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Tracy
September 21st 03, 09:01 PM
This may be a bit long, but please bear with me : I sorely need some
advice here.

We have two cats, Callie and Flower. Callie is 16 months, Maine Coon
mix and was adopted at 6 months old from the Anti-Cruelty Society in
Chicago. She's a great cat and we adore her. We moved back to Northern
California with her a month ago and decided to act on a long-standing
thought about getting a companion cat for Callie, especially once I
returned to a full-time work schedule. We didn't do so in Chicago, as
I was doing much of my work from home there and we also felt strongly
that we didn't want to adopt another cat and then move it
cross-country while it was still adapting to a new living environment.

So.... we got to California and settled into a small home. Without
getting into the indoor/outdoor cat debate - let me briefly say that
Callie started out as an indoor cat, graduated to the harness, and
then supervised time out with me in an urban yard. She was not,
obviously, permitted outside unsupervised in urban Chicago. She has
always had a real interest and need to be outside on whatever terms
she could get and so we tried to accomodate her as safety allowed. And
she has always been smart and capable in surmounting the challenges of
outside and believe me, I spent ALOT of time out there with her.

Here in California, we have a cavernous yard, and a block filled with
indoor/outdoor cats and Callie has been in hog heaven spending her
days outside, mostly in our and few neighboring yards. She never
seemed to get in any trouble, appear scared in any way, came in every
evening right on time and always responded promptly to her name being
called.

Probably we should have left well enough alone, but we still thought a
2nd cat would fit in well, as she has always been sociable in the
extreme with other cats. We went several times to the local shelters,
and concluded that although a male kitten would probably have been the
easiest match, that we prefer female cats (partially for roaming
reasons) and that we had limited time to socialize and supervise a new
kitten. (And having engaged in a protracted effort in raising Callie,
I do know that it takes time to do it right). We settled on a very
timid, shy Tuxedo female about Callie's age. Our thinking was that a
timid cat would be far less likely to try to dominate Callie and that
it would be easy for her to set up the terms of their new relationship
and we felt strongly that our 1st cat deserved to have her needs come
first in her home. We also thought Flower, underneath the extreme
fear, seemed enormously sweet.

It's been five weeks and despite an extensive introduction process,
their relationship has gone from bad to worse. Flower spends virtually
all of her time under the bed, sneaking out only when the coast is
clear, and immediately retreating if she comes across any living
creature. The only person in the house she has bonded with at all is
me, who she will sometimes allow to be in the same room as her if I
don't move too much. Once or twice, after a protracted half an hour
approach, she let me pet her. She does eat and use the box, but they
have to be within 12" of the bed.

In the meantime, Callie, who will chase her under the bed if she sees
her, has started spending her entire days in the yard, refuses to use
her cat tree, and howls half the night to be let outside. She seems to
feel the house is contaminated by the other cat, and while she is
still enormously affectionate with us, she doesn't want to be inside
the house anymore. When she has to be inside, she selects a defensive
position in the study, a tiny room farthest from the bedroom and stays
there - on alert - all night long - ignoring her cat tree, our bedroom
and all the rest of her formerly favorite places. We feel terrible for
both of them.

On Friday morning, sick of tired of living in an armed war zone for
over a month, I found Flower siting, miraculously, on top of the bed,
in the locked bedroom.
I went and got Callie and showed her Flower on the bed, while holding
her gently and giving her treats and kisses. She groaned terribly and
ran back to her safe place crying. I immediately went to her and tried
to reassure her who basically attached herself like a burr to my
chest, which is enormously uncharacteristic .Despairing, I took her
out into the yard and hung out with her all morning, where she was
happy and playful. When I had to go out for a while, she began
following me and I picked her up and returned her to the yard. The
third time,
I thought seriously about locking her up, but thought that would only
make her more unhappy and she was generally calmer and happier in the
yard. Big mistake.

Callie was gone for thirty hours, thirty of the worse hours of my
life, and returned very late Saturday night limping and with a wound
on her leg.
My theory is that, she again tried to follow me, hiding under cars so
I wouldn't see her (and I looked back extensively, but she can hide
well) and was probably clipped by a car. The wound - which is healable
- was scabbed when she returned, so I expect she hid for the night and
next day and limped home when it was dark again. In other words - I
almost lost her, if not for luck and her own bright, brave and savvy
self.

So I'm horrified and torn. I feel like I am endangering Callie's life
by the emotional distress this adoption is putting her through. She's
never done anything remotely like this and I don't know what will
happen next. She's recuperating inside, but both are locked up and
separated and Callie will only occupy this one room, although she's
ill and should be on the bed with me in premium comfort. With only
three legs working, she's still agitating to go outside (which ain't
gonna happen for a while). Meanwhile, the new cat is confined to the
bedroom again, with a little underbed universe, and while I can see
she is slowly starting to trust me a little and come out of her shell,
she's a long way from mere freedom of motion in a house with two
adults and another cat. (She won't come out from under the bed if my
husband enters the bedroom or bathroom, if I move quickly or towards
her, or if she hears Callie in the house). She's under there a minimum
of 20 of every 24 hours, and has been since she arrived.

Help! I feel like this is beginning to spiral out of control. My
husband thinks Flower has to be returned to the no-kill shelter, but I
look in those little eyes
(as I'm the only one who see them), and it's so hard for me to betray
that granule of growing trust. I don't see how we can find an
alternate home for a cat who's under the bed 20 hours a day. But he's
right. We can't put Callie's happiness at risk indefinitely. It's not
fair to take care of this new cat at her expense, especially when the
primary purpose of the new cat was to make her life better, not to
ruin it.

Where can we go from here? I'm lost and not sure I can spend another
month primarily worrying about cats and I'll go out of my mind of
Callie disappears again - as will he.

I never thought I'd ecen be considering returning a cat to a shelter,
but I'm running out of other ideas to salvage this situation.

Any thoughts?

Tracy

m. L. Briggs
September 22nd 03, 12:59 AM
On 21 Sep 2003 13:01:47 -0700, (Tracy) wrote:

