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[email protected] July 9th 08 09:51 AM

Article about cats & dogs in the US
 
I saw a short article in a local paper today about American attitudes
about cats. (I think it was limited to the US just because that's
where the writer is from. I would not assume that his conclusions can
be applied directly to other countries.)

The idea was the cats are America's second-class pets, according to
mainstream social attitudes in this country. Although cats are the
#1 pet in terms of numbers, that doesn't mean they're the most highly
respected pet. I've long suspected this myself. I think a lot of people
get cats because either they live in a situation where they can't have
a dog, or, even more likely, they're too busy. And they figure that a
cat doesn't need much attention. You know, dogs are a lot of work, but
cats are "easy". (Anyone who says this has never tried to groom or
give medication to a cat!)

The information was sad - apparently dogs get vet care in far higher
percentages than cats do. Cats are surrendered to shelters more often
than dogs, and for much more "stupid" reasons (according to the writer -
but I agree). Cats who end up in shelters, who have obviously been
someone's pet, are far less likely to be reunited with their humans
than dogs who are in shelters under the same circumstances.

Other bits of evidence of this differential were things like popular
images of cats vs dogs - cats are portrayed as sneaky or lazy, dogs as
loyal and heroic. It's much more common to see harm coming to a cat in
fiction than to a dog, as though they're more dispensable. Also, there's
a whole lot more veterinary research done on canine health than feline -
this has been true historically and is still true now.

The article didn't deny that millions of people adore cats. But in
spite of that, the average person on the street thinks more highly of
dogs than cats.

I myself have always noticed something on Animal Planet. When watching
either one of the animal cop shows, or veterinary ER, I've noticed that
the tone of the narration, the discussions among the people involved
(animal officers or vets and techs), and even the background music all
have a different quality and convey a different attitude, depending on
whether the animal is a dog or cat.

For example, the crimes against dogs are almost always portrayed as
terrible and serious (which they are), but that isn't always the case
with cats. In situations where no crime has been committed, such as a
dog stuck in deep ditch or a cat stuck in the tree, the former is
usually shown with the seriousness of rescuing a human. But the latter -
cat in a tree - is often shown as almost humorous. This is just my own
impression, but I've formed this opinion over several years of watching
these shows.

Oh, a word of warning for anyone who likes horror/suspense/thriller
type movies: DO NOT see a movie called "Untraceable". It's about a
sadist who tortures someone in front of a camera hooked up to a
website. Every time someone clicks on the link to the site, the
person's pain increases and they come closer to dying.

To introduce us to this character, they show him trying out his
technique on - you guessed it - a kitten. I didn't read the details
about that - I saw something about "kitten torture" and sailed
right on by that paragraph. Just thought I'd spread the word, in
case this type of movie appeals to anyone. (I'm glad it didn't appeal
to me - I do like scary movies, but that one sounded too gruesome.)

--
Joyce ^..^

(To email me, remove the X's from my user name.)

Adrian[_2_] July 9th 08 12:36 PM

Article about cats & dogs in the US
 
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Oh, a word of warning for anyone who likes horror/suspense/thriller
type movies: DO NOT see a movie called "Untraceable". It's about a
sadist who tortures someone in front of a camera hooked up to a
website. Every time someone clicks on the link to the site, the
person's pain increases and they come closer to dying.

To introduce us to this character, they show him trying out his
technique on - you guessed it - a kitten. I didn't read the details
about that - I saw something about "kitten torture" and sailed
right on by that paragraph. Just thought I'd spread the word, in
case this type of movie appeals to anyone. (I'm glad it didn't appeal
to me - I do like scary movies, but that one sounded too gruesome.)


Thanks for the warning, I'll avoid that movie like the plague.
--
Adrian (Owned by Snoopy, Bagheera & Shadow)
Cats leave pawprints on your heart
http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk



Flippy[_4_] July 9th 08 01:14 PM

Article about cats & dogs in the US
 
snip
Oh, a word of warning for anyone who likes horror/suspense/thriller
type movies: DO NOT see a movie called "Untraceable". It's about a
sadist who tortures someone in front of a camera hooked up to a
website. Every time someone clicks on the link to the site, the
person's pain increases and they come closer to dying.

To introduce us to this character, they show him trying out his
technique on - you guessed it - a kitten. I didn't read the details
about that - I saw something about "kitten torture" and sailed
right on by that paragraph. Just thought I'd spread the word, in
case this type of movie appeals to anyone. (I'm glad it didn't appeal
to me - I do like scary movies, but that one sounded too gruesome.)


Ooops, too late. I saw that movie and was sorry I did. I didn't know about
the torture scenes until it was too late. It certainly was gruesome.

Flippy.




Victor Martinez July 9th 08 01:38 PM

Article about cats & dogs in the US
 
wrote:
Oh, a word of warning for anyone who likes horror/suspense/thriller
type movies: DO NOT see a movie called "Untraceable". It's about a


Thank you for the warning, I'm removing that movie from my Netflix queue.

--
Victor M. Martinez
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Lorraine July 9th 08 03:19 PM

Article about cats & dogs in the US
 
On 09 Jul 2008 08:51:58 GMT, wrote:

Oh, a word of warning for anyone who likes horror/suspense/thriller
type movies: DO NOT see a movie called "Untraceable".


Thank you very much for the warning. I thought I would like this movie.
Somehow I missed the torture aspect of it. Human or animal, I can do
without.

