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Bandit Becoming Senile?
I will never, *EVER* understand the way cats think - *IF* that's what you
can call it! Bandit is 17 years old and totally blind (she's been blind for a little over a year now - see below). She manages to make her way around the downstairs of my home quite well using the walls and familiar "landmarks" to figure out where she is and where she's going. I have a ramp for her to make her way on and off my bed (the place she spends most of her time): http://www.possibleplaces.com/CatNip...4/100_0307.jpg But even if she is comfortable roaming around in the dark I can't see why she would do something like this! In my garage there is a 4.5 foot tall workbench that runs the entire wall that abuts the house: http://www.possibleplaces.com/CatNip...e/DCP_1667.jpg. Since this picture was taken (but, after thinking about this I recalled, before Bandit became blind) we moved the coffee table that we're refinishing (lower left-hand corner in this picture) right next to the workbench. The other day, Bandit went into the garage (I'm presuming to use her litter box) but decided to jump up onto the coffee table. From the coffee table she jumped up to a box that was butted up to the coffee table and the workbench. From there she jumped up to a higher box, and from there jumped up to the workbench. Well, getting up there was a breeze, she just put her paws on the next higher surface and jumped up. However, she didn't consider how she was going to get down again! She tried reaching out to feel for the last surface she jumped from but couldn't stretch far enough down to reach even if she hadn't moved from the spot where she first jumped from the top-most box.. She was afraid to just jump down blindly, and was well and truly in a pickle! I was upstairs when I heard a terrible yowling - it sounded like a banshee in torment! I rushed downstairs to see who was being tortured and killed and found Miss Bandit standing in the middle of the workbench waiting for me to rescue her. All that would have been fine except the little bit*h had the nerve to bite me when I picked her up to put her back safely on the floor!!! OK, I suppose in her mind it was all my fault for having moved the coffee table. However, I have not moved the stool in my bathroom since we moved into this house three years ago, yet while I was in the shower yesterday Bandit came into the bathroom and jumped up to my stool then onto my sink, and found herself in the exact same predicament! [At least this time I was prepared for her "gratitude" and kept my fingers, hands and arms out of reach of her teeth!] I'm worried that she may be growing senile or that her brain is malfunctioning (see below re cause of her blindness), I can't figure why else she would start doing such stupid things! I'm afraid she might do something like this when I'm not home and either be stuck or try jumping down and hurt herself. I hesitate to keep her confined to one room where she can't jump up on anything, I'd rather see her keep as active as possible for as long as possible. I've already talked to her vet and she didn't have any advice except to suggest keeping her confined. Her last check-up was just a few weeks ago - she is in great health for a cat her age (BUN and creatinin levels are fine, blood pressure is great, she's eating heartily and drinking enough water). The vet said that the blindness is probably caused by a tumor growing on the front, underside of her brain (her retinas are not detached and all the blood vessels in her eyes look healthy). I didn't take her for further testing to confirm or refute the brain tumor theory since, if it's there, there is nothing that can be done for her and at her age I didn't want to put her through the stress of more poking and prodding for no good reason. Anyway, does anyone have any other suggestions about how I can keep her safe? Hugs, CatNipped |
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On 26 Feb, 15:49, "CatNipped" wrote:
I will never, *EVER* understand the way cats think - *IF* that's what you can call it! Bandit is 17 years old and totally blind (she's been blind for a little over a year now - see below). She manages to make her way around the downstairs of my home quite well using the walls and familiar "landmarks" to figure out where she is and where she's going. I have a ramp for her to make her way on and off my bed (the place she spends most of her time): http://www.possibleplaces.com/CatNip...4/100_0307.jpg But even if she is comfortable roaming around in the dark I can't see why she would do something like this! In my garage there is a 4.5 foot tall workbench that runs the entire wall that abuts the house: http://www.possibleplaces.com/CatNip...e/DCP_1667.jpg. Since this picture was taken (but, after thinking about this I recalled, before Bandit became blind) we moved the coffee table that we're refinishing (lower left-hand corner in this picture) right next to the workbench. The other day, Bandit went into the garage (I'm presuming to use her litter box) but decided to jump up onto the coffee table. From the coffee table she jumped up to a