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Tonkinese MUST go (and has)
A couple of months ago, I asked for assistance in finding a home for a six
year old female Tonkinese cat that would periodically urinate in large quantities on the carpet, pillows, mattresses, etc., even with a clean cat box nearby and a clean bill of health. The damage was becoming intolerable as was behavior that included one incident where the cat walked across the bed with my wife and I in it, and left a two foot long swath of urine across my legs. We very nearly lost a brand new $1500 mattress. The decision was made to find another home for the cat, and while some here sympathized with our plight, others could only direct their energy toward trying to assail me for not continuing to house the cat, not sinking limitless funds into finding out what was causing the problem, and one person who felt I ought to just tolerate and live with the damage. The former group was most helpful of course, and one of the recommendations those people gave me was to talk to the breeder. I did that, and the breeder has taken the cat. We were under the impression this was not possible, but because of what was said here, we talked to the breeder again, and found she would take the cat back. The cat is now back in the home it was born and raised in. However, the breeder said that unless the problem can be cured, she will have to make tough decisions regarding this cat's future. I can completely understand that, given the hell the cat put us through. To those who truly tried to help me a couple of months ago, thank you. You made the difference. I could have taken easier ways to deal with the problem, but did not. Fact is, we had to hang on to the cat for weeks since the breeder was out of town, so waited until she got back. To those who tried to assail me on my actions with the cat, understand the rantings achieve absolutely nothing and may only serve to anger the cat owner enough to do the very kinds of thing you abhor. I could have become angered enough to stop looking at this newsgroup, possibly missing some good suggestions, and taking other actions with the cat that no one would want. I continued to look at the newsgroup only because I recognized that most people were trying to help and was able to ignore the extremist responses, mostly because they were so silly and clearly the rantings of a lunatic fringe. Again, to those that offered reasonable suggestions, thank you. The cat is certainly in a better place thanks to you. - Phil |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 19:00:10 GMT, "Phil" , wrote:
A couple of months ago, I asked for assistance in finding a home for a six year old female Tonkinese cat that would periodically urinate in large quantities on the carpet, pillows, mattresses, etc., even with a clean cat box nearby and a clean bill of health. The damage was becoming intolerable as was behavior that included one incident where the cat walked across the bed with my wife and I in it, and left a two foot long swath of urine across my legs. We very nearly lost a brand new $1500 mattress. The decision was made to find another home for the cat, and while some here sympathized with our plight, others could only direct their energy toward trying to assail me for not continuing to house the cat, not sinking limitless funds into finding out what was causing the problem, and one person who felt I ought to just tolerate and live with the damage. The former group was most helpful of course, and one of the recommendations those people gave me was to talk to the breeder. I did that, and the breeder has taken the cat. We were under the impression this was not possible, but because of what was said here, we talked to the breeder again, and found she would take the cat back. The cat is now back in the home it was born and raised in. However, the breeder said that unless the problem can be cured, she will have to make tough decisions regarding this cat's future. I can completely understand that, given the hell the cat put us through. To those who truly tried to help me a couple of months ago, thank you. You made the difference. I could have taken easier ways to deal with the problem, but did not. Fact is, we had to hang on to the cat for weeks since the breeder was out of town, so waited until she got back. To those who tried to assail me on my actions with the cat, understand the rantings achieve absolutely nothing and may only serve to anger the cat owner enough to do the very kinds of thing you abhor. I could have become angered enough to stop looking at this newsgroup, possibly missing some good suggestions, and taking other actions with the cat that no one would want. I continued to look at the newsgroup only because I recognized that most people were trying to help and was able to ignore the extremist responses, mostly because they were so silly and clearly the rantings of a lunatic fringe. Again, to those that offered reasonable suggestions, thank you. The cat is certainly in a better place thanks to you. - Phil You did the right thing. I congratulate you on being responsible and making sure the cat was taken care of by someone better equipped to handle the situation. I've been lurking on this group for some time and I am sorry that reasonable people like you have to bear the excoriation of irrational individuals who do not realize the responsibilities of pet ownership (while great) do not and should not extend to prioritizing the animal's care over the owner's happiness and well being. Shame on them for insisting on a situation that could have negative effects on other people's lives as well as the lives of the cats they supposedly care so much about. Cosmola |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 19:00:10 GMT, "Phil" , wrote:
