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catsruleok August 19th 03 11:15 PM

I should feel honoured but I don't
 
Hi all,

I'm writing this while feeling very angry . The reason why will soon become clear.

As you know, I'm very keen on photographing my cats and have posted many of their pics on the
Internet. One site I use is Webshots. I know that when I post there I can only post photos that I
have taken. If I did otherwise, I would infringe American copyright law and if Webshots found out
about it, they would remove any pic that was not mine.

Today, I received from Webshots, an email telling me that they had removed one of my pics of Thalia
because by posting it, I *had* infringed copyright law I should be honoured that someone thinks
one of my photos good enough to want to claim as their own work but I'm not. I'm absolutely furious.
And if they're selling that photo, I'll be more than that.

Whatsmore, Webshots have told me that if I breach copyright law *again*, they'll consider removing
all my albums from their site

Webshots has told me that I can try to prove to them my innocence. I hope that all the info I can
send them will be enough to satisfy them. If it does, I hope they'll secure on my behalf redress
from the person (I really want to say b*** **d) who has told them that my pic is theirs.. If
Webshots aren't willing to do this, I don't know what, if anything I can do. Should this situation
arise, would any one of you be able and willing to offer me advice on what , if anything, I can do.

Many thanks for reading.

Love to you all.

Sheenah.




Karen Chuplis August 19th 03 11:18 PM

Soothing thoughts and purrs this is ironed out easily and soon.

Karen



Brenda Watkins August 19th 03 11:18 PM


"catsruleok" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I'm writing this while feeling very angry . The reason why will soon

become clear.

As you know, I'm very keen on photographing my cats and have posted many

of their pics on the
Internet. One site I use is Webshots. I know that when I post there I

can only post photos that I
have taken. If I did otherwise, I would infringe American copyright law

and if Webshots found out
about it, they would remove any pic that was not mine.

Today, I received from Webshots, an email telling me that they had removed

one of my pics of Thalia
because by posting it, I *had* infringed copyright law I should be

honoured that someone thinks
one of my photos good enough to want to claim as their own work but I'm

not. I'm absolutely furious.
And if they're selling that photo, I'll be more than that.

Whatsmore, Webshots have told me that if I breach copyright law *again*,

they'll consider removing
all my albums from their site

Webshots has told me that I can try to prove to them my innocence. I hope

that all the info I can
send them will be enough to satisfy them. If it does, I hope they'll

secure on my behalf redress
from the person (I really want to say b*** **d) who has told them that my

pic is theirs.. If
Webshots aren't willing to do this, I don't know what, if anything I can

do. Should this situation
arise, would any one of you be able and willing to offer me advice on what

, if anything, I can do.

Many thanks for reading.

Love to you all.

Sheenah.



I don't have any advice, Sheenah, but I'd certainly be willing to vouch for
your honesty!
Brenda



Lois Reay August 20th 03 12:10 AM


"catsruleok" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I'm writing this while feeling very angry . The reason why will soon

become clear.
Whatsmore, Webshots have told me that if I breach copyright law *again*,
they'll consider removing
all my albums from their site

Webshots has told me that I can try to prove to them my innocence. I hope

that all the info I can
Sheenah.


I see guilty until proved innocent, that just doesn't seem fair and goes
against all the laws - do you have there some sort of community office where
you can get free advice (from a lawyer) we have them here.
Hope you get this resolved asap.
Purrs
Lois



Victor M. Martinez August 20th 03 12:24 AM

catsruleok wrote:
Webshots has told me that I can try to prove to them my innocence. I hope that all the info I can
send them will be enough to satisfy them. If it does, I hope they'll secure on my behalf redress


I'm sorry, I'm not a lawyer but I'm pretty sure the burden of proof is on the
accusing side under US law. You should not have to prove your innocense at all!

--
Victor M. Martinez

http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv


fuga =^o^= August 20th 03 01:02 AM

I agree with Victor, I think it's their responsiblity to prove that your
picture is an infringement on someone's copyright.. I have to admit, I got
fed up with Webshots.