box that was butted up to the coffee table and the workbench. From there she jumped up to a higher box, and from there jumped up to the workbench. Well, getting up there was a breeze, she just put her paws on the next higher surface and jumped up. However, she didn't consider how she was going to get down again! She tried reaching out to feel for the last surface she jumped from but couldn't stretch far enough down to reach even if she hadn't moved from the spot where she first jumped from the top-most box.. She was afraid to just jump down blindly, and was well and truly in a pickle! I was upstairs when I heard a terrible yowling - it sounded like a banshee in torment! I rushed downstairs to see who was being tortured and killed and found Miss Bandit standing in the middle of the workbench waiting for me to rescue her. All that would have been fine except the little bit*h had the nerve to bite me when I picked her up to put her back safely on the floor!!! OK, I suppose in her mind it was all my fault for having moved the coffee table. However, I have not moved the stool in my bathroom since we moved into this house three years ago, yet while I was in the shower yesterday Bandit came into the bathroom and jumped up to my stool then onto my sink, and found herself in the exact same predicament! [At least this time I was prepared for her "gratitude" and kept my fingers, hands and arms out of reach of her teeth!] I'm worried that she may be growing senile or that her brain is malfunctioning (see below re cause of her blindness), I can't figure why else she would start doing such stupid things! I'm afraid she might do something like this when I'm not home and either be stuck or try jumping down and hurt herself. I hesitate to keep her confined to one room where she can't jump up on anything, I'd rather see her keep as active as possible for as long as possible. I've already talked to her vet and she didn't have any advice except to suggest keeping her confined. Her last check-up was just a few weeks ago - she is in great health for a cat her age (BUN and creatinin levels are fine, blood pressure is great, she's eating heartily and drinking enough water). The vet said that the blindness is probably caused by a tumor growing on the front, underside of her brain (her retinas are not detached and all the blood vessels in her eyes look healthy). I didn't take her for further testing to confirm or refute the brain tumor theory since, if it's there, there is nothing that can be done for her and at her age I didn't want to put her through the stress of more poking and prodding for no good reason. Anyway, does anyone have any other suggestions about how I can keep her safe? Hugs, CatNipped i have not advcie unfortunately but I think it is true that cats can go senile intheir old age, and there has been reserach recently into cats developing a form of alzheimers later in life too which does cause memory loss. certainly in the human form of alzheimers there is impairment of spatial working memory and other memory (visual but that won't affect bandit obviously) needed to remember where things liek tabels and boxes etc are and since she can't look for these things she probably depends more than most cats on her spatial working memory to recall a sort fo 'mental map' of the area she lives in. I remember in the last 6 months of jaspers life, if I was upstairs and he was downstairs (me having just a few minutes previously gone upstairs ansd him watching me do it usually) i would hear a pitiful cry and yowl of an abandoned cat who had been left all alone in a house, cruelly abandoned by his heartless owners, with no food or water, cold and alone and unloved.....Then i would lean over the bannister, call for jasper and he would run up the stairs as fast as he could with little chirrups of joy as if to shout "there you are!!! I thought you had abandoned me forever!!!". A long session of fuss and reassurance and cuddles and purrs would then follow as jasper settled down to a snooze on my bed after his awful scary experience of apparantly being left all alone in the world. it was obvious that he had forgotten seeing me go upstairs and because he could not see me at all he probably thought he had been abandoned as before (his previous mum had died and he gad been left alone in her house for 6 months by himself, fed every day by her son who visited), he probably even forgot there was an 'upstairs' where i could have gone until I called his name. At first it was kind of funny but I hate to think how stressed he must have been during these episodes and how confused and frightened too. He had to be PTS as the bladder tumour he had got too big to be operated on, and he was too old to survive the op anyway, as far as we knew he did not have a brain tumour but he was not scanned for one and it is possible he could have had one linked to the bladder one. sorry i do not know what to suggest exceopt to say that what you describe is not uncommon in older cats, if I find a link to the news article about alzheimers in cats i will post it best of luck, bookie |
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Bandit Becoming Senile?