A couple of months ago, I asked for assistance in finding a home for a six year old female Tonkinese cat that would periodically urinate in large quantities on the carpet, pillows, mattresses, etc., even with a clean cat box nearby and a clean bill of health. The damage was becoming intolerable as was behavior that included one incident where the cat walked across the bed with my wife and I in it, and left a two foot long swath of urine across my legs. We very nearly lost a brand new $1500 mattress. The decision was made to find another home for the cat, and while some here sympathized with our plight, others could only direct their energy toward trying to assail me for not continuing to house the cat, not sinking limitless funds into finding out what was causing the problem, and one person who felt I ought to just tolerate and live with the damage. The former group was most helpful of course, and one of the recommendations those people gave me was to talk to the breeder. I did that, and the breeder has taken the cat. We were under the impression this was not possible, but because of what was said here, we talked to the breeder again, and found she would take the cat back. The cat is now back in the home it was born and raised in. However, the breeder said that unless the problem can be cured, she will have to make tough decisions regarding this cat's future. I can completely understand that, given the hell the cat put us through. To those who truly tried to help me a couple of months ago, thank you. You made the difference. I could have taken easier ways to deal with the problem, but did not. Fact is, we had to hang on to the cat for weeks since the breeder was out of town, so waited until she got back. To those who tried to assail me on my actions with the cat, understand the rantings achieve absolutely nothing and may only serve to anger the cat owner enough to do the very kinds of thing you abhor. I could have become angered enough to stop looking at this newsgroup, possibly missing some good suggestions, and taking other actions with the cat that no one would want. I continued to look at the newsgroup only because I recognized that most people were trying to help and was able to ignore the extremist responses, mostly because they were so silly and clearly the rantings of a lunatic fringe. Again, to those that offered reasonable suggestions, thank you. The cat is certainly in a better place thanks to you. - Phil You did the right thing. I congratulate you on being responsible and making sure the cat was taken care of by someone better equipped to handle the situation. I've been lurking on this group for some time and I am sorry that reasonable people like you have to bear the excoriation of irrational individuals who do not realize the responsibilities of pet ownership (while great) do not and should not extend to prioritizing the animal's care over the owner's happiness and well being. Shame on them for insisting on a situation that could have negative effects on other people's lives as well as the lives of the cats they supposedly care so much about. Cosmola |
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I can see why some might be mad. It seems a lot of humans have taken to
dumping a cat off in a shelter or having them re-homed because they care more about objects than they do the animal. "Cosmola" wrote in message ... On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 19:00:10 GMT, "Phil" , wrote: A couple of months ago, I asked for assistance in finding a home for a six year old female Tonkinese cat that would periodically urinate in large quantities on the carpet, pillows, mattresses, etc., even with a clean cat box nearby and a clean bill of health. The damage was becoming intolerable as was behavior that included one incident where the cat walked across the bed with my wife and I in it, and left a two foot long swath of urine across my legs. We very nearly lost a brand new $1500 mattress. The decision was made to find another home for the cat, and while some here sympathized with our plight, others could only direct their energy toward trying to assail me for not continuing to house the cat, not sinking limitless funds into finding out what was causing the problem, and one person who felt I ought to just tolerate and live with the damage. The former group was most helpful of course, and one of the recommendations those people gave me was to talk to the breeder. I did that, and the breeder has taken the cat. We were under the impression this was not possible, but because of what was said here, we talked to the breeder again, and found she would take the cat back. The cat is now back in the home it was born and raised in. However, the breeder said that unless the problem can be cured, she will have to make tough decisions regarding this cat's future. I can completely understand that, given the hell the cat put us through. To those who truly tried to help me a couple of months