>This may be a bit long, but please bear with me : I sorely need some
>advice here.
>
>We have two cats, Callie and Flower. Callie is 16 months, Maine Coon
>mix and was adopted at 6 months old from the Anti-Cruelty Society in
>Chicago. She's a great cat and we adore her. We moved back to Northern
>California with her a month ago and decided to act on a long-standing
>thought about getting a companion cat for Callie, especially once I
>returned to a full-time work schedule. We didn't do so in Chicago, as
>I was doing much of my work from home there and we also felt strongly
>that we didn't want to adopt another cat and then move it
>cross-country while it was still adapting to a new living environment.
>
>So.... we got to California and settled into a small home. Without
>getting into the indoor/outdoor cat debate - let me briefly say that
>Callie started out as an indoor cat, graduated to the harness, and
>then supervised time out with me in an urban yard. She was not,
>obviously, permitted outside unsupervised in urban Chicago. She has
>always had a real interest and need to be outside on whatever terms
>she could get and so we tried to accomodate her as safety allowed. And
>she has always been smart and capable in surmounting the challenges of
>outside and believe me, I spent ALOT of time out there with her.
>
>Here in California, we have a cavernous yard, and a block filled with
>indoor/outdoor cats and Callie has been in hog heaven spending her
>days outside, mostly in our and few neighboring yards. She never
>seemed to get in any trouble, appear scared in any way, came in every
>evening right on time and always responded promptly to her name being
>called.
>
>Probably we should have left well enough alone, but we still thought a
>2nd cat would fit in well, as she has always been sociable in the
>extreme with other cats. We went several times to the local shelters,
>and concluded that although a male kitten would probably have been the
>easiest match, that we prefer female cats (partially for roaming
>reasons) and that we had limited time to socialize and supervise a new
>kitten. (And having engaged in a protracted effort in raising Callie,
>I do know that it takes time to do it right). We settled on a very
>timid, shy Tuxedo female about Callie's age. Our thinking was that a
>timid cat would be far less likely to try to dominate Callie and that
>it would be easy for her to set up the terms of their new relationship
>and we felt strongly that our 1st cat deserved to have her needs come
>first in her home. We also thought Flower, underneath the extreme
>fear, seemed enormously sweet.
>
>It's been five weeks and despite an extensive introduction process,
>their relationship has gone from bad to worse. Flower spends virtually
>all of her time under the bed, sneaking out only when the coast is
>clear, and immediately retreating if she comes across any living
>creature. The only person in the house she has bonded with at all is
>me, who she will sometimes allow to be in the same room as her if I
>don't move too much. Once or twice, after a protracted half an hour
>approach, she let me pet her. She does eat and use the box, but they
>have to be within 12" of the bed.
>
>In the meantime, Callie, who will chase her under the bed if she sees
>her, has started spending her entire days in the yard, refuses to use
>her cat tree, and howls half the night to be let outside. She seems to
>feel the house is contaminated by the other cat, and while she is
>still enormously affectionate with us, she doesn't want to be inside
>the house anymore. When she has to be inside, she selects a defensive
>position in the study, a tiny room farthest from the bedroom and stays
>there - on alert - all night long - ignoring her cat tree, our bedroom
>and all the rest of her formerly favorite places. We feel terrible for
>both of them.
>
>On Friday morning, sick of tired of living in an armed war zone for
>over a month, I found Flower siting, miraculously, on top of the bed,
>in the locked bedroom.
>I went and got Callie and showed her Flower on the bed, while holding
>her gently and giving her treats and kisses. She groaned terribly and
>ran back to her safe place crying. I immediately went to her and tried
>to reassure her who basically attached herself like a burr to my
>chest, which is enormously uncharacteristic .Despairing, I took her
>out into the yard and hung out with her all morning, where she was
>happy and playful. When I had to go out for a while, she began
>following me and I picked her up and returned her to the yard. The
>third time,
>I thought seriously about locking her up, but thought that would only
>make her more unhappy and she was generally calmer and happier in the
>yard. Big mistake.
>
>Callie was gone for thirty hours, thirty of the worse hours of my
>life, and returned very late Saturday night limping and with a wound
>on her leg.
>My theory is that, she again tried to follow me, hiding under cars so
>I wouldn't see her (and I looked back extensively, but she can hide
>well) and was probably clipped by a car. The wound - which is healable
>- was scabbed when she returned, so I expect she hid for the night and
>next day and limped home when it was dark again. In other words - I
>almost lost her, if not for luck and her own bright, brave and savvy
>self.
>
>So I'm horrified and torn. I feel like I am endangering Callie's life
>by the emotional distress this adoption is putting her through. She's
>never done anything remotely like this and I don't know what will
>happen next. She's recuperating inside, but both are locked up and
>separated and Callie will only occupy this one room, although she's
>ill and should be on the bed with me in premium comfort. With only
>three legs working, she's still agitating to go outside (which ain't
>gonna happen for a while). Meanwhile, the new cat is confined to the
>bedroom again, with a little underbed universe, and while I can see
>she is slowly starting to trust me a little and come out of her shell,
>she's a long way from mere freedom of motion in a house with two
>adults and another cat. (She won't come out from under the bed if my
>husband enters the bedroom or bathroom, if I move quickly or towards
>her, or if she hears Callie in the house). She's under there a minimum
>of 20 of every 24 hours, and has been since she arrived.
>
>Help! I feel like this is beginning to spiral out of control. My
>husband thinks Flower has to be returned to the no-kill shelter, but I
>look in those little eyes
>(as I'm the only one who see them), and it's so hard for me to betray
>that granule of growing trust. I don't see how we can find an
>alternate home for a cat who's under the bed 20 hours a day. But he's
>right. We can't put Callie's happiness at risk indefinitely. It's not
>fair to take care of this new cat at her expense, especially when the
>primary purpose of the new cat was to make her life better, not to
>ruin it.
>
>Where can we go from here? I'm lost and not sure I can spend another
>month primarily worrying about cats and I'll go out of my mind of
>Callie disappears again - as will he.
>
>I never thought I'd ecen be considering returning a cat to a shelter,
>but I'm running out of other ideas to salvage this situation.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Tracy

some cats prefer being "only cats" and I think you have got two of
them. Perhaps you can find someone who wants an only cat -- I am sure
she would adjust. Best of luck.

m. L. Briggs
September 22nd 03, 12:59 AM
On 21 Sep 2003 13:01:47 -0700, (Tracy) wrote:

