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Innova (and Other Foods) and Struvite Crystals redux
My cat has recently gone through a bout with struvite crystals. During
her last vet visit, it was determined that the crystals had dissolved, but there was still some sign of infection. She was placed on a low dosage of antibiotics to make sure the bladder walls had healed with no bacteria trapped within. She is due for another check-up on the 31st, at which time she may be placed on Metacam or Tolfedine and Glucosamine to heal the walls. Now about her food... She was on s/d when she was first diagnosed, and after the crystals had dissolved, she was placed on c/d. She no longer has to be on one of the prescription diets, so I am looking for a suitable food for her. I asked the vet (via e-mail) about foods, and suggested continuing on c/d, or using s/o. I could also switch to one of the Purina products for bladder problems, or find another suitable food for keeping Kitty's urine acidified. My cat sitter (Kitty has been staying wth her while my mother is on an extended trip) is now using Innova, and has recommended it for Kitty. I wrote to Innova and they sent me the following information: -----begin paste---- Innova Adult canned--as fed values: Phosphorus .33% Potassium .24% Magnesium .03% Calcium .36% Sodium .26% Innova Cat Lite canned--as fed values: Phosphorus 0.36% Potassium 0.18% Magnesium 0.026% Calcium 0.59% Sodium 0.1% The pH level that our cat foods produce within the urine are 6.4 - 6.6. ----end paste---- The pH levels they say their foods produce is a slight bit higher than the 6.2 and 6.3 or 6.4 suggested for maintenance (that I read somewhere here). I also found the following values, which are recommended for cats prone to struvite crystals (posted by Jean B.): phosphorous 0.5-0.9, sodium 0.2-0.6*, magnesium 0.04-0.10. I think these are dry matter values, though. My questions: Is there a way to change DM to As-Fed values? I thought I had read it somewhere on rpch-b but I can't find it anymore. If the values posted by Jean B. are DMV, what would the ideal struvite-preventing as-fed values be for those nutrients? Do the values for Innova canned foods meet the requirements for a cat prone to struvite crystals? She has only had one bout of crystals, but I'd really like to prevent another bout. |
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Innova (and Other Foods) and Struvite Crystals redux
"Rona Y." wrote in message oups.com... at which time she may be placed on Metacam Rona, Metacam is a NSAID and used as a *one time only* , *subq only*, treatment in cats. Its a very risky and dangerous drug for cats. I strongly advise against using it in cats. Phil |
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Phil P. wrote: Rona, Metacam is a NSAID and used as a *one time only* , *subq only*, treatment in cats. Its a very risky and dangerous drug for cats. I strongly advise against using it in cats. Phil Thanks for that! I'll e-mail my cat sitter asap to let her know that if the vet suggests Metacam, to say no. Luckily her appointment isn't until Wednesday!! Thanks again for the warning! rona |
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Innova (and Other Foods) and Struvite Crystals redux
Rona Y. wrote: My cat has recently gone through a bout with struvite crystals. During her last vet visit, it was determined that the crystals had dissolved, but there was still some sign of infection. She was placed on a low dosage of antibiotics to make sure the bladder walls had healed with no bacteria trapped within. She is due for another check-up on the 31st, at which time she may be placed on Metacam or Tolfedine and Glucosamine to heal the walls. Now about her food... She was on s/d when she was first diagnosed, and after the crystals had dissolved, she was placed on c/d. She no longer has to be on one of the prescription diets, so I am looking for a suitable food for her. I asked the vet (via e-mail) about foods, and suggested continuing on c/d, or using s/o. I could also switch to one of the Purina products for bladder problems, or find another suitable food for keeping Kitty's urine acidified. My cat sitter (Kitty has been staying wth her while my mother is on an extended trip) is now using Innova, and has recommended it for Kitty. I wrote to Innova and they sent me the following information: -----begin paste---- Innova Adult canned--as fed values: Phosphorus .33% Potassium .24% Magnesium .03% Calcium .36% Sodium .26% Innova Cat Lite canned--as fed values: Phosphorus 0.36% Potassium 0.18% Magnesium 0.026% Calcium 0.59% Sodium 0.1% The pH level that our cat foods produce within the urine are 6.4 - 6.6. ----end paste---- The pH levels they say their foods produce is a slight bit higher than the 6.2 and 6.3 or 6.4 suggested for maintenance (that I read somewhere here). I also found the following values, which are recommended for cats prone to struvite crystals (posted by Jean B.): phosphorous 0.5-0.9, sodium 0.2-0.6*, magnesium 0.04-0.10. I think these are dry matter values, though. My questions: Is there a way to change DM to As-Fed values? I thought I had read it somewhere on rpch-b but I can't find it anymore. If the values posted by Jean B. are DMV, what would the ideal struvite-preventing as-fed values be for those nutrients? Do the values for Innova canned foods meet the requirements for a cat prone to struvite crystals? She has only had one bout of crystals, but I'd really like to prevent another bout. |
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Innova (and Other Foods) and Struvite Crystals redux
Hello Rona, I'm a former vet tech as well as a current animal
physiologist and zoologist. I have found an elegant solution to the struvite problem in cats all species and sizes of cats. Plus I have had a great deal of experience with this problem; and I have an 11 year old "former" tom cat who is predisposed to the problem who has been symptom free for 10 years since I put him on the regimen I shall give you. One: First I have made it a point to give him water in such a way that he cannot refuse generous amounts. This is done simply by giving him about one teaspoon of his favorite canned catfood. Mine likes Purina flavors. I take a fork and smash this as finely as I can in his bowl to which is added about 1.5 tablespoons of water. This is also a great time to sprinkle on top a dusting of your favorite dry vitamin concoction. Second: After your kitty eats this, then simply feed her Kirkland's Low Magnesium Premium Cat Food, available from Costco, an amount which she will consume in about 12 -13 minutes. This product is healthful and is inexpensive. Don't concern yourself if the kitty howls for more; tell her that,"There is aways tomorrow". She will soon devour her meal each and every day; she will not starve, she will become feline trim, as she should, and you shall have trteated,indeed , eliminated her malady therapeutically at no great cost. Do NOT worry about your kitty being hungry; carnivores can easily go as much as a week or ten days without food so long as they have free access to a water dish with clean fresh daily water, in addition to that which you put in the food. Let me know how it goes. I can be reached at (Take out the "nospam" from the email address before you use it). |
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Innova (and Other Foods) and Struvite Crystals redux
The missing syllable in the truncated "polym" is obvious; it should
read "polymath" |
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