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Jane December 1st 06 05:37 PM

Is canned chicken broth okay for cats?
 
I remember reading the onions are all that good for cats, and one of my
friends was thinking about making something with canned chicken broth.
Are the leftovers okay for the cat? She was worried about hurting them.
We both know that onions and carrots and celery are used in the making
of a real chicken stock/broth, but is it enough to hurt the cats? It
never occurred to me, since none of my cats (so far) ate people food.
Her cats do.

Jane
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Matthew December 1st 06 05:47 PM

Is canned chicken broth okay for cats?
 
Onions and onion powder are not and I REPEAT NOT OK for cats it can cause
serious problems

Food items that potentially could be dangerous to pets include onions, onion
powder, chocolate (bakers, semi sweet, milk, dark), alcoholic beverages,
yeast dough, coffee (grounds, beans, chocolate covered espresso beans, tea
(caffeine), salt, macadamia nuts, hops (used in home beer brewing), tomato
leaves and stems (green parts), tomato leaves and stems (green parts),
rhubarb leaves, avocados (toxic to birds, mice, rabbits, horses, cattle, and
dairy goats), cigarettes, cigars, snuff, chewing tobacco, moldy or spoiled
foods.

Onions
Veterinary & Aquatic Services Department, Drs. Foster & Smith, Inc.
http://www.peteducation.com/article....articleid=1108



Onions contain a compound which is toxic to the red blood cells of
cats. The red blood cells are destroyed and this results in anemia. The
specific type of anemia is called 'Heinz body anemia' because the red cells
develop an abnormality called a 'Heinz body' which can be seen under the
microscope.

In the past, when a cat would not eat, baby foods were sometimes used
to coax the cat to eat. Unfortunately, the baby foods contained onion
powder, and some cats developed Heinz body anemia from eating the
onion-containing baby food. Caution should be used in feeding 'human' food
to cats because it may contain ingredients that cats cannot tolerate, such
as onion.

Garlic contains a compound similar to the one in onions that causes
Heinz body anemia, however, the garlic compound is much less toxic.




http://www.aspca.org/site/DocServer/...dInterest=1101

http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer...cc_toxic_onion

http://www.aspca.org/site/Search?query=onion&inc=10

http://www.aspca.org/site/DocServer/...pdf?docID=2082

http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_care/pr...s_to_pets.html




"Jane" wrote in message
ups.com...
I remember reading the onions are all that good for cats, and one of my
friends was thinking about making something with canned chicken broth.
Are the leftovers okay for the cat? She was worried about hurting them.
We both know that onions and carrots and celery are used in the making
of a real chicken stock/broth, but is it enough to hurt the cats? It
never occurred to me, since none of my cats (so far) ate people food.
Her cats do.

Jane
- owned and operated by Princess Rita




[email protected] December 1st 06 08:38 PM

Is canned chicken broth okay for cats?
 

Jane wrote:
I remember reading the onions are all that good for cats, and one of my
friends was thinking about making something with canned chicken broth.
Are the leftovers okay for the cat? She was worried about hurting them.
We both know that onions and carrots and celery are used in the making
of a real chicken stock/broth, but is it enough to hurt the cats? It
never occurred to me, since none of my cats (so far) ate people food.
Her cats do.

Jane



I would imagine the amount of onion powder they would actually ingest
if she's just using the broth as an ingredient would be negligible.
They'd have to have a steady diet of the broth itself before they
suffered any effects from it. IMO. The sodium content might be an
issue though.

Sherry


Dewi December 1st 06 09:03 PM

Is canned chicken broth okay for cats?
 
Matthew wrote:
Onions and onion powder are not and I REPEAT NOT OK for cats it can cause
serious problems

Food items that potentially could be dangerous to pets include onions, onion
powder, chocolate (bakers, semi sweet, milk, dark), alcoholic beverages,
yeast dough, coffee (grounds, beans, chocolate covered espresso beans, tea
(caffeine), salt, macadamia nuts, hops (used in home beer brewing), tomato
leaves and stems (green parts), tomato leaves and stems (green parts),
rhubarb leaves, avocados (toxic to birds, mice, rabbits, horses, cattle, and
dairy goats), cigarettes, cigars, snuff, chewing tobacco, moldy or spoiled
foods.




I read an article on chocolate and dogs and the study reported that dogs
require large doses of chocolate for an adverse reaction (other than
gaining weight). In regards to avocados and mice, it's the skin that's
toxic, the flesh is fine. I regularly feed avocados to my mice and rats,
minus the skin.

Dewi

gracecat December 1st 06 09:53 PM

Is canned chicken broth okay for cats?
 

wrote in message
ps.com...

Jane wrote:
I remember reading the onions are all that good for cats, and one of my
friends was thinking about making something with canned chicken broth.
Are the leftovers okay for the cat? She was worried about hurting them.
We both know that onions and carrots and celery are used in the making
of a real chicken stock/broth, but is it enough to hurt the cats? It
never occurred to me, since none of my cats (so far) ate people food.
Her cats do.

Jane



I would imagine the amount of onion powder they would actually ingest
if she's just using the broth as an ingredient would be negligible.
They'd have to have a steady diet of the broth itself before they
suffered any effects from it. IMO. The sodium content might be an
issue though.

Sherry


I agree. I don't see why chicken broth would be an issue for a one-time-only
treat.