>This may be a bit long, but please bear with me : I sorely need some
>advice here.
>
>We have two cats, Callie and Flower. Callie is 16 months, Maine Coon
>mix and was adopted at 6 months old from the Anti-Cruelty Society in
>Chicago. She's a great cat and we adore her. We moved back to Northern
>California with her a month ago and decided to act on a long-standing
>thought about getting a companion cat for Callie, especially once I
>returned to a full-time work schedule. We didn't do so in Chicago, as
>I was doing much of my work from home there and we also felt strongly
>that we didn't want to adopt another cat and then move it
>cross-country while it was still adapting to a new living environment.
>
>So.... we got to California and settled into a small home. Without
>getting into the indoor/outdoor cat debate - let me briefly say that
>Callie started out as an indoor cat, graduated to the harness, and
>then supervised time out with me in an urban yard. She was not,
>obviously, permitted outside unsupervised in urban Chicago. She has
>always had a real interest and need to be outside on whatever terms
>she could get and so we tried to accomodate her as safety allowed. And
>she has always been smart and capable in surmounting the challenges of
>outside and believe me, I spent ALOT of time out there with her.
>
>Here in California, we have a cavernous yard, and a block filled with
>indoor/outdoor cats and Callie has been in hog heaven spending her
>days outside, mostly in our and few neighboring yards. She never
>seemed to get in any trouble, appear scared in any way, came in every
>evening right on time and always responded promptly to her name being
>called.
>
>Probably we should have left well enough alone, but we still thought a
>2nd cat would fit in well, as she has always been sociable in the
>extreme with other cats. We went several times to the local shelters,
>and concluded that although a male kitten would probably have been the
>easiest match, that we prefer female cats (partially for roaming
>reasons) and that we had limited time to socialize and supervise a new
>kitten. (And having engaged in a protracted effort in raising Callie,
>I do know that it takes time to do it right). We settled on a very
>timid, shy Tuxedo female about Callie's age. Our thinking was that a
>timid cat would be far less likely to try to dominate Callie and that
>it would be easy for her to set up the terms of their new relationship
>and we felt strongly that our 1st cat deserved to have her needs come
>first in her home. We also thought Flower, underneath the extreme
>fear, seemed enormously sweet.
>
>It's been five weeks and despite an extensive introduction process,
>their relationship has gone from bad to worse. Flower spends virtually
>all of her time under the bed, sneaking out only when the coast is
>clear, and immediately retreating if she comes across any living
>creature. The only person in the house she has bonded with at all is
>me, who she will sometimes allow to be in the same room as her if I
>don't move too much. Once or twice, after a protracted half an hour
>approach, she let me pet her. She does eat and use the box, but they
>have to be within 12" of the bed.
>
>In the meantime, Callie, who will chase her under the bed if she sees
>her, has started spending her entire days in the yard, refuses to use
>her cat tree, and howls half the night to be let outside. She seems to
>feel the house is contaminated by the other cat, and while she is
>still enormously affectionate with us, she doesn't want to be inside
>the house anymore. When she has to be inside, she selects a defensive
>position in the study, a tiny room farthest from the bedroom and stays
>there - on alert - all night long - ignoring her cat tree, our bedroom
>and all the rest of her formerly favorite places. We feel terrible for
>both of them.
>
>On Friday morning, sick of tired of living in an armed war zone for
>over a month, I found Flower siting, miraculously, on top of the bed,
>in the locked bedroom.
>I went and got Callie and showed her Flower on the bed, while holding
>her gently and giving her treats and kisses. She groaned terribly and
>ran back to her safe place crying. I immediately went to her and tried
>to reassure her who basically attached herself like a burr to my
>chest, which is enormously uncharacteristic .Despairing, I took her
>out into the yard and hung out with her all morning, where she was
>happy and playful. When I had to go out for a while, she began
>following me and I picked her up and returned her to the yard. The
>third time,
>I thought seriously about locking her up, but thought that would only
>make her more unhappy and she was generally calmer and happier in the
>yard. Big mistake.
>
>Callie was gone for thirty hours, thirty of the worse hours of my
>life, and returned very late Saturday night limping and with a wound
>on her leg.
>My theory is that, she again tried to follow me, hiding under cars so
>I wouldn't see her (and I looked back extensively, but she can hide
>well) and was probably clipped by a car. The wound - which is healable
>- was scabbed when she returned, so I expect she hid for the night and
>next day and limped home when it was dark again. In other words - I
>almost lost her, if not for luck and her own bright, brave and savvy
>self.
>
>So I'm horrified and torn. I feel like I am endangering Callie's life
>by the emotional distress this adoption is putting her through. She's
>never done anything remotely like this and I don't know what will
>happen next. She's recuperating inside, but both are locked up and
>separated and Callie will only occupy this one room, although she's
>ill and should be on the bed with me in premium comfort. With only
>three legs working, she's still agitating to go outside (which ain't
>gonna happen for a while). Meanwhile, the new cat is confined to the
>bedroom again, with a little underbed universe, and while I can see
>she is slowly starting to trust me a little and come out of her shell,
>she's a long way from mere freedom of motion in a house with two
>adults and another cat. (She won't come out from under the bed if my
>husband enters the bedroom or bathroom, if I move quickly or towards
>her, or if she hears Callie in the house). She's under there a minimum
>of 20 of every 24 hours, and has been since she arrived.
>
>Help! I feel like this is beginning to spiral out of control. My
>husband thinks Flower has to be returned to the no-kill shelter, but I
>look in those little eyes
>(as I'm the only one who see them), and it's so hard for me to betray
>that granule of growing trust. I don't see how we can find an
>alternate home for a cat who's under the bed 20 hours a day. But he's
>right. We can't put Callie's happiness at risk indefinitely. It's not
>fair to take care of this new cat at her expense, especially when the
>primary purpose of the new cat was to make her life better, not to
>ruin it.
>
>Where can we go from here? I'm lost and not sure I can spend another
>month primarily worrying about cats and I'll go out of my mind of
>Callie disappears again - as will he.
>
>I never thought I'd ecen be considering returning a cat to a shelter,
>but I'm running out of other ideas to salvage this situation.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Tracy

some cats prefer being "only cats" and I think you have got two of
them. Perhaps you can find someone who wants an only cat -- I am sure
she would adjust. Best of luck.

m. L. Briggs
September 22nd 03, 12:59 AM
On 21 Sep 2003 13:01:47 -0700, (Tracy) wrote:

>This may be a bit long, but please bear with me : I sorely need some
>advice here.
>
>We have two cats, Callie and Flower. Callie is 16 months, Maine Coon
>mix and was adopted at 6 months old from the Anti-Cruelty Society in
>Chicago. She's a great cat and we adore her. We moved back to Northern
>California with her a month ago and decided to act on a long-standing
>thought about getting a companion cat for Callie, especially once I
>returned to a full-time work schedule. We didn't do so in Chicago, as
>I was doing much of my work from home there and we also felt strongly
>that we didn't want to adopt another cat and then move it
>cross-country while it was still adapting to a new living environment.
>
>So.... we got to California and settled into a small home. Without
>getting into the indoor/outdoor cat debate - let me briefly say that
>Callie started out as an indoor cat, graduated to the harness, and
>then supervised time out with me in an urban yard. She was not,
>obviously, permitted outside unsupervised in urban Chicago. She has
>always had a real interest and need to be outside on whatever terms
>she could get and so we tried to accomodate her as safety allowed. And
>she has always been smart and capable in surmounting the challenges of
>outside and believe me, I spent ALOT of time out there with her.
>
>Here in California, we have a cavernous yard, and a block filled with
>indoor/outdoor cats and Callie has been in hog heaven spending her
>days outside, mostly in our and few neighboring yards. She never
>seemed to get in any trouble, appear scared in any way, came in every
>evening right on time and always responded promptly to her name being
>called.
>
>Probably we should have left well enough alone, but we still thought a
>2nd cat would fit in well, as she has always been sociable in the
>extreme with other cats. We went several times to the local shelters,
>and concluded that although a male kitten would probably have been the
>easiest match, that we prefer female cats (partially for roaming
>reasons) and that we had limited time to socialize and supervise a new
>kitten. (And having engaged in a protracted effort in raising Callie,
>I do know that it takes time to do it right). We settled on a very
>timid, shy Tuxedo female about Callie's age. Our thinking was that a
>timid cat would be far less likely to try to dominate Callie and that
>it would be easy for her to set up the terms of their new relationship
>and we felt strongly that our 1st cat deserved to have her needs come
>first in her home. We also thought Flower, underneath the extreme
>fear, seemed enormously sweet.
>
>It's been five weeks and despite an extensive introduction process,
>their relationship has gone from bad to worse. Flower spends virtually
>all of her time under the bed, sneaking out only when the coast is
>clear, and immediately retreating if she comes across any living
>creature. The only person in the house she has bonded with at all is
>me, who she will sometimes allow to be in the same room as her if I
>don't move too much. Once or twice, after a protracted half an hour
>approach, she let me pet her. She does eat and use the box, but they
>have to be within 12" of the bed.
>
>In the meantime, Callie, who will chase her under the bed if she sees
>her, has started spending her entire days in the yard, refuses to use
>her cat tree, and howls half the night to be let outside. She seems to
>feel the house is contaminated by the other cat, and while she is
>still enormously affectionate with us, she doesn't want to be inside
>the house anymore. When she has to be inside, she selects a defensive
>position in the study, a tiny room farthest from the bedroom and stays
>there - on alert - all night long - ignoring her cat tree, our bedroom
>and all the rest of her formerly favorite places. We feel terrible for
>both of them.
>
>On Friday morning, sick of tired of living in an armed war zone for
>over a month, I found Flower siting, miraculously, on top of the bed,
>in the locked bedroom.
>I went and got Callie and showed her Flower on the bed, while holding
>her gently and giving her treats and kisses. She groaned terribly and
>ran back to her safe place crying. I immediately went to her and tried
>to reassure her who basically attached herself like a burr to my
>chest, which is enormously uncharacteristic .Despairing, I took her
>out into the yard and hung out with her all morning, where she was
>happy and playful. When I had to go out for a while, she began
>following me and I picked her up and returned her to the yard. The
>third time,
>I thought seriously about locking her up, but thought that would only
>make her more unhappy and she was generally calmer and happier in the
>yard. Big mistake.
>
>Callie was gone for thirty hours, thirty of the worse hours of my
>life, and returned very late Saturday night limping and with a wound
>on her leg.
>My theory is that, she again tried to follow me, hiding under cars so
>I wouldn't see her (and I looked back extensively, but she can hide
>well) and was probably clipped by a car. The wound - which is healable
>- was scabbed when she returned, so I expect she hid for the night and
>next day and limped home when it was dark again. In other words - I
>almost lost her, if not for luck and her own bright, brave and savvy
>self.
>
>So I'm horrified and torn. I feel like I am endangering Callie's life
>by the emotional distress this adoption is putting her through. She's
>never done anything remotely like this and I don't know what will
>happen next. She's recuperating inside, but both are locked up and
>separated and Callie will only occupy this one room, although she's
>ill and should be on the bed with me in premium comfort. With only
>three legs working, she's still agitating to go outside (which ain't
>gonna happen for a while). Meanwhile, the new cat is confined to the
>bedroom again, with a little underbed universe, and while I can see
>she is slowly starting to trust me a little and come out of her shell,
>she's a long way from mere freedom of motion in a house with two
>adults and another cat. (She won't come out from under the bed if my
>husband enters the bedroom or bathroom, if I move quickly or towards
>her, or if she hears Callie in the house). She's under there a minimum
>of 20 of every 24 hours, and has been since she arrived.
>
>Help! I feel like this is beginning to spiral out of control. My
>husband thinks Flower has to be returned to the no-kill shelter, but I
>look in those little eyes
>(as I'm the only one who see them), and it's so hard for me to betray
>that granule of growing trust. I don't see how we can find an
>alternate home for a cat who's under the bed 20 hours a day. But he's
>right. We can't put Callie's happiness at risk indefinitely. It's not
>fair to take care of this new cat at her expense, especially when the
>primary purpose of the new cat was to make her life better, not to
>ruin it.
>
>Where can we go from here? I'm lost and not sure I can spend another
>month primarily worrying about cats and I'll go out of my mind of
>Callie disappears again - as will he.
>
>I never thought I'd ecen be considering returning a cat to a shelter,
>but I'm running out of other ideas to salvage this situation.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Tracy

some cats prefer being "only cats" and I think you have got two of
them. Perhaps you can find someone who wants an only cat -- I am sure
she would adjust. Best of luck.

fuga =^o^=
September 22nd 03, 03:54 AM
Did you take Callie to the vet since you brought her home to make sure she's
ok?

I am sorry to hear you are having such a hard time getting the cats to
adjust to each other.

Purrs,

fuga

fuga =^o^=
September 22nd 03, 03:54 AM
Did you take Callie to the vet since you brought her home to make sure she's
ok?

I am sorry to hear you are having such a hard time getting the cats to
adjust to each other.

Purrs,

fuga

fuga =^o^=
September 22nd 03, 03:54 AM
Did you take Callie to the vet since you brought her home to make sure she's
ok?

I am sorry to hear you are having such a hard time getting the cats to
adjust to each other.

Purrs,

fuga

Tracy
September 22nd 03, 08:21 AM
"fuga =^o^=" > wrote in message ers.com>...
> Did you take Callie to the vet since you brought her home to make sure she's
> ok?
>
> I am sorry to hear you are having such a hard time getting the cats to
> adjust to each other.
>
> Purrs,
>
> fuga

Oh yes, of course. We went to the emergency clinic the same night she
came home limping. She has a puncture wound on her lower left leg, is
scared and hungry and tired, but the vet saw no additional damage
(besides a bad case of fleas, sigh).

We're watching her closely for any signs of trouble, but so far, she
seems to be improving .....

Tracy
September 22nd 03, 08:21 AM
"fuga =^o^=" > wrote in message ers.com>...
> Did you take Callie to the vet since you brought her home to make sure she's
> ok?
>
> I am sorry to hear you are having such a hard time getting the cats to
> adjust to each other.
>
> Purrs,
>
> fuga

Oh yes, of course. We went to the emergency clinic the same night she
came home limping. She has a puncture wound on her lower left leg, is
scared and hungry and tired, but the vet saw no additional damage
(besides a bad case of fleas, sigh).

We're watching her closely for any signs of trouble, but so far, she
seems to be improving .....

Tracy
September 22nd 03, 08:21 AM
"fuga =^o^=" > wrote in message ers.com>...
> Did you take Callie to the vet since you brought her home to make sure she's
> ok?
>
> I am sorry to hear you are having such a hard time getting the cats to
> adjust to each other.
>
> Purrs,
>
> fuga

Oh yes, of course. We went to the emergency clinic the same night she
came home limping. She has a puncture wound on her lower left leg, is
scared and hungry and tired, but the vet saw no additional damage
(besides a bad case of fleas, sigh).

We're watching her closely for any signs of trouble, but so far, she
seems to be improving .....

fuga =^o^=
September 22nd 03, 03:22 PM
Oh good. I hope you can get the cat situation settled. You may want to get
some feliway diffusers for your home until you can find a new home for
flower.

Fuga

fuga =^o^=
September 22nd 03, 03:22 PM
Oh good. I hope you can get the cat situation settled. You may want to get
some feliway diffusers for your home until you can find a new home for
flower.