i have not advcie unfortunately but I think it is true that cats can go senile intheir old age, and there has been reserach recently into cats developing a form of alzheimers later in life too which does cause memory loss. certainly in the human form of alzheimers there is impairment of spatial working memory and other memory (visual but that won't affect bandit obviously) needed to remember where things liek tabels and boxes etc are and since she can't look for these things she probably depends more than most cats on her spatial working memory to recall a sort fo 'mental map' of the area she lives in. Yes, there is a form of "alzheimer's" for cats. It's called Feline Cognitive Disorder. My parents late cat. Berries, had this for about the last two years of her life (she lived to 19). She would forget to use her litterbox (despite it not being moved/changed), meow in corners for no reason, etc. It was quite distressing to see. Their vet put her on an antidepressant, which helped greatly, especially with the litterbox problems. I've done research on this disorder, but there's very little to be found. I did read that a side effect of FCD is also deafness, which Berries did have. Hugs to you. I'm sure this isn't easy. If it were me, I'd close off some rooms to the house I was leaving for a while, (rooms with high boxes or other stuff she could get into) to prevent any possible accidents. Rene |
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"Rene S." wrote in message
ups.com... i have not advcie unfortunately but I think it is true that cats can go senile intheir old age, and there has been reserach recently into cats developing a form of alzheimers later in life too which does cause memory loss. certainly in the human form of alzheimers there is impairment of spatial working memory and other memory (visual but that won't affect bandit obviously) needed to remember where things liek tabels and boxes etc are and since she can't look for these things she probably depends more than most cats on her spatial working memory to recall a sort fo 'mental map' of the area she lives in. Yes, there is a form of "alzheimer's" for cats. It's called Feline Cognitive Disorder. My parents late cat. Berries, had this for about the last two years of her life (she lived to 19). She would forget to use her litterbox (despite it not being moved/changed), meow in corners for no reason, etc. It was quite distressing to see. Their vet put her on an antidepressant, which helped greatly, especially with the litterbox problems. I've done research on this disorder, but there's very little to be found. I did read that a side effect of FCD is also deafness, which Berries did have. Hugs to you. I'm sure this isn't easy. If it were me, I'd close off some rooms to the house I was leaving for a while, (rooms with high boxes or other stuff she could get into) to prevent any possible accidents. Rene Yep, that's what I'm going to do, thanks. And thanks for the info! Hugs, CatNipped |
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CatNipped wrote: I will never, *EVER* understand the way cats think - *IF* that's what you can call it! I would suspect that she will start having neurological signs before she shows signs of senility, if it is a tumor. Pressure from the tumor will affect her brain and/or nerves and body functions will start being disrupted. Senility is more a symptom of an overall deterioration of the brain. I'd keep her in familiar territory and just keep an eye on her as much as you can. Ya gotta love the old ones - I have such a soft spot in my heart for them! -L. |
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"Cheryl" wrote in message
... On Mon 26 Feb 2007 10:49:16a, CatNipped wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav : Anyway, does anyone have any other suggestions about how I can keep her safe? Aw, bless her heart. Sounds more like she's getting just more acclimated to her lack of sight and trying to be more like a normal cat. I agree with one suggestion to close off areas where she can get in trouble when you're not home, or seclude her during those hours. Heck, cats sleep so much that she'll likely not miss being able to explore during the times you're not home. -- Cheryl I've gone through the downstairs again with an eye to things she might climb on that would be dangerous for her to fall off of. I've moved any "stepping stones" away from high places and am closing off the bathroom when I'm not home. Hopefully that will keep her safe but still let her roam as much as she wants (I really want to keep her as active and interested in life as possible - I think even in cats that makes a difference not only in quantity of life, but quality of life as well). Hugs, CatNipped |
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"-L." wrote in message
oups.com... CatNipped wrote: I will never, *EVER* understand the way cats think - *IF* that's what you can call it! I would suspect that she will start having neurological signs before she shows signs of senility, if it is a tumor. Pressure from the tumor will affect her brain and/or nerves and body functions will start being disrupted. Senility is more a symptom of an overall deterioration of the brain. Yep, I think she's probably still way too canny yet to be labeled senile - and Ben tells me she only pulls these adventures when *I'm* home, so it's very possible that it's only an attention-getting ploy (in which case it will still work - at 17yo and blind she can have all the attention she wants from me!). And if it is a tumor, it's not exhibiting any other physical symptoms besides the blindness. She's still as feisty as ever - when Sammy, the dufus, tries to give her nose kisses she starts yowling and swatting at the air in front of her (Sammy having wisely moved away after the quick kiss), then sits back with as huff as if to say, "Yep, I showed that young whipper-snapper a thing or two!" ;. I'd keep her in familiar territory and just keep an eye on her as much as you can. Ya gotta love the old ones - I have such a soft spot in my heart for them! -L. You're right, I've moved away all "stepping stones" from places that could be dangerous for her to fall from and I'm closing off my bathroom now when I'm not at home. Cats are so amazing in the way they deal with adversity. Even at her age she has taken her blindness in stride and continues on as if nothing were the matter. She will walk across the floor, briskly, until she bumps into something face-first, and then turns and continues on as if nothing happened. How many humans would venture forth into the dark without hesitation??!!! Hugs, CatNipped |
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