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Christina Websell October 20th 15 12:39 AM

Someone Lost a Bird
 

"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
Where I live there is a listserv - a fairly antiquated method of
communicating with people who live on Dataw. Yesterday evening we got
this:

"If anyone happens to see a Blue and Gold Macaw down around the fitness
center please let me know. This bird is not supposed to be able to fly,
but obviously she can."

Uh oh! It sounds to me like someone was pet sitting and left the door
open. One should never assume birds can't fly. I got some of my best pet
birds (parakeets) as a kid because someone made that assumption.

Macaws are extremely expensive tropical birds. I wouldn't want to be the
one who has to explain ooops, I lost your Macaw.

Jill


Maybe they lost their own bird? Perhaps they clipped its wing feathers and
forgot they grow back. I'm not in favour of clipping wings of parrots so
they can't fly. All birds are born to fly and should be able to do so.
It's not acceptable (for me) to clip a parrots wings so that it can only
walk about the house. It's along with declawing. My opinion only, feel
free to disagree and argue the point.

Tweed




dgk October 20th 15 03:51 AM

Someone Lost a Bird
 
On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 00:39:06 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
Where I live there is a listserv - a fairly antiquated method of
communicating with people who live on Dataw. Yesterday evening we got
this:

"If anyone happens to see a Blue and Gold Macaw down around the fitness
center please let me know. This bird is not supposed to be able to fly,
but obviously she can."

Uh oh! It sounds to me like someone was pet sitting and left the door
open. One should never assume birds can't fly. I got some of my best pet
birds (parakeets) as a kid because someone made that assumption.

Macaws are extremely expensive tropical birds. I wouldn't want to be the
one who has to explain ooops, I lost your Macaw.

Jill


Maybe they lost their own bird? Perhaps they clipped its wing feathers and
forgot they grow back. I'm not in favour of clipping wings of parrots so
they can't fly. All birds are born to fly and should be able to do so.
It's not acceptable (for me) to clip a parrots wings so that it can only
walk about the house. It's along with declawing. My opinion only, feel
free to disagree and argue the point.

Tweed


I don't know if I'd do that, I suspect not, but declawing is permanent
and clipping isn't as someone found out.

jmcquown[_2_] October 20th 15 05:41 AM

Someone Lost a Bird
 
On 10/19/2015 10:51 PM, dgk wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 00:39:06 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
Where I live there is a listserv - a fairly antiquated method of
communicating with people who live on Dataw. Yesterday evening we got
this:

"If anyone happens to see a Blue and Gold Macaw down around the fitness
center please let me know. This bird is not supposed to be able to fly,
but obviously she can."

Uh oh! It sounds to me like someone was pet sitting and left the door
open. One should never assume birds can't fly. I got some of my best pet
birds (parakeets) as a kid because someone made that assumption.

Macaws are extremely expensive tropical birds. I wouldn't want to be the
one who has to explain ooops, I lost your Macaw.

Jill


Maybe they lost their own bird? Perhaps they clipped its wing feathers and
forgot they grow back. I'm not in favour of clipping wings of parrots so
they can't fly. All birds are born to fly and should be able to do so.
It's not acceptable (for me) to clip a parrots wings so that it can only
walk about the house. It's along with declawing. My opinion only, feel
free to disagree and argue the point.

Tweed


I don't know if I'd do that, I suspect not, but declawing is permanent
and clipping isn't as someone found out.

I was right, the woman was pet sitting. Fortunately the Macaw came
back, safe and sound. I offered her a few suggestions such as sitting
outside calling to it by name (they're very smart birds) and also
tempting it with some sunflower seeds.

And no, clipping feathers is absolutely not the same as declawing. You
only clip the tips of the flight feathers on one wing. Clipping that
way still allows them to fly, just not very far. Birds molt; their
feathers grow back. All my birds were allowed to fly around the house
if they wanted to. Just don't leave the door open.

Jill

MaryL[_2_] October 20th 15 03:17 PM

Someone Lost a Bird
 
On 10/19/2015 11:41 PM, jmcquown wrote:
On 10/19/2015 10:51 PM, dgk wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 00:39:06 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
Where I live there is a listserv - a fairly antiquated method of
communicating with people who live on Dataw. Yesterday evening we got
this:

"If anyone happens to see a Blue and Gold Macaw down around the fitness
center please let me know. This bird is not supposed to be able to
fly,
but obviously she can."

Uh oh! It sounds to me like someone was pet sitting and left the door
open. One should never assume birds can't fly. I got some of my
best pet
birds (parakeets) as a kid because someone made that assumption.

Macaws are extremely expensive tropical birds. I wouldn't want to
be the
one who has to explain ooops, I lost your Macaw.