Fuga

fuga =^o^=
September 22nd 03, 03:22 PM
Oh good. I hope you can get the cat situation settled. You may want to get
some feliway diffusers for your home until you can find a new home for
flower.

Fuga

Mary
September 22nd 03, 06:10 PM
Tracy--

It often takes a lot longer than five weeks. It helps if you can give the
two cats their own territory without closing any doors. Our house has three
floors, and when I brought my second rescue home, she settled into the top
story, my 8-year-old the bottom, and they sometimes met on the second
floor. For months there was hissing etc. when the cats met, but they tended
to stay in their territories. After a few months, they began to show
indifference to one another, sometimes being on the middle, "neutral "
floor together, ignoring one another conspicuously! After about six months
they began to play, and now they hang out together in front of the big
window in my original cat's "lair" like old buddies.

One more thing, and you may not like this. You need to make Callie an
indoor cat. She is in danger as long as she is outdoors. She can and will
adjust. If you do not make her an indoor cat, she will very likely die
young.

Do not take Flower back to the shelter unless you truly feel you have no
room
for her to have a territory of her own for a while, but without closing her
off. People don't tend to want the shy ones--and you have already bonded
with her.

At the very least keep Callie indoors for eight more weeks and give them
some time. Don't try to force anything--don't pick one cat up and take it
to the other. Just let them be. Callie needs to make a change, and she can
and will adjust. Once there is no place else to go, she will negotiate with
Flower and they will get along. If they don't, after perhaps three more
months or so, you can return Flower to the shelter if you must. If you
must, Callie will be just fine. Cats are tough, and adaptable, just like
people. Don't deprive dear Flower of your loving home because you did not
take the patience to wait out the transition. And I promise you will never
regret making Callie an indoor cat. It is wonderful to have them for 20
years, and that nearly never happens with outdoor cats. Too many risks. I
hope this helps.
"Tracy" > wrote in message
...
> This may be a bit long, but please bear with me : I sorely need some
> advice here.
>
> We have two cats, Callie and Flower. Callie is 16 months, Maine Coon
> mix and was adopted at 6 months old from the Anti-Cruelty Society in
> Chicago. She's a great cat and we adore her. We moved back to Northern
> California with her a month ago and decided to act on a long-standing
> thought about getting a companion cat for Callie, especially once I
> returned to a full-time work schedule. We didn't do so in Chicago, as
> I was doing much of my work from home there and we also felt strongly
> that we didn't want to adopt another cat and then move it
> cross-country while it was still adapting to a new living environment.
>
> So.... we got to California and settled into a small home. Without
> getting into the indoor/outdoor cat debate - let me briefly say that
> Callie started out as an indoor cat, graduated to the harness, and
> then supervised time out with me in an urban yard. She was not,
> obviously, permitted outside unsupervised in urban Chicago. She has
> always had a real interest and need to be outside on whatever terms
> she could get and so we tried to accomodate her as safety allowed. And
> she has always been smart and capable in surmounting the challenges of
> outside and believe me, I spent ALOT of time out there with her.
>
> Here in California, we have a cavernous yard, and a block filled with
> indoor/outdoor cats and Callie has been in hog heaven spending her
> days outside, mostly in our and few neighboring yards. She never
> seemed to get in any trouble, appear scared in any way, came in every
> evening right on time and always responded promptly to her name being
> called.
>
> Probably we should have left well enough alone, but we still thought a
> 2nd cat would fit in well, as she has always been sociable in the
> extreme with other cats. We went several times to the local shelters,
> and concluded that although a male kitten would probably have been the
> easiest match, that we prefer female cats (partially for roaming
> reasons) and that we had limited time to socialize and supervise a new
> kitten. (And having engaged in a protracted effort in raising Callie,
> I do know that it takes time to do it right). We settled on a very
> timid, shy Tuxedo female about Callie's age. Our thinking was that a
> timid cat would be far less likely to try to dominate Callie and that
> it would be easy for her to set up the terms of their new relationship
> and we felt strongly that our 1st cat deserved to have her needs come
> first in her home. We also thought Flower, underneath the extreme
> fear, seemed enormously sweet.
>
> It's been five weeks and despite an extensive introduction process,
> their relationship has gone from bad to worse. Flower spends virtually
> all of her time under the bed, sneaking out only when the coast is
> clear, and immediately retreating if she comes across any living
> creature. The only person in the house she has bonded with at all is
> me, who she will sometimes allow to be in the same room as her if I
> don't move too much. Once or twice, after a protracted half an hour
> approach, she let me pet her. She does eat and use the box, but they
> have to be within 12" of the bed.
>
> In the meantime, Callie, who will chase her under the bed if she sees
> her, has started spending her entire days in the yard, refuses to use
> her cat tree, and howls half the night to be let outside. She seems to
> feel the house is contaminated by the other cat, and while she is
> still enormously affectionate with us, she doesn't want to be inside
> the house anymore. When she has to be inside, she selects a defensive
> position in the study, a tiny room farthest from the bedroom and stays
> there - on alert - all night long - ignoring her cat tree, our bedroom
> and all the rest of her formerly favorite places. We feel terrible for
> both of them.
>
> On Friday morning, sick of tired of living in an armed war zone for
> over a month, I found Flower siting, miraculously, on top of the bed,
> in the locked bedroom.
> I went and got Callie and showed her Flower on the bed, while holding
> her gently and giving her treats and kisses. She groaned terribly and
> ran back to her safe place crying. I immediately went to her and tried
> to reassure her who basically attached herself like a burr to my
> chest, which is enormously uncharacteristic .Despairing, I took her
> out into the yard and hung out with her all morning, where she was
> happy and playful. When I had to go out for a while, she began
> following me and I picked her up and returned her to the yard. The
> third time,
> I thought seriously about locking her up, but thought that would only
> make her more unhappy and she was generally calmer and happier in the
> yard. Big mistake.
>
> Callie was gone for thirty hours, thirty of the worse hours of my
> life, and returned very late Saturday night limping and with a wound
> on her leg.
> My theory is that, she again tried to follow me, hiding under cars so
> I wouldn't see her (and I looked back extensively, but she can hide
> well) and was probably clipped by a car. The wound - which is healable
> - was scabbed when she returned, so I expect she hid for the night and
> next day and limped home when it was dark again. In other words - I
> almost lost her, if not for luck and her own bright, brave and savvy
> self.
>
> So I'm horrified and torn. I feel like I am endangering Callie's life
> by the emotional distress this adoption is putting her through. She's
> never done anything remotely like this and I don't know what will
> happen next. She's recuperating inside, but both are locked up and
> separated and Callie will only occupy this one room, although she's
> ill and should be on the bed with me in premium comfort. With only
> three legs working, she's still agitating to go outside (which ain't
> gonna happen for a while). Meanwhile, the new cat is confined to the
> bedroom again, with a little underbed universe, and while I can see
> she is slowly starting to trust me a little and come out of her shell,
> she's a long way from mere freedom of motion in a house with two
> adults and another cat. (She won't come out from under the bed if my
> husband enters the bedroom or bathroom, if I move quickly or towards
> her, or if she hears Callie in the house). She's under there a minimum
> of 20 of every 24 hours, and has been since she arrived.
>
> Help! I feel like this is beginning to spiral out of control. My
> husband thinks Flower has to be returned to the no-kill shelter, but I
> look in those little eyes
> (as I'm the only one who see them), and it's so hard for me to betray
> that granule of growing trust. I don't see how we can find an
> alternate home for a cat who's under the bed 20 hours a day. But he's
> right. We can't put Callie's happiness at risk indefinitely. It's not
> fair to take care of this new cat at her expense, especially when the
> primary purpose of the new cat was to make her life better, not to
> ruin it.
>
> Where can we go from here? I'm lost and not sure I can spend another
> month primarily worrying about cats and I'll go out of my mind of
> Callie disappears again - as will he.
>
> I never thought I'd ecen be considering returning a cat to a shelter,
> but I'm running out of other ideas to salvage this situation.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Tracy