ago, thank you. You made the difference. I could have taken easier ways to deal with the problem, but did not. Fact is, we had to hang on to the cat for weeks since the breeder was out of town, so waited until she got back. To those who tried to assail me on my actions with the cat, understand the rantings achieve absolutely nothing and may only serve to anger the cat owner enough to do the very kinds of thing you abhor. I could have become angered enough to stop looking at this newsgroup, possibly missing some good suggestions, and taking other actions with the cat that no one would want. I continued to look at the newsgroup only because I recognized that most people were trying to help and was able to ignore the extremist responses, mostly because they were so silly and clearly the rantings of a lunatic fringe. Again, to those that offered reasonable suggestions, thank you. The cat is certainly in a better place thanks to you. - Phil You did the right thing. I congratulate you on being responsible and making sure the cat was taken care of by someone better equipped to handle the situation. I've been lurking on this group for some time and I am sorry that reasonable people like you have to bear the excoriation of irrational individuals who do not realize the responsibilities of pet ownership (while great) do not and should not extend to prioritizing the animal's care over the owner's happiness and well being. Shame on them for insisting on a situation that could have negative effects on other people's lives as well as the lives of the cats they supposedly care so much about. Cosmola |
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I can see why some might be mad. It seems a lot of humans have taken to
dumping a cat off in a shelter or having them re-homed because they care more about objects than they do the animal. "Cosmola" wrote in message ... On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 19:00:10 GMT, "Phil" , wrote: A couple of months ago, I asked for assistance in finding a home for a six year old female Tonkinese cat that would periodically urinate in large quantities on the carpet, pillows, mattresses, etc., even with a clean cat box nearby and a clean bill of health. The damage was becoming intolerable as was behavior that included one incident where the cat walked across the bed with my wife and I in it, and left a two foot long swath of urine across my legs. We very nearly lost a brand new $1500 mattress. The decision was made to find another home for the cat, and while some here sympathized with our plight, others could only direct their energy toward trying to assail me for not continuing to house the cat, not sinking limitless funds into finding out what was causing the problem, and one person who felt I ought to just tolerate and live with the damage. The former group was most helpful of course, and one of the recommendations those people gave me was to talk to the breeder. I did that, and the breeder has taken the cat. We were under the impression this was not possible, but because of what was said here, we talked to the breeder again, and found she would take the cat back. The cat is now back in the home it was born and raised in. However, the breeder said that unless the problem can be cured, she will have to make tough decisions regarding this cat's future. I can completely understand that, given the hell the cat put us through. To those who truly tried to help me a couple of months ago, thank you. You made the difference. I could have taken easier ways to deal with the problem, but did not. Fact is, we had to hang on to the cat for weeks since the breeder was out of town, so waited until she got back. To those who tried to assail me on my actions with the cat, understand the rantings achieve absolutely nothing and may only serve to anger the cat owner enough to do the very kinds of thing you abhor. I could have become angered enough to stop looking at this newsgroup, possibly missing some good suggestions, and taking other actions with the cat that no one would want. I continued to look at the newsgroup only because I recognized that most people were trying to help and was able to ignore the extremist responses, mostly because they were so silly and clearly the rantings of a lunatic fringe. Again, to those that offered reasonable suggestions, thank you. The cat is certainly in a better place thanks to you. - Phil You did the right thing. I congratulate you on being responsible and making sure the cat was taken care of by someone better equipped to handle the situation. I've been lurking on this group for some time and I am sorry that reasonable people like you have to bear the excoriation of irrational individuals who do not realize the responsibilities of pet ownership (while great) do not and should not extend to prioritizing the animal's care over the owner's happiness and well being. Shame on them for insisting on a situation that could have negative effects on other people's lives as well as the lives of the cats they supposedly care so much about. Cosmola |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:51:13 -0700, "Cat Protector"