I hope you are able to resolve this shortly.

Hugs,

Fuga



Mary August 20th 03 02:40 AM

Webshots has told me that I can try to prove to them my innocence. I hope
that all the info I can
send them will be enough to satisfy them. If it does, I hope they'll secure
on my behalf redress
from the person (I really want to say b*** **d)


Sounds like perhaps there is just a nasty jealous person out there trying to
cause you harm and distress by filing a false report. I doubt a real
photographer would confuse one of your picks with theirs. A photographer also
has to pay to copyright each photo if they truly want it legally copyrighted. I
know some pros. They will have to show their copyright to that specific pic in
order for it to be enforced. I doubt they can do that. Sounds like it's just a
jerk. I'm sure you can show other pics of your cat and the large original file.
That should satisfy them. It's not like you rented your cat out for a photo
shoot for someone else.

Hopitus2 August 20th 03 03:38 AM

I fail to understand the entire concept! If this website consists of pics of
cats (or other pets) who's to say *your* cat is not who he is? Example: BT
Rowdy, although possessing a blind and unattractive left eye, looks like a
billion other brown-colored mackeral tabbies; Sylvie is a doppelganger for
any other tuxedo (except for her multiple toes!) and many other cats look
the same......what is the rationale of this outfit to accuse you thus?



"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
...
:
:
: Mary wrote:
:
: Webshots has told me that I can try to prove to them my innocence. I
hope
: that all the info I can
: send them will be enough to satisfy them. If it does, I hope they'll
secure
: on my behalf redress
: from the person (I really want to say b*** **d)
:
: Sounds like perhaps there is just a nasty jealous person out there
trying to
: cause you harm and distress by filing a false report. I doubt a real
: photographer would confuse one of your picks with theirs. A photographer
also
: has to pay to copyright each photo if they truly want it legally
copyrighted. I
: know some pros. They will have to show their copyright to that specific
pic in
: order for it to be enforced. I doubt they can do that. Sounds like it's
just a
: jerk. I'm sure you can show other pics of your cat and the large
original file.
: That should satisfy them. It's not like you rented your cat out for a
photo
: shoot for someone else.
:
: Don't you have the negative? (Or whatever substitutes for one in a
: digital camera?) It would be pretty hard to forge the original from
: which you uploaded the picture!



LOL August 20th 03 04:43 AM

"catsruleok" wrote in message ...
Hi all,

I'm writing this while feeling very angry . The reason why will soon become clear.

As you know, I'm very keen on photographing my cats and have posted many of their pics on the
Internet. One site I use is Webshots. I know that when I post there I can only post photos that I
have taken. If I did otherwise, I would infringe American copyright law and if Webshots found out
about it, they would remove any pic that was not mine.

Today, I received from Webshots, an email telling me that they had removed one of my pics of Thalia
because by posting it, I *had* infringed copyright law I should be honoured that someone thinks
one of my photos good enough to want to claim as their own work but I'm not. I'm absolutely furious.
And if they're selling that photo, I'll be more than that.

Whatsmore, Webshots have told me that if I breach copyright law *again*, they'll consider removing
all my albums from their site

Webshots has told me that I can try to prove to them my innocence. I hope that all the info I can
send them will be enough to satisfy them. If it does, I hope they'll secure on my behalf redress
from the person (I really want to say b*** **d) who has told them that my pic is theirs.. If
Webshots aren't willing to do this, I don't know what, if anything I can do. Should this situation
arise, would any one of you be able and willing to offer me advice on what , if anything, I can do.

Many thanks for reading.

Love to you all.

Sheenah.




I don't have any advice or any idea what to do, but can only imagine
your frustration. Mike is sending soothing purrs, and has instructed
me to start saving up the contents of the litterbox towards the time
when the culprit is revealed. I do hope you get satisfaction soon.

------
Krista

Byron & Christine Burel August 20th 03 05:25 AM

Sheenah,
I'm so sorry you've had something stupid and petty like this happen. I am
sending major hugs and purrs from us and also Byron had some suggestions
that he emailed you.
love,
Christine




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