Mary
September 22nd 03, 06:10 PM
Tracy--

It often takes a lot longer than five weeks. It helps if you can give the
two cats their own territory without closing any doors. Our house has three
floors, and when I brought my second rescue home, she settled into the top
story, my 8-year-old the bottom, and they sometimes met on the second
floor. For months there was hissing etc. when the cats met, but they tended
to stay in their territories. After a few months, they began to show
indifference to one another, sometimes being on the middle, "neutral "
floor together, ignoring one another conspicuously! After about six months
they began to play, and now they hang out together in front of the big
window in my original cat's "lair" like old buddies.

One more thing, and you may not like this. You need to make Callie an
indoor cat. She is in danger as long as she is outdoors. She can and will
adjust. If you do not make her an indoor cat, she will very likely die
young.

Do not take Flower back to the shelter unless you truly feel you have no
room
for her to have a territory of her own for a while, but without closing her
off. People don't tend to want the shy ones--and you have already bonded
with her.

At the very least keep Callie indoors for eight more weeks and give them
some time. Don't try to force anything--don't pick one cat up and take it
to the other. Just let them be. Callie needs to make a change, and she can
and will adjust. Once there is no place else to go, she will negotiate with
Flower and they will get along. If they don't, after perhaps three more
months or so, you can return Flower to the shelter if you must. If you
must, Callie will be just fine. Cats are tough, and adaptable, just like
people. Don't deprive dear Flower of your loving home because you did not
take the patience to wait out the transition. And I promise you will never
regret making Callie an indoor cat. It is wonderful to have them for 20
years, and that nearly never happens with outdoor cats. Too many risks. I
hope this helps.
"Tracy" > wrote in message
...
> This may be a bit long, but please bear with me : I sorely need some
> advice here.
>
> We have two cats, Callie and Flower. Callie is 16 months, Maine Coon
> mix and was adopted at 6 months old from the Anti-Cruelty Society in
> Chicago. She's a great cat and we adore her. We moved back to Northern
> California with her a month ago and decided to act on a long-standing
> thought about getting a companion cat for Callie, especially once I
> returned to a full-time work schedule. We didn't do so in Chicago, as
> I was doing much of my work from home there and we also felt strongly
> that we didn't want to adopt another cat and then move it
> cross-country while it was still adapting to a new living environment.
>
> So.... we got to California and settled into a small home. Without
> getting into the indoor/outdoor cat debate - let me briefly say that
> Callie started out as an indoor cat, graduated to the harness, and
> then supervised time out with me in an urban yard. She was not,
> obviously, permitted outside unsupervised in urban Chicago. She has
> always had a real interest and need to be outside on whatever terms
> she could get and so we tried to accomodate her as safety allowed. And
> she has always been smart and capable in surmounting the challenges of
> outside and believe me, I spent ALOT of time out there with her.
>
> Here in California, we have a cavernous yard, and a block filled with
> indoor/outdoor cats and Callie has been in hog heaven spending her
> days outside, mostly in our and few neighboring yards. She never
> seemed to get in any trouble, appear scared in any way, came in every
> evening right on time and always responded promptly to her name being
> called.
>
> Probably we should have left well enough alone, but we still thought a
> 2nd cat would fit in well, as she has always been sociable in the
> extreme with other cats. We went several times to the local shelters,
> and concluded that although a male kitten would probably have been the
> easiest match, that we prefer female cats (partially for roaming
> reasons) and that we had limited time to socialize and supervise a new
> kitten. (And having engaged in a protracted effort in raising Callie,
> I do know that it takes time to do it right). We settled on a very
> timid, shy Tuxedo female about Callie's age. Our thinking was that a
> timid cat would be far less likely to try to dominate Callie and that
> it would be easy for her to set up the terms of their new relationship
> and we felt strongly that our 1st cat deserved to have her needs come
> first in her home. We also thought Flower, underneath the extreme
> fear, seemed enormously sweet.
>
> It's been five weeks and despite an extensive introduction process,
> their relationship has gone from bad to worse. Flower spends virtually
> all of her time under the bed, sneaking out only when the coast is
> clear, and immediately retreating if she comes across any living
> creature. The only person in the house she has bonded with at all is
> me, who she will sometimes allow to be in the same room as her if I
> don't move too much. Once or twice, after a protracted half an hour
> approach, she let me pet her. She does eat and use the box, but they
> have to be within 12" of the bed.
>
> In the meantime, Callie, who will chase her under the bed if she sees
> her, has started spending her entire days in the yard, refuses to use
> her cat tree, and howls half the night to be let outside. She seems to
> feel the house is contaminated by the other cat, and while she is
> still enormously affectionate with us, she doesn't want to be inside
> the house anymore. When she has to be inside, she selects a defensive
> position in the study, a tiny room farthest from the bedroom and stays
> there - on alert - all night long - ignoring her cat tree, our bedroom
> and all the rest of her formerly favorite places. We feel terrible for
> both of them.
>
> On Friday morning, sick of tired of living in an armed war zone for
> over a month, I found Flower siting, miraculously, on top of the bed,
> in the locked bedroom.
> I went and got Callie and showed her Flower on the bed, while holding
> her gently and giving her treats and kisses. She groaned terribly and
> ran back to her safe place crying. I immediately went to her and tried
> to reassure her who basically attached herself like a burr to my
> chest, which is enormously uncharacteristic .Despairing, I took her
> out into the yard and hung out with her all morning, where she was
> happy and playful. When I had to go out for a while, she began
> following me and I picked her up and returned her to the yard. The
> third time,
> I thought seriously about locking her up, but thought that would only
> make her more unhappy and she was generally calmer and happier in the
> yard. Big mistake.
>
> Callie was gone for thirty hours, thirty of the worse hours of my
> life, and returned very late Saturday night limping and with a wound
> on her leg.
> My theory is that, she again tried to follow me, hiding under cars so
> I wouldn't see her (and I looked back extensively, but she can hide
> well) and was probably clipped by a car. The wound - which is healable
> - was scabbed when she returned, so I expect she hid for the night and
> next day and limped home when it was dark again. In other words - I
> almost lost her, if not for luck and her own bright, brave and savvy
> self.
>
> So I'm horrified and torn. I feel like I am endangering Callie's life
> by the emotional distress this adoption is putting her through. She's
> never done anything remotely like this and I don't know what will
> happen next. She's recuperating inside, but both are locked up and
> separated and Callie will only occupy this one room, although she's
> ill and should be on the bed with me in premium comfort. With only
> three legs working, she's still agitating to go outside (which ain't
> gonna happen for a while). Meanwhile, the new cat is confined to the
> bedroom again, with a little underbed universe, and while I can see
> she is slowly starting to trust me a little and come out of her shell,
> she's a long way from mere freedom of motion in a house with two
> adults and another cat. (She won't come out from under the bed if my
> husband enters the bedroom or bathroom, if I move quickly or towards
> her, or if she hears Callie in the house). She's under there a minimum
> of 20 of every 24 hours, and has been since she arrived.
>
> Help! I feel like this is beginning to spiral out of control. My
> husband thinks Flower has to be returned to the no-kill shelter, but I
> look in those little eyes
> (as I'm the only one who see them), and it's so hard for me to betray
> that granule of growing trust. I don't see how we can find an
> alternate home for a cat who's under the bed 20 hours a day. But he's
> right. We can't put Callie's happiness at risk indefinitely. It's not
> fair to take care of this new cat at her expense, especially when the
> primary purpose of the new cat was to make her life better, not to
> ruin it.
>
> Where can we go from here? I'm lost and not sure I can spend another
> month primarily worrying about cats and I'll go out of my mind of
> Callie disappears again - as will he.
>
> I never thought I'd ecen be considering returning a cat to a shelter,
> but I'm running out of other ideas to salvage this situation.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Tracy