Lorraine

kilikini July 9th 08 03:25 PM

Article about cats & dogs in the US
 
wrote:

Oh, a word of warning for anyone who likes horror/suspense/thriller
type movies: DO NOT see a movie called "Untraceable". It's about a
sadist who tortures someone in front of a camera hooked up to a
website. Every time someone clicks on the link to the site, the
person's pain increases and they come closer to dying.

To introduce us to this character, they show him trying out his
technique on - you guessed it - a kitten. I didn't read the details
about that - I saw something about "kitten torture" and sailed
right on by that paragraph. Just thought I'd spread the word, in
case this type of movie appeals to anyone. (I'm glad it didn't appeal
to me - I do like scary movies, but that one sounded too gruesome.)


I saw that movie and couldn't remember what it was about until you reminded
me. I think I blocked it out. It was really gruesome. shudder

kili



Joy July 9th 08 07:25 PM

Article about cats & dogs in the US
 
wrote in message
...
I saw a short article in a local paper today about American attitudes
about cats. (I think it was limited to the US just because that's
where the writer is from. I would not assume that his conclusions can
be applied directly to other countries.)

The idea was the cats are America's second-class pets, according to
mainstream social attitudes in this country. Although cats are the
#1 pet in terms of numbers, that doesn't mean they're the most highly
respected pet. I've long suspected this myself. I think a lot of people
get cats because either they live in a situation where they can't have
a dog, or, even more likely, they're too busy. And they figure that a
cat doesn't need much attention. You know, dogs are a lot of work, but
cats are "easy". (Anyone who says this has never tried to groom or
give medication to a cat!)

The information was sad - apparently dogs get vet care in far higher
percentages than cats do. Cats are surrendered to shelters more often
than dogs, and for much more "stupid" reasons (according to the writer -
but I agree). Cats who end up in shelters, who have obviously been
someone's pet, are far less likely to be reunited with their humans
than dogs who are in shelters under the same circumstances.

Other bits of evidence of this differential were things like popular
images of cats vs dogs - cats are portrayed as sneaky or lazy, dogs as
loyal and heroic. It's much more common to see harm coming to a cat in
fiction than to a dog, as though they're more dispensable. Also, there's
a whole lot more veterinary research done on canine health than feline -
this has been true historically and is still true now.

The article didn't deny that millions of people adore cats. But in
spite of that, the average person on the street thinks more highly of
dogs than cats.

I myself have always noticed something on Animal Planet. When watching
either one of the animal cop shows, or veterinary ER, I've noticed that
the tone of the narration, the discussions among the people involved
(animal officers or vets and techs), and even the background music all
have a different quality and convey a different attitude, depending on
whether the animal is a dog or cat.

For example, the crimes against dogs are almost always portrayed as
terrible and serious (which they are), but that isn't always the case
with cats. In situations where no crime has been committed, such as a
dog stuck in deep ditch or a cat stuck in the tree, the former is
usually shown with the seriousness of rescuing a human. But the latter -
cat in a tree - is often shown as almost humorous. This is just my own
impression, but I've formed this opinion over several years of watching
these shows.

Oh, a word of warning for anyone who likes horror/suspense/thriller
type movies: DO NOT see a movie called "Untraceable". It's about a
sadist who tortures someone in front of a camera hooked up to a
website. Every time someone clicks on the link to the site, the
person's pain increases and they come closer to dying.

To introduce us to this character, they show him trying out his
technique on - you guessed it - a kitten. I didn't read the details
about that - I saw something about "kitten torture" and sailed
right on by that paragraph. Just thought I'd spread the word, in
case this type of movie appeals to anyone. (I'm glad it didn't appeal
to me - I do like scary movies, but that one sounded too gruesome.)

--
Joyce ^..^


Thanks for the warning. There was a possibility I might have seen it
sometime. Now I definitely won't.

Joy



Pat[_2_] July 9th 08 09:18 PM

Article about cats & dogs in the US
 

wrote

| the average person on the street thinks more highly of
| dogs than cats.

It would not bother me in the least if dogs ceased to exist. I can't say
that about cats.

| I do like scary movies

Try "Miracle Mile". Skip the spoilers, just watch it.




[email protected] July 10th 08 12:34 AM

Article about cats & dogs in the US
 
Pat wrote:

Try "Miracle Mile". Skip the spoilers, just watch it.


I looked this up in the Internet Movie Database, and found that
there are 4 movies by this title. I'm thinking you must mean the
one that's about a nuclear attack, since that was the only one
that seemed really scary. There's a noir crime movie by that name,
but it didn't sound particularly scary.

I didn't read any reviews or plot synopses, so if that's it, I'll
try it. Just promise me there's no animal cruelty, because I'm really
sick of coming across that in movies!!

--
Joyce ^..^

(To email me, remove the X's from my user name.)

Pat[_2_] July 10th 08 03:51 AM

Article about cats & dogs in the US
 

wrote

| Try "Miracle Mile". Skip the spoilers, just watch it.
|
| I looked this up in the Internet Movie Database, and found that
| there are 4 movies by this title. I'm thinking you must mean the
| one that's about a nuclear attack, since that was the only one
| that seemed really scary. There's a noir crime movie by that name,
| but it didn't sound particularly scary.
|
| I didn't read any reviews or plot synopses, so if that's it, I'll
| try it. Just promise me there's no animal cruelty, because I'm really
| sick of coming across that in movies!!

No animals at all. And yes, it's the one about a nuke attack.




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