cat's
natural behavior is not the best thing for it?

So apparently a cat's not supposed to eat raw meat even though that's
what it evolved to do, but it's supposed to eat wet food instead of
dry even though it evolved to eat neither one.

Okaaaaaaayyyyyyy....

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

Stan Do you know Barry or his situation? The answer is no so this is
where you walk away with some dignity.

She was referring to what he did not the cat species in general

Thu, 5 Feb 2009 23:25:08 -0500 from cybercat :

"Stan Brown" wrote in message
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Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:31:06 -0500 from cybercat :

"bartlet" wrote in message
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Lucy has toxoplasmosis

http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/brochures/toxo.html

If you left her feces around for more than five days, or let Jupiter out
where she could be exposed to it, Jupiter may have it too. You may also
have
it but will not produce the oocytes that cause the harm. If any pregnant
women have been exposed to Lucy let them know. Don't ever feed her raw
meat
again, or let her out where she can kill anything or come upon a kill.
That's where she got it.

Oh -- so you *do* admit that there are some situations where a cat's
natural behavior is not the best thing for it?

So apparently a cat's not supposed to eat raw meat even though that's
what it evolved to do, but it's supposed to eat wet food instead of
dry even though it evolved to eat neither one.

Okaaaaaaayyyyyyy....


You're a moron, Stan. Good luck with that.

Always a pleasure to observe your version of reasoned discussion.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

In article , Stan Brown
wrote:

Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:31:06 -0500 from cybercat :

"bartlet" wrote in message
...
Lucy has toxoplasmosis

http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/brochures/toxo.html

If you left her feces around for more than five days, or let Jupiter out
where she could be exposed to it, Jupiter may have it too. You may also
have
it but will not produce the oocytes that cause the harm. If any pregnant
women have been exposed to Lucy let them know. Don't ever feed her raw meat
again, or let her out where she can kill anything or come upon a kill.
That's where she got it.

Oh -- so you *do* admit that there are some situations where a cat's
natural behavior is not the best thing for it?

So apparently a cat's not supposed to eat raw meat even though that's
what it evolved to do, but it's supposed to eat wet food instead of
dry even though it evolved to eat neither one.

Okaaaaaaayyyyyyy....

If you believe that cats should eat, do, whatever, only what they have
been evolved to do in the wild, then you should not domesticate a cat
or have one in your home. Stay-at-home cats live 3 to 5 times longer
than their indoor/outdoor, outdoor only or feral relatives. Why? Well,
it could be because they are 'not allowed' to eat raw meat which could,
and obviously does cause diseases and problems. Or that they are given
wet or dry nutritionally balance food. Or that they are kept away from
predators and other things that might harm them. I know you're being
sarcastic in your statements, but you raise an interesting subject.

6 Feb 2009 13:41:01 -0600 from Clara Semps :
If you believe that cats should eat, do, whatever, only what they have
been evolved to do in the wild, then you should not domesticate a cat
or have one in your home. Stay-at-home cats live 3 to 5 times longer
than their indoor/outdoor, outdoor only or feral relatives. Why? Well,
it could be because they are 'not allowed' to eat raw meat which could,
and obviously does cause diseases and problems. Or that they are given
wet or dry nutritionally balance food. Or that they are kept away from
predators and other things that might harm them. I know you're being
sarcastic in your statements, but you raise an interesting subject.

This is my point exactly.

For domesticated cats, what they would do in the wild is of some
help, but it is not the argument-ender that certain snippy people
seemed to think.

The same is true of humans, by the way. "Natural" behavior for us is
cowering in trees and eating bugs, but I have no desire to go back to
that and I doubt anyone else does either.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

"Stan Brown" wrote
For domesticated cats, what they would do in the wild is of some
help, but it is not the argument-ender that certain snippy people
seemed to think.

The same is true of humans, by the way. "Natural" behavior for us is
cowering in trees and eating bugs, but I have no desire to go back to
that and I doubt anyone else does either.


Right. So you think this justifies feeding obligate carnivores a diet that
consists mainly of grains.

Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:58:10 -0500 from cyberpurrs
:

"Stan Brown" wrote
For domesticated cats, what they would do in the wild is of some
help, but it is not the argument-ender that certain snippy people
seemed to think.

The same is true of humans, by the way. "Natural" behavior for us is
cowering in trees and eating bugs, but I have no desire to go back to
that and I doubt anyone else does either.


Right. So you think this justifies feeding obligate carnivores a diet that
consists mainly of grains.

Sigh. Some people seem to get a lot of pleasure out of missing the
point.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...