Mary
September 22nd 03, 06:10 PM
Tracy--

It often takes a lot longer than five weeks. It helps if you can give the
two cats their own territory without closing any doors. Our house has three
floors, and when I brought my second rescue home, she settled into the top
story, my 8-year-old the bottom, and they sometimes met on the second
floor. For months there was hissing etc. when the cats met, but they tended
to stay in their territories. After a few months, they began to show
indifference to one another, sometimes being on the middle, "neutral "
floor together, ignoring one another conspicuously! After about six months
they began to play, and now they hang out together in front of the big
window in my original cat's "lair" like old buddies.

One more thing, and you may not like this. You need to make Callie an
indoor cat. She is in danger as long as she is outdoors. She can and will
adjust. If you do not make her an indoor cat, she will very likely die
young.

Do not take Flower back to the shelter unless you truly feel you have no
room
for her to have a territory of her own for a while, but without closing her
off. People don't tend to want the shy ones--and you have already bonded
with her.

At the very least keep Callie indoors for eight more weeks and give them
some time. Don't try to force anything--don't pick one cat up and take it
to the other. Just let them be. Callie needs to make a change, and she can
and will adjust. Once there is no place else to go, she will negotiate with
Flower and they will get along. If they don't, after perhaps three more
months or so, you can return Flower to the shelter if you must. If you
must, Callie will be just fine. Cats are tough, and adaptable, just like
people. Don't deprive dear Flower of your loving home because you did not
take the patience to wait out the transition. And I promise you will never
regret making Callie an indoor cat. It is wonderful to have them for 20
years, and that nearly never happens with outdoor cats. Too many risks. I
hope this helps.
"Tracy" > wrote in message
...
> This may be a bit long, but please bear with me : I sorely need some
> advice here.
>
> We have two cats, Callie and Flower. Callie is 16 months, Maine Coon
> mix and was adopted at 6 months old from the Anti-Cruelty Society in
> Chicago. She's a great cat and we adore her. We moved back to Northern
> California with her a month ago and decided to act on a long-standing
> thought about getting a companion cat for Callie, especially once I
> returned to a full-time work schedule. We didn't do so in Chicago, as
> I was doing much of my work from home there and we also felt strongly
> that we didn't want to adopt another cat and then move it
> cross-country while it was still adapting to a new living environment.
>
> So.... we got to California and settled into a small home. Without
> getting into the indoor/outdoor cat debate - let me briefly say that
> Callie started out as an indoor cat, graduated to the harness, and
> then supervised time out with me in an urban yard. She was not,
> obviously, permitted outside unsupervised in urban Chicago. She has
> always had a real interest and need to be outside on whatever terms
> she could get and so we tried to accomodate her as safety allowed. And
> she has always been smart and capable in surmounting the challenges of
> outside and believe me, I spent ALOT of time out there with her.
>
> Here in California, we have a cavernous yard, and a block filled with
> indoor/outdoor cats and Callie has been in hog heaven spending her
> days outside, mostly in our and few neighboring yards. She never
> seemed to get in any trouble, appear scared in any way, came in every
> evening right on time and always responded promptly to her name being
> called.
>
> Probably we should have left well enough alone, but we still thought a
> 2nd cat would fit in well, as she has always been sociable in the
> extreme with other cats. We went several times to the local shelters,
> and concluded that although a male kitten would probably have been the
> easiest match, that we prefer female cats (partially for roaming
> reasons) and that we had limited time to socialize and supervise a new
> kitten. (And having engaged in a protracted effort in raising Callie,
> I do know that it takes time to do it right). We settled on a very
> timid, shy Tuxedo female about Callie's age. Our thinking was that a
> timid cat would be far less likely to try to dominate Callie and that
> it would be easy for her to set up the terms of their new relationship
> and we felt strongly that our 1st cat deserved to have her needs come
> first in her home. We also thought Flower, underneath the extreme
> fear, seemed enormously sweet.
>
> It's been five weeks and despite an extensive introduction process,
> their relationship has gone from bad to worse. Flower spends virtually
> all of her time under the bed, sneaking out only when the coast is
> clear, and immediately retreating if she comes across any living
> creature. The only person in the house she has bonded with at all is
> me, who she will sometimes allow to be in the same room as her if I
> don't move too much. Once or twice, after a protracted half an hour
> approach, she let me pet her. She does eat and use the box, but they
> have to be within 12" of the bed.
>
> In the meantime, Callie, who will chase her under the bed if she sees
> her, has started spending her entire days in the yard, refuses to use
> her cat tree, and howls half the night to be let outside. She seems to
> feel the house is contaminated by the other cat, and while she is
> still enormously affectionate with us, she doesn't want to be inside
> the house anymore. When she has to be inside, she selects a defensive
> position in the study, a tiny room farthest from the bedroom and stays
> there - on alert - all night long - ignoring her cat tree, our bedroom
> and all the rest of her formerly favorite places. We feel terrible for
> both of them.
>
> On Friday morning, sick of tired of living in an armed war zone for
> over a month, I found Flower siting, miraculously, on top of the bed,
> in the locked bedroom.
> I went and got Callie and showed her Flower on the bed, while holding
> her gently and giving her treats and kisses. She groaned terribly and
> ran back to her safe place crying. I immediately went to her and tried
> to reassure her who basically attached herself like a burr to my
> chest, which is enormously uncharacteristic .Despairing, I took her
> out into the yard and hung out with her all morning, where she was
> happy and playful. When I had to go out for a while, she began
> following me and I picked her up and returned her to the yard. The
> third time,
> I thought seriously about locking her up, but thought that would only
> make her more unhappy and she was generally calmer and happier in the
> yard. Big mistake.
>
> Callie was gone for thirty hours, thirty of the worse hours of my
> life, and returned very late Saturday night limping and with a wound
> on her leg.
> My theory is that, she again tried to follow me, hiding under cars so
> I wouldn't see her (and I looked back extensively, but she can hide
> well) and was probably clipped by a car. The wound - which is healable
> - was scabbed when she returned, so I expect she hid for the night and
> next day and limped home when it was dark again. In other words - I
> almost lost her, if not for luck and her own bright, brave and savvy
> self.
>
> So I'm horrified and torn. I feel like I am endangering Callie's life
> by the emotional distress this adoption is putting her through. She's
> never done anything remotely like this and I don't know what will
> happen next. She's recuperating inside, but both are locked up and
> separated and Callie will only occupy this one room, although she's
> ill and should be on the bed with me in premium comfort. With only
> three legs working, she's still agitating to go outside (which ain't
> gonna happen for a while). Meanwhile, the new cat is confined to the
> bedroom again, with a little underbed universe, and while I can see
> she is slowly starting to trust me a little and come out of her shell,
> she's a long way from mere freedom of motion in a house with two
> adults and another cat. (She won't come out from under the bed if my
> husband enters the bedroom or bathroom, if I move quickly or towards
> her, or if she hears Callie in the house). She's under there a minimum
> of 20 of every 24 hours, and has been since she arrived.
>
> Help! I feel like this is beginning to spiral out of control. My
> husband thinks Flower has to be returned to the no-kill shelter, but I
> look in those little eyes
> (as I'm the only one who see them), and it's so hard for me to betray
> that granule of growing trust. I don't see how we can find an
> alternate home for a cat who's under the bed 20 hours a day. But he's
> right. We can't put Callie's happiness at risk indefinitely. It's not
> fair to take care of this new cat at her expense, especially when the
> primary purpose of the new cat was to make her life better, not to
> ruin it.
>
> Where can we go from here? I'm lost and not sure I can spend another
> month primarily worrying about cats and I'll go out of my mind of
> Callie disappears again - as will he.
>
> I never thought I'd ecen be considering returning a cat to a shelter,
> but I'm running out of other ideas to salvage this situation.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Tracy