I'd call and check the vet though. The vet would be the best one to
determine what would be appropriate for his or her patient. I know since
ours doesn't have any digestive problems or health related issues, our vet
would probably ok it. But it may be different if the cat has already had
complications of any type.

Grace



gracecat December 1st 06 09:53 PM

Is canned chicken broth okay for cats?
 

"Dewi" wrote in message
...
Matthew wrote:
Onions and onion powder are not and I REPEAT NOT OK for cats it can
cause serious problems

Food items that potentially could be dangerous to pets include onions,
onion powder, chocolate (bakers, semi sweet, milk, dark), alcoholic
beverages, yeast dough, coffee (grounds, beans, chocolate covered
espresso beans, tea (caffeine), salt, macadamia nuts, hops (used in home
beer brewing), tomato leaves and stems (green parts), tomato leaves and
stems (green parts), rhubarb leaves, avocados (toxic to birds, mice,
rabbits, horses, cattle, and dairy goats), cigarettes, cigars, snuff,
chewing tobacco, moldy or spoiled foods.




I read an article on chocolate and dogs and the study reported that dogs
require large doses of chocolate for an adverse reaction (other than
gaining weight). In regards to avocados and mice, it's the skin that's
toxic, the flesh is fine. I regularly feed avocados to my mice and rats,
minus the skin.

Dewi


Depends on the chocolate Dewi :)

White chocolate is perfectly fine, minus the sugar, milk solids and etc. But
the cacoa toxin isn't present.

Milk chocolate, less so than dark, but moreso than white.

Dark chocolate or 60% Cacoa Bean is dangerous in any amount.

I wish I remembered where the scale is, but it detailed how much of what
kind per weight is fatal to cats and dogs.

here it is.
http://www.transportcafe.co.uk/dogchocolate.html




gracecat December 1st 06 09:53 PM

Is canned chicken broth okay for cats?
 

"Dewi" wrote in message
...
Matthew wrote:
Onions and onion powder are not and I REPEAT NOT OK for cats it can
cause serious problems

Food items that potentially could be dangerous to pets include onions,
onion powder, chocolate (bakers, semi sweet, milk, dark), alcoholic
beverages, yeast dough, coffee (grounds, beans, chocolate covered
espresso beans, tea (caffeine), salt, macadamia nuts, hops (used in home
beer brewing), tomato leaves and stems (green parts), tomato leaves and
stems (green parts), rhubarb leaves, avocados (toxic to birds, mice,
rabbits, horses, cattle, and dairy goats), cigarettes, cigars, snuff,
chewing tobacco, moldy or spoiled foods.




I read an article on chocolate and dogs and the study reported that dogs
require large doses of chocolate for an adverse reaction (other than
gaining weight). In regards to avocados and mice, it's the skin that's
toxic, the flesh is fine. I regularly feed avocados to my mice and rats,
minus the skin.

Dewi


Or this one rather :)
http://www.dogownersdigest.com/news/...oisoning.shtml



[email protected] December 1st 06 10:42 PM

Is canned chicken broth okay for cats?
 
gracecat wrote:

Depends on the chocolate Dewi :)


White chocolate is perfectly fine, minus the sugar, milk solids and etc. But
the cacoa toxin isn't present.


That's because white chocolate isn't chocolate at all. I don't know what
it is, but I'm sure someone who does know will say what it is. :) All I
know is that it really has nothing to do with chocolate, so I'm not surprised
that it's safe(r) for pets.

Joyce

gracecat December 1st 06 11:27 PM

Is canned chicken broth okay for cats?
 

wrote in message
...
gracecat wrote:

Depends on the chocolate Dewi :)


White chocolate is perfectly fine, minus the sugar, milk solids and etc.
But
the cacoa toxin isn't present.


That's because white chocolate isn't chocolate at all. I don't know what
it is, but I'm sure someone who does know will say what it is. :) All I
know is that it really has nothing to do with chocolate, so I'm not
surprised
that it's safe(r) for pets.

Joyce


LOL, I just called it the cacoa toxin. Whatever it is in the bean that makes
our furred ones ill :)

Grace



Gandalf December 2nd 06 06:33 AM

Is canned chicken broth okay for cats?
 
On 01 Dec 2006 22:42:50 GMT, wrote:

gracecat wrote:

Depends on the chocolate Dewi :)


White chocolate is perfectly fine, minus the sugar, milk solids and etc. But
the cacoa toxin isn't present.


That's because white chocolate isn't chocolate at all. I don't know what
it is, but I'm sure someone who does know will say what it is. :) All I
know is that it really has nothing to do with chocolate, so I'm not surprised
that it's safe(r) for pets.

Joyce


The substance in chocolate that's toxic to cats and dogs (and likely
other critters I'm not aware of) is theobromine, or by it's IUPAC name:
3,7-dihydro-3,7-dimethyl-1H-purine-2,6-dione. (There will be a quiz
later...).

It's what makes chocolate addictive to humans. It tends to be a 'mood
elevator', but very mild compared to controlled substances.

Because cats are so small, relatively small amounts of chocolate,
especially dark chocolate, can cause seizures and death.

Since some cats and dogs will try just about any 'human food', even if
it's smell doesn't necessarily appeal to them, chocolate should always
be kept away from cats and dogs.

~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Life without cats would be only marginally worth living."
-TC, and the unmercifully, relentlessly, sweet calico kitty, Kenzie.

How you behave towards cats here below determines your status in Heaven.
- Robert Heinlein

Life is very difficult. Once you understand that, life becomes easier.
-Buddha



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