, wrote: I can see why some might be mad. It seems a lot of humans have taken to dumping a cat off in a shelter or having them re-homed because they care more about objects than they do the animal. This doesn't seem to be the situation at all here. The cat has a real problem and the owners were not equipped to handle it. It was making everyone involved miserable. I don't see it any differently than what they say about children living with very unhappy parents. You are better to divorce and have someone move out thant try to stay together. Everyone including the children are better off. The cat is probably happier living with a happy family. Cosmola "Cosmola" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 19:00:10 GMT, "Phil" , wrote: A couple of months ago, I asked for assistance in finding a home for a six year old female Tonkinese cat that would periodically urinate in large quantities on the carpet, pillows, mattresses, etc., even with a clean cat box nearby and a clean bill of health. The damage was becoming intolerable as was behavior that included one incident where the cat walked across the bed with my wife and I in it, and left a two foot long swath of urine across my legs. We very nearly lost a brand new $1500 mattress. The decision was made to find another home for the cat, and while some here sympathized with our plight, others could only direct their energy toward trying to assail me for not continuing to house the cat, not sinking limitless funds into finding out what was causing the problem, and one person who felt I ought to just tolerate and live with the damage. The former group was most helpful of course, and one of the recommendations those people gave me was to talk to the breeder. I did that, and the breeder has taken the cat. We were under the impression this was not possible, but because of what was said here, we talked to the breeder again, and found she would take the cat back. The cat is now back in the home it was born and raised in. However, the breeder said that unless the problem can be cured, she will have to make tough decisions regarding this cat's future. I can completely understand that, given the hell the cat put us through. To those who truly tried to help me a couple of months ago, thank you. You made the difference. I could have taken easier ways to deal with the problem, but did not. Fact is, we had to hang on to the cat for weeks since the breeder was out of town, so waited until she got back. To those who tried to assail me on my actions with the cat, understand the rantings achieve absolutely nothing and may only serve to anger the cat owner enough to do the very kinds of thing you abhor. I could have become angered enough to stop looking at this newsgroup, possibly missing some good suggestions, and taking other actions with the cat that no one would want. I continued to look at the newsgroup only because I recognized that most people were trying to help and was able to ignore the extremist responses, mostly because they were so silly and clearly the rantings of a lunatic fringe. Again, to those that offered reasonable suggestions, thank you. The cat is certainly in a better place thanks to you. - Phil You did the right thing. I congratulate you on being responsible and making sure the cat was taken care of by someone better equipped to handle the situation. I've been lurking on this group for some time and I am sorry that reasonable people like you have to bear the excoriation of irrational individuals who do not realize the responsibilities of pet ownership (while great) do not and should not extend to prioritizing the animal's care over the owner's happiness and well being. Shame on them for insisting on a situation that could have negative effects on other people's lives as well as the lives of the cats they supposedly care so much about. Cosmola |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:51:13 -0700, "Cat Protector"
, wrote: I can see why some might be mad. It seems a lot of humans have taken to dumping a cat off in a shelter or having them re-homed because they care more about objects than they do the animal. This doesn't seem to be the situation at all here. The cat has a real problem and the owners were not equipped to handle it. It was making everyone involved miserable. I don't see it any differently than what they say about children living with very unhappy parents. You are better to divorce and have someone move out thant try to stay together. Everyone including the children are better off. The cat is probably happier living with a happy family. Cosmola "Cosmola" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 19:00:10 GMT, "Phil" , wrote: A couple of months ago, I asked for assistance in finding a home for a six year old female Tonkinese cat that would periodically urinate in large quantities on the carpet, pillows, mattresses, etc., even with a clean cat box nearby and a clean bill of health. The damage was becoming intolerable as was behavior that included one incident where the cat walked across the bed with my wife and I in it, and left a two foot long swath of urine across my legs. We very nearly lost a brand new $1500 mattress. The decision was made to find another home for the cat, and while some here sympathized with our plight, others could only direct their energy toward trying to assail me for not continuing to house the cat, not sinking limitless funds into finding out what was causing the problem, and one person who felt I ought to just tolerate and live with the damage. The former group was most helpful of course, and one of the recommendations