Tracy
September 30th 03, 09:14 PM
Just when you think you've hit the bottom .......

I'm really happy to report that things have gotten better!

After a couple of bumps along the way. We kept Callie inside for three
days while she was recuperating and on the 4th day, she broke out of
the house when the mailman delivered a package, and came home
repentant at dinner time, when she proceeded to crawl into my lap and
purr for four hours. Then she asked to be admitted to Flower's "half"
of the house, promptly crawled under the bed to talk to her, and they
both came out and started jumping around the living room together. I
left all the doors open that night, heard some chasing, and in the
morning, they were both sleeping there about a foot from each other
and
smiling :>

So Flower moves! She still is pretty leery about the humans moving
towards her and will only let me pet her while she's very close to the
bed, and picking her up is a no-no, but except for some occasional
mild jousting from time to time, they are co-existing. Once in a
while, they even curl up on the bed together (each on one side of a
queen bed). And I caught them playing soccer with a milk ring
yesterday :>

I'm so relieved :>

Flower watches intently whenever Callie gets cuddled and picked up, so
I think she's thinking about it :>

We are going to let Callie continue to have some outdoor time, as I am
not comfortable removing such a source of joy from her life just to
keep me from having to worry about her, but Flower is strictly indoors
until she calms down.
We are modifying Callie's outdoor time to just the mornings and a few
hours around dinnertime and she has been cooperative with the new
schedule.

It's always darkest before the morning ..... as they say....

Thanks for the advice.

Tracy
September 30th 03, 09:14 PM
Just when you think you've hit the bottom .......

I'm really happy to report that things have gotten better!

After a couple of bumps along the way. We kept Callie inside for three
days while she was recuperating and on the 4th day, she broke out of
the house when the mailman delivered a package, and came home
repentant at dinner time, when she proceeded to crawl into my lap and
purr for four hours. Then she asked to be admitted to Flower's "half"
of the house, promptly crawled under the bed to talk to her, and they
both came out and started jumping around the living room together. I
left all the doors open that night, heard some chasing, and in the
morning, they were both sleeping there about a foot from each other
and
smiling :>

So Flower moves! She still is pretty leery about the humans moving
towards her and will only let me pet her while she's very close to the
bed, and picking her up is a no-no, but except for some occasional
mild jousting from time to time, they are co-existing. Once in a
while, they even curl up on the bed together (each on one side of a
queen bed). And I caught them playing soccer with a milk ring
yesterday :>

I'm so relieved :>

Flower watches intently whenever Callie gets cuddled and picked up, so
I think she's thinking about it :>

We are going to let Callie continue to have some outdoor time, as I am
not comfortable removing such a source of joy from her life just to
keep me from having to worry about her, but Flower is strictly indoors
until she calms down.
We are modifying Callie's outdoor time to just the mornings and a few
hours around dinnertime and she has been cooperative with the new
schedule.

It's always darkest before the morning ..... as they say....

Thanks for the advice.

Tracy
September 30th 03, 09:14 PM
Just when you think you've hit the bottom .......

I'm really happy to report that things have gotten better!

After a couple of bumps along the way. We kept Callie inside for three
days while she was recuperating and on the 4th day, she broke out of
the house when the mailman delivered a package, and came home
repentant at dinner time, when she proceeded to crawl into my lap and
purr for four hours. Then she asked to be admitted to Flower's "half"
of the house, promptly crawled under the bed to talk to her, and they
both came out and started jumping around the living room together. I
left all the doors open that night, heard some chasing, and in the
morning, they were both sleeping there about a foot from each other
and
smiling :>

So Flower moves! She still is pretty leery about the humans moving
towards her and will only let me pet her while she's very close to the
bed, and picking her up is a no-no, but except for some occasional
mild jousting from time to time, they are co-existing. Once in a
while, they even curl up on the bed together (each on one side of a
queen bed). And I caught them playing soccer with a milk ring
yesterday :>

I'm so relieved :>

Flower watches intently whenever Callie gets cuddled and picked up, so
I think she's thinking about it :>

We are going to let Callie continue to have some outdoor time, as I am
not comfortable removing such a source of joy from her life just to
keep me from having to worry about her, but Flower is strictly indoors
until she calms down.
We are modifying Callie's outdoor time to just the mornings and a few
hours around dinnertime and she has been cooperative with the new
schedule.

It's always darkest before the morning ..... as they say....

Thanks for the advice.