Jill

Maybe they lost their own bird? Perhaps they clipped its wing
feathers and
forgot they grow back. I'm not in favour of clipping wings of
parrots so
they can't fly. All birds are born to fly and should be able to do so.
It's not acceptable (for me) to clip a parrots wings so that it can only
walk about the house. It's along with declawing. My opinion only, feel
free to disagree and argue the point.

Tweed


I don't know if I'd do that, I suspect not, but declawing is permanent
and clipping isn't as someone found out.

I was right, the woman was pet sitting. Fortunately the Macaw came
back, safe and sound. I offered her a few suggestions such as sitting
outside calling to it by name (they're very smart birds) and also
tempting it with some sunflower seeds.

And no, clipping feathers is absolutely not the same as declawing. You
only clip the tips of the flight feathers on one wing. Clipping that
way still allows them to fly, just not very far. Birds molt; their
feathers grow back. All my birds were allowed to fly around the house
if they wanted to. Just don't leave the door open.

Jill


We had parakeets when I was a youngster. They were free to fly around
the house for long periods of time. My father took a picture of me
while I was doing my homework, and the parakeet perched on the side of
my eyeglasses.

MaryL


jmcquown[_2_] October 20th 15 03:23 PM

Someone Lost a Bird
 
On 10/20/2015 10:17 AM, MaryL wrote:
On 10/19/2015 11:41 PM, jmcquown wrote:
On 10/19/2015 10:51 PM, dgk wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 00:39:06 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
Where I live there is a listserv - a fairly antiquated method of
communicating with people who live on Dataw. Yesterday evening we got
this:

"If anyone happens to see a Blue and Gold Macaw down around the
fitness
center please let me know. This bird is not supposed to be able to
fly,
but obviously she can."

Uh oh! It sounds to me like someone was pet sitting and left the door
open. One should never assume birds can't fly. I got some of my
best pet
birds (parakeets) as a kid because someone made that assumption.

Macaws are extremely expensive tropical birds. I wouldn't want to
be the
one who has to explain ooops, I lost your Macaw.

Jill

Maybe they lost their own bird? Perhaps they clipped its wing
feathers and
forgot they grow back. I'm not in favour of clipping wings of
parrots so
they can't fly. All birds are born to fly and should be able to do so.
It's not acceptable (for me) to clip a parrots wings so that it can
only
walk about the house. It's along with declawing. My opinion only,
feel
free to disagree and argue the point.

Tweed


I don't know if I'd do that, I suspect not, but declawing is permanent
and clipping isn't as someone found out.

I was right, the woman was pet sitting. Fortunately the Macaw came
back, safe and sound. I offered her a few suggestions such as sitting
outside calling to it by name (they're very smart birds) and also
tempting it with some sunflower seeds.

And no, clipping feathers is absolutely not the same as declawing. You
only clip the tips of the flight feathers on one wing. Clipping that
way still allows them to fly, just not very far. Birds molt; their
feathers grow back. All my birds were allowed to fly around the house
if they wanted to. Just don't leave the door open.

Jill


We had parakeets when I was a youngster. They were free to fly around
the house for long periods of time. My father took a picture of me
while I was doing my homework, and the parakeet perched on the side of
my eyeglasses.

MaryL

My parakeet Buddy pecked at my eyeglasses. He also used to like to play
with the chain I wore around my neck. I grew up with birds so I know a
bit about them. And yes, they flew around the house.

Jill

Christina Websell October 20th 15 06:47 PM

Someone Lost a Bird
 

"dgk" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 00:39:06 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
Where I live there is a listserv - a fairly antiquated method of
communicating with people who live on Dataw. Yesterday evening we got
this:

"If anyone happens to see a Blue and Gold Macaw down around the fitness
center please let me know. This bird is not supposed to be able to fly,
but obviously she can."

Uh oh! It sounds to me like someone was pet sitting and left the door
open. One should never assume birds can't fly. I got some of my best
pet
birds (parakeets) as a kid because someone made that assumption.

Macaws are extremely expensive tropical birds. I wouldn't want to be
the
one who has to explain ooops, I lost your Macaw.

Jill


Maybe they lost their own bird? Perhaps they clipped its wing feathers
and
forgot they grow back. I'm not in favour of clipping wings of parrots so
they can't fly. All birds are born to fly and should be able to do so.
It's not acceptable (for me) to clip a parrots wings so that it can only
walk about the house. It's along with declawing. My opinion only, feel
free to disagree and argue the point.

Tweed


I don't know if I'd do that, I suspect not, but declawing is permanent
and clipping isn't as someone found out.


Ok, wing-clipping is not permanent, I have to agree. But why are these
wonderful birds disabled by this so they can be pets? and just walk around?
Birds need to fly. IMHO.
BTW, don't have a Macaw unless you've made arrangements in your will for
someone else to take it on after you die. They can live for up to 80
years.




