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Covered litter box, love it
I was having trouble with my feral female throwing litter out of
the box. There are plastic grass doormats under the area that catch litter, but the amount was ridiculous. I tried restricting the edges of the box, but she found a way over that. So I went to the local megastore and bought a covered litter box. It looks like a medium-large pet taxi/carrier. That was about six months ago. It is one of those "how did I live without it" things. Even without the excessive litter throwing, I will use one from now on (even if I have to make it). Best $15 I have spent in a long time. The cover must be lifted off of the bottom half every time the litter is scooped, but I removed the snaps since cats do not plow into things, and it stays solidly in place. The fact that the box is bigger and covered means that more litter can be used, so you can scoop the litter less often per day. I think they enjoy having the privacy provided by the big covered box. It is a win win win situation. The one I bought comes with a swinging door, but it was left off since my cats did not like it. I did add another inch strip across the entrance to keep all of the litter in the box, but they easily climb over that to enter the box. The only litter that gets out of the box is the small amount that they track in front of the opening. The product came with a silly charcoal filter fabric of some sort that is supposed to go on the top back part of the box. The claim is that it is supposed to keep odors down, but keeping the odor level down is what regular scooping does. Whatever, you can just throw away the swinging door and the fabric covers. This is the covered litter box, but mine is candy blue and not the sifting type. http://pet.imageg.net/graphics/produ...761238t400.jpg Good luck and have fun. -- FWIW. After two years, my feral female is still afraid to get near people, no touch yet... but my male loves attention more than a puppy, and she gets along with him, so it's all good |
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Hi
cover litter pan is not for every cat. my cat wouldnt used one I was having trouble with my feral female throwing litter out of the box. There are plastic grass doormats under the area th |
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"Linda Boucher" wrote in message ... Hi cover litter pan is not for every cat. my cat wouldnt used one The worst thing about them is they hide the mess so that some people will not clean them as often. And many cats do not like the feeling of being trapped. |
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"cybercat" cyberpurrs yahoo.com wrote:
"Linda Boucher" jlbouch nb.sympatico.ca cover litter pan is not for every cat. Few things are for every cat. my cat wouldnt used one Both of my cats used the covered litter box without hesitation. You might want to elaborate, Linda. Sometimes a detail in a circumstance changes the outcome/behavior (see my original post for a good example of that). Another possibility is not just circumstance, maybe it was reacting to pressure from you. The worst thing about them is they hide the mess My nose works very well, CyberTroll, are you a smoker? And many cats do not like the feeling of being trapped. But of course they are not trapped, CyberTroll. Sounds like CyberTroll is desperate for attention, as usual. Path: news.astraweb.com!border1.newsrouter.astraweb.com! news-out.octanews.net!indigo.octanews.net!news.glorb.co m!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!feeder.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!not-for-mail From: "cybercat" cyberpurrs yahoo.com Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav Subject: Covered litter box, love it Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:12:08 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 13 Message-ID: h5v86s$c3n$1 news.eternal-september.org References: 00c2bf2f$0$12855$c3e8da3 news.astraweb.com 4a8310e0$0$23771$9a566e8b news.aliant.net X-Trace: news.eternal-september.org U2FsdGVkX187I0kjEqq21hL63rPWDw1icF/9JX+nfacp1vai0mKXqqhfrW7MR3dkjHyv03Tns7wgnbdQiXZcI OrCrs8oatFJ/7WjE3xxogeS+wIpH3Erlx5S8Mh5RuNZJDIAvRwNQrDSFHeWJSn OYQ== X-Complaints-To: abuse eternal-september.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:20:44 +0000 (UTC) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX18SmK+bxOdH85AyKCs9zneYrLE/V75Hus1DrPk+3Rsuag== Cancel-Lock: sha1:a1GvG8n4Ee3CEltH7EntBUmHWPs= X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal |
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On 12 Aug 2009 23:12:24 GMT, John Doe wrote:
"cybercat" cyberpurrs yahoo.com wrote: "Linda Boucher" jlbouch nb.sympatico.ca cover litter pan is not for every cat. Few things are for every cat. my cat wouldnt used one Both of my cats used the covered litter box without hesitation. You might want to elaborate, Linda. Sometimes a detail in a circumstance changes the outcome/behavior (see my original post for a good example of that). Another possibility is not just circumstance, maybe it was reacting to pressure from you. The worst thing about them is they hide the mess My nose works very well, CyberTroll, are you a smoker? And many cats do not like the feeling of being trapped. But of course they are not trapped, CyberTroll. Sounds like CyberTroll is desperate for attention, as usual. She's right though. I had a cat who wouldn't use the covered box. I think it's odd because they usually like crawling into little caves and such but they're all so individualistic that it's hard to generalize. Also, while a covered litterbox is nicer for us humans (keeping the elimination products hidden and containing the dust), monitoring the behavior in the litterbox is a clue to your cats health. This is particularly true if you have multiple cats and need to know which one did what. Because Espy has recently had a urine blockage, I need to know if he is peeing regularly. Luckily I only have one box for the three cats so I only have to monitor that one. I set up a cam - here, if you're curious: http://72.229.187.145:81 Log in as User Name viewer with the Password of trendnet - and you can watch the box. Of course, the odds of actually catching a cat in the box is pretty small, so I have motion detection turned on and I view the captures daily to see what I missed live. As of this morning, all three cats had peed within the last 12 hours. Marlo, That Girl, pees much more often than the boys. Surely this is one of the top 10 uses of technology, and wouldn't be possible with a covered box. |