those people gave me was to talk to the breeder. I did that, and the breeder has taken the cat. We were under the impression this was not possible, but because of what was said here, we talked to the breeder again, and found she would take the cat back. The cat is now back in the home it was born and raised in. However, the breeder said that unless the problem can be cured, she will have to make tough decisions regarding this cat's future. I can completely understand that, given the hell the cat put us through. To those who truly tried to help me a couple of months ago, thank you. You made the difference. I could have taken easier ways to deal with the problem, but did not. Fact is, we had to hang on to the cat for weeks since the breeder was out of town, so waited until she got back. To those who tried to assail me on my actions with the cat, understand the rantings achieve absolutely nothing and may only serve to anger the cat owner enough to do the very kinds of thing you abhor. I could have become angered enough to stop looking at this newsgroup, possibly missing some good suggestions, and taking other actions with the cat that no one would want. I continued to look at the newsgroup only because I recognized that most people were trying to help and was able to ignore the extremist responses, mostly because they were so silly and clearly the rantings of a lunatic fringe. Again, to those that offered reasonable suggestions, thank you. The cat is certainly in a better place thanks to you. - Phil You did the right thing. I congratulate you on being responsible and making sure the cat was taken care of by someone better equipped to handle the situation. I've been lurking on this group for some time and I am sorry that reasonable people like you have to bear the excoriation of irrational individuals who do not realize the responsibilities of pet ownership (while great) do not and should not extend to prioritizing the animal's care over the owner's happiness and well being. Shame on them for insisting on a situation that could have negative effects on other people's lives as well as the lives of the cats they supposedly care so much about. Cosmola |
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"Cosmola" wrote in message ... On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:51:13 -0700, "Cat Protector" , wrote: I can see why some might be mad. It seems a lot of humans have taken to dumping a cat off in a shelter or having them re-homed because they care more about objects than they do the animal. This doesn't seem to be the situation at all here. The cat has a real problem and the owners were not equipped to handle it. It was making everyone involved miserable. I don't see it any differently than what they say about children living with very unhappy parents. You are better to divorce and have someone move out thant try to stay together. Everyone including the children are better off. The cat is probably happier living with a happy family. Cosmola If I recall the story correctly the breeder knew the cat had a problem with urinating out of the box before adopting it out to the OP. I don't recall it ever being established why the cat was doing this but I remember some speculation that perhaps the cat had been bred to many times and had bladder problems. If so I'm not sure weather it's something that can be corrected or not. I also seem to recall that the OP had already tried the usual methods of dealing with a behavioral problem to no avail. I can't blame the OP for returning the cat to the breeder. I know I wouldn't want to live with a cat who was peeing all over the place with no solution in sight. IMO the breeder was unethical adopting out this cat with an existing problem of this nature. W |
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"Cosmola" wrote in message ... On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:51:13 -0700, "Cat Protector" , wrote: I can see why some might be mad. It seems a lot of humans have taken to dumping a cat off in a shelter or having them re-homed because they care more about objects than they do the animal. This doesn't seem to be the situation at all here. The cat has a real problem and the owners were not equipped to handle it. It was making everyone involved miserable. I don't see it any differently than what they say about children living with very unhappy parents. You are better to divorce and have someone move out thant try to stay together. Everyone including the children are better off. The cat is probably happier living with a happy family. Cosmola If I recall the story correctly the breeder knew the cat had a problem with urinating out of the box before adopting it out to the OP. I don't recall it ever being established why the cat was doing this but I remember some speculation that perhaps the cat had been bred to many times and had bladder problems. If so I'm not sure weather it's something that can be corrected or not. I also seem to recall that the OP had already tried the usual methods of dealing with a behavioral problem to no avail. I can't blame the OP for returning the cat to the breeder. I know I wouldn't want to live with a cat who was peeing all over the place with no solution in sight. IMO the breeder was unethical adopting out this cat with an existing problem of this nature. W |
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