MaryL[_2_] October 20th 15 11:02 PM

Someone Lost a Bird
 
On 10/20/2015 12:47 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"dgk" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 00:39:06 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
Where I live there is a listserv - a fairly antiquated method of
communicating with people who live on Dataw. Yesterday evening we got
this:

"If anyone happens to see a Blue and Gold Macaw down around the fitness
center please let me know. This bird is not supposed to be able to fly,
but obviously she can."

Uh oh! It sounds to me like someone was pet sitting and left the door
open. One should never assume birds can't fly. I got some of my best
pet
birds (parakeets) as a kid because someone made that assumption.

Macaws are extremely expensive tropical birds. I wouldn't want to be
the
one who has to explain ooops, I lost your Macaw.

Jill

Maybe they lost their own bird? Perhaps they clipped its wing feathers
and
forgot they grow back. I'm not in favour of clipping wings of parrots so
they can't fly. All birds are born to fly and should be able to do so.
It's not acceptable (for me) to clip a parrots wings so that it can only
walk about the house. It's along with declawing. My opinion only, feel
free to disagree and argue the point.

Tweed


I don't know if I'd do that, I suspect not, but declawing is permanent
and clipping isn't as someone found out.


Ok, wing-clipping is not permanent, I have to agree. But why are these
wonderful birds disabled by this so they can be pets? and just walk around?
Birds need to fly. IMHO.
BTW, don't have a Macaw unless you've made arrangements in your will for
someone else to take it on after you die. They can live for up to 80
years.




I agree that arrangements should be in a will, but I even think that
should be done for *any* pet, regardless of expected lifespan. I have
provisions in my will for Duffy, Selina and Nikki.

MaryL


Joy[_3_] October 20th 15 11:26 PM

Someone Lost a Bird
 
On 10/20/2015 3:02 PM, MaryL wrote:
On 10/20/2015 12:47 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"dgk" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 00:39:06 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
Where I live there is a listserv - a fairly antiquated method of
communicating with people who live on Dataw. Yesterday evening we got
this:

"If anyone happens to see a Blue and Gold Macaw down around the
fitness
center please let me know. This bird is not supposed to be able to
fly,
but obviously she can."

Uh oh! It sounds to me like someone was pet sitting and left the door
open. One should never assume birds can't fly. I got some of my best
pet
birds (parakeets) as a kid because someone made that assumption.

Macaws are extremely expensive tropical birds. I wouldn't want to be
the
one who has to explain ooops, I lost your Macaw.

Jill

Maybe they lost their own bird? Perhaps they clipped its wing feathers
and
forgot they grow back. I'm not in favour of clipping wings of
parrots so
they can't fly. All birds are born to fly and should be able to do so.
It's not acceptable (for me) to clip a parrots wings so that it can
only
walk about the house. It's along with declawing. My opinion only,
feel
free to disagree and argue the point.

Tweed


I don't know if I'd do that, I suspect not, but declawing is permanent
and clipping isn't as someone found out.


Ok, wing-clipping is not permanent, I have to agree. But why are these
wonderful birds disabled by this so they can be pets? and just walk
around?
Birds need to fly. IMHO.
BTW, don't have a Macaw unless you've made arrangements in your will for
someone else to take it on after you die. They can live for up to 80
years.




I agree that arrangements should be in a will, but I even think that
should be done for *any* pet, regardless of expected lifespan. I have
provisions in my will for Duffy, Selina and Nikki.

MaryL


I don't have anything in my will, but my kids live relatively nearby,
and will be handling my estate when the time comes. They are both
animal people, cats in particular, so I know they'll see that whatever
cats I have at the time get the best possible care.

Joy

jmcquown[_2_] October 21st 15 01:59 PM

Someone Lost a Bird
 
On 10/20/2015 1:47 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
Ok, wing-clipping is not permanent, I have to agree. But why are these
wonderful birds disabled by this so they can be pets? and just walk around?
Birds need to fly. IMHO.


You don't clip all their feathers. Just the flight feathers on one
wing. They can still fly, just not very far. All my birds were allowed
to fly around the house if they wanted to.

Jill

jmcquown[_2_] October 21st 15 02:18 PM

Someone Lost a Bird
 
On 10/20/2015 6:02 PM, MaryL wrote:
I agree that arrangements should be in a will, but I even think that
should be done for *any* pet, regardless of expected lifespan. I have
provisions in my will for Duffy, Selina and Nikki.

MaryL


No arrangements had been made by Buffy's former owner. Turns out there
were three cats, SuzQ, Buffy and Frankie. Fortunately when the woman
died a friend of hers went to the house every day and took care of the
cats. (I got the feeling she wasn't really a cat person.) Someone
adopted SuzQ but, for reasons never made clear, they returned her.

I adopted Buffy and she's an absolute joy. :)

I don't know where SuzQ and Frankie wound up. I do know the woman got
tired of taking care of the cats. I think she found someone else to
take them on a temporary basis.

What would happen to Buffy if I dropped dead tomorrow? I don't have it
in writing but my friend who lives next door would take her.

Jill


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