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dgk dgk somewhere.com wrote:
.... She's right though. The "being trapped" is pure bull****. I had a cat who wouldn't use the covered box. Did you leave the door on the box? Again... Both of my cats used the covered box immediately without hesitation. Of course your experience may vary. Also, while a covered litterbox is nicer for us humans (keeping the elimination products hidden The litter tends to keep the excrement hidden, unless you do not scoop regularly or maybe your cat is not covering it. And I have a very sensitive nose that knows when the box needs scooping. and containing the dust), Maybe you did not read my original post, but the greatest benefit by far is with a cat that throws litter all over the place. Anything that makes life easier for the owner and does not cause harm to the animal is beneficial. So far, the covered litter box has made a world of difference with litter box area cleanliness. One of the problem for some might be the work of having to remove the litter box cover when scooping. monitoring the behavior in the litterbox is a clue to your cats health. If you are giving generic advice, you should include this caution... The litter box is a special area. Captive cats are very sensitive around/about the box. Unnecessary attention and or aggravation in the litter box area can cause very unpleasant problems for everyone. Realistically speaking from experience, the litter box area should be a happy place. Here, the extra privacy the covered litter box provides helps with that. While you are monitoring and keeping an eye on the litter box, just be sure you do not cause unnecessary tension, assuming you really want to live with cats. If you, in your individual situation, need to closely monitor the litter box in real time... With the above caution in mind, I would definitely agree that a WebCam would be the best (if not only) proper way to do so. If you are good with such things as WebCams... Do you provide your cats with real live sounds from the great outdoors? It is easy enough in most situations. You simply use an infant room monitor and put the receiver outside. Here, I have the room monitor speaker output connected to an amplified computer speaker to make it sound more realistic. But even the basic setup would be better than nothing. You should introduce the outside sounds very gradually, especially if your cat is used to the deafening silence of an insulated room/house. Having used that method for over a decade, I know that my cats enjoy it. Cats love to use their ears in addition to their eyes/nose. Path: news.astraweb.com!border5.newsrouter.astraweb.com! news.glorb.com!news2.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca.gi ganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giga news.com!backlog2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!news.gigan ews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:05:09 -0500 From: dgk dgk somewhere.com Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav Subject: Covered litter box, love it Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:04:44 -0400 Message-ID: tt2885h2q5eap3didcn2d6d2ch4mvqgheg 4ax.com References: 00c2bf2f$0$12855$c3e8da3 news.astraweb.com 4a8310e0$0$23771$9a566e8b news.aliant.net h5v86s$c3n$1 news.eternal-september.org 003c600e$0$5035$c3e8da3 news.astraweb.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 56 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-rS6QJcLknneenW0pQeKtYx12L2LLvWcq920inrUB+OLPihwkd3 WsvBMPjPCJORtdH/ACzhogd/6heXp!dc8fG0DxQjrPVNTg/5tVy8k2Jy9toX91Ub91AfDwU69OnjrZxPq9TYuzCN2X2lqsOiK c2A== X-Complaints-To: abuse giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.39 X-Original-Bytes: 3371 |
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"dgk" wrote The worst thing about them is they hide the mess My nose works very well, CyberTroll, are you a smoker? And many cats do not like the feeling of being trapped. But of course they are not trapped, CyberTroll. Sounds like CyberTroll is desperate for attention, as usual. She's right though. I had a cat who wouldn't use the covered box. I think it's odd because they usually like crawling into little caves and such but they're all so individualistic that it's hard to generalize. Jesus. Mark Bender aka John Doe waits until his box SMELLS to clean it. I wonder how it smell by then to the cat, who has to venture into the stink to go. Also, while a covered litterbox is nicer for us humans (keeping the elimination products hidden and containing the dust), monitoring the behavior in the litterbox is a clue to your cats health. This is particularly true if you have multiple cats and need to know which one did what. Precisely. |
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On 13 Aug 2009 16:56:34 GMT, John Doe wrote:
Did you leave the door on the box? Again... Both of my cats used the covered box immediately without hesitation. Of course your experience may vary. No, no door. My cats don't seem to like a door. I had to remove the door on the Cat Door into the bedroom and just leave a hole. The litter tends to keep the excrement hidden, unless you do not scoop regularly or maybe your cat is not covering it. And I have a very sensitive nose that knows when the box needs scooping. Three cats, one litterbox; I scoop twice a day. Espy covers everything. Marlo tries but doesn't seem to realize that only the litter in the box can be moved. The side of the tub doesn't count. She mostly misses. Videos of her attempts are pretty funny. Nipsy doesn't even try. **** or poop, he does it and walks away. Maybe you did not read my original post, but the greatest benefit by far is with a cat that throws litter all over the place. Anything that makes life easier for the owner and does not cause harm to the animal is beneficial. So far, the covered litter box has made a world of difference with litter box area cleanliness. No question about that. None of my cats is a real thrower though and the box I has very high sides. It's also in the bathtub so litter that gets out of the box stays in the tub. The dust does get around though. If you are giving generic advice, you should include this caution... The litter box is a special area. Captive cats are very sensitive around/about the box. Unnecessary attention and or aggravation in the litter box area can cause very unpleasant problems for everyone. Realistically speaking from experience, the litter box area should be a happy place. Here, the extra privacy the covered litter box provides helps with that. While you are monitoring and keeping an eye on the litter box, just be sure you do not cause unnecessary tension, assuming you really want to live with cats. I never had a problem, though I've certainly read about plenty on this newsgroup. I know the recommendation is 1 box per cat plus 1 spare, but I get by with just the one. None of the cats seems to care about sharing it so I'm lucky there. Even my deceased furballs had no litterbox issues. If you, in your individual situation, need to closely monitor the litter box in real time... With the above caution in mind, I would definitely agree that a WebCam would be the best (if not only) proper way to do so. If you are good with such things as WebCams... Do you provide your cats with real live sounds from the great outdoors? It is easy enough in most situations. You simply use an infant room monitor and put the receiver outside. Here, I have the room monitor speaker output connected to an amplified computer speaker to make it sound more realistic. But even the basic setup would be better than nothing. You should introduce the outside sounds very gradually, especially if your cat is used to the deafening silence of an insulated room/house. Having used that method for over a decade, I know that my cats enjoy it. Cats love to use their ears in addition to their eyes/nose. I fenced in my little backyard so they can't get out and they spend much of the time outside if I'm home. They also all have RF transmitters on their collars so I can find them. Sometimes it's tough to know if they're in or out, especially during August when everything is overgrown. I use this thing: http://www.amazon.com/Loc8tor-LTD-Lo.../dp/B000YGCO4A |
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Suddenly, without warning, cybercat exclaimed (8/12/2009 4:12 PM):
"Linda Boucher" wrote in message ... Hi cover litter pan is not for every cat. my cat wouldnt used one The worst thing about them is they hide the mess so that some people will not clean them as often. And many cats do not like the feeling of being trapped. I don't think it's being trapped, at least not the cat. As sensitive as a cat's nose is, I would guess the smell of even a frequently cleaned box would be trapped in the box and magnified. My cat would use the covered box (no door), but if I didn't clean it every time she used it (difficult for a working cat mom), she'd either pee out the front door or aim for the crack between the top and bottom. She's also a digger and will dig the entire box of litter onto even a tiny little pee spot. Silly cat! I eventually gave up and found a box with really tall sides but open on the top. Now she rarely pees outside the box while sitting in it (I call it "following the letter but not the spirit of Litterbox Law"), and while she still digs it's not as bad as before - I think the big pile was trying to hide the smell that was concentrated in the covered box. Of course, after that, someone told me they cut an opening in a really big plastic Rubbermaid box and use that and I thought - DOH! What a great idea, and a lot cheaper than the fancy box I have! Meep's next litterbox WILL be a big'ol Rubbermaid storage container jmc |
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"jmc" wrote I don't think it's being trapped, at least not the cat. As sensitive as a cat's nose is, I would guess the smell of even a frequently cleaned box would be trapped in the box and magnified. I agree. But as clean as they are, the smell of a box so dirty the human could smell it throught he closed top would be terrible. My cat would use the covered box (no door), but if I didn't clean it every time she used it (difficult for a working cat mom), she'd either pee out the front door or aim for the crack between the top and bottom. Precisely. With these covered boxes, it's a lose/lose. The human cannot see what is or is not in the box, and the cat winds up eliminating inappropriately as a result of being forgotten about. She's also a digger and will dig the entire box of litter onto even a tiny little pee spot. Silly cat! Mine does this, as well as standing *on top* of the box, balances on the edges, scraping the sides. And there is nothing *in* the box but a single poop or pee she just did. I eventually gave up and found a box with really tall sides but open on the top. This is the kind of box I use. It stops them from kicking the litter out, but it is not enclosed, so nicer for them and I can see when it needs to be cleaned. Now she rarely pees outside the box while sitting in it (I call it "following the letter but not the spirit of Litterbox Law"), and while she still digs it's not as bad as before - I think the big pile was trying to hide the smell that was concentrated in the covered box. It's true. The main cause of cats going outside the box is either a dirty litter box or an enclosed box that smells dirty to them. |
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