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Carbon Monoxide other euthanesia
I have a cat that is fearful of strangers.
He has cancer and will need to be put to sleep soon. I read that some vets place an IV for this. I think this would prolong the process and be stressful to both the cat and me. Will a simple injection be tramatic to the cat? He is not real weak yet, but the cancer is inoperable and his quality of life is poor. I will probably call a mobile vet to come to my place and do it, but what can I do to minmize the stress to this loveable little creature? Has anyone been in this situation that can give me some tips on how to make this easy for the cat? Can carbon monoxide be used as a gentle euthanesia? |
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stevej111 writes:
I have a cat that is fearful of strangers. He has cancer and will need to be put to sleep soon. I read that some vets place an IV for this. I think this would prolong the process and be stressful to both the cat and me. Will a simple injection be tramatic to the cat? He is not real weak yet, but the cancer is inoperable and his quality of life is poor. One of our cats had to be put down that way. We were not in the room when the IV was put in but were there when the injection was given. The cat was calm through the part we saw. She never seemed to know what happened. No change of expression or anything. |
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I will probably call a mobile vet to come to my place
and do it, but what can I do to minmize the stress to this loveable little creature? Has anyone been in this situation that can give me some tips on how to make this easy for the cat? Can carbon monoxide be used as a gentle euthanasia I've never heard of Carbon Monoxide being used this way, so I googled it, and found this: http://www.freewebs.com/ncche/medicaleffectsofco.htm "The same report states that animals exposed to CO during euthanasia suffer convulsions and muscular spasms" also " Most major humane organizations advocate a move toward more humane euthanasia for sheltered animals, citing the dangers and health effects of carbon monoxide... It is unacceptable to use CO for animals who are old, sick injured, pregnant, or under four months of age. " Really doesn't sound like a good way to go. With regards to euthanasia via injection, I've been on hand for many euthanasias, both canine and feline (I'm a first year vet student, and I've worked in a vet clinic for the past 3 years). I can tell you that they seem to be almost uniformly without incident, and the animals pass on with a minimal amount of distress. Most of them don't mind the needle, which is really all they feel. On occasion, if difficulties are expected, we will sedate the animal prior to administering the injection to make sure everything goes smoothly. Generally with cats, this is with the use of a gas anesthetic (isofluorine), you might want to inquire about this possibility if you're concerned about the needle (particularly if they have had difficulty drawing blood from your cat in the recent past), that way if anything goes awry, your cat won't be aware of it. Dale |
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Carbon Monoxide other euthanesia
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 04:41:25 GMT, Dale Atkin wrote:
I will probably call a mobile vet to come to my place and do it, but what can I do to minmize the stress to this loveable little creature? Has anyone been in this situation that can give me some tips on how to make this easy for the cat? Can carbon monoxide be used as a gentle euthanasia I've never heard of Carbon Monoxide being used this way, so I googled it, and found this: http://www.freewebs.com/ncche/medicaleffectsofco.htm I've heard of using CO2. Kitty in cooler with dry ice. I would never do it. An injection of something to stop the heart seems like the way to go. |
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Carbon Monoxide other euthanesia
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 11:30:06 -0500, AZ Nomad
wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 04:41:25 GMT, Dale Atkin wrote: I will probably call a mobile vet to come to my place and do it, but what can I do to minmize the stress to this loveable little creature? Has anyone been in this situation that can give me some tips on how to make this easy for the cat? Can carbon monoxide be used as a gentle euthanasia I've never heard of Carbon Monoxide being used this way, so I googled it, and found this: http://www.freewebs.com/ncche/medicaleffectsofco.htm I've heard of using CO2. Kitty in cooler with dry ice. I would never do it. An injection of something to stop the heart seems like the way to go. Using CO2 is a very, VERY bad way to 'euthanize' any animal. Your body, and your cat's body, recognizes an excess of CO2: it burns your throat and lungs when you breathe it, and unlike carbon monoxide, the cat would KNOW it was dying, in a most horrible way: by suffocating. It would be very painful, and very cruel. It it would not happen nearly as quickly as you might think. Euthanizing a cat is best done by a vet; using methods and drugs they are, unfortunately, good at. The cat really does 'go to sleep', from an overdose of one or more sedatives; one is always a barbiturate. Some vets will come to your home, so cats that are scared of going to the vet don't have to go through that, when they are old, sick and/or in pain. If your vet doesn't do this, start calling vet clinics and find one who does. There is no 'easy' way to euthanize a beloved pet. But don't do it yourself, using some method that is far slower, and more painful, than the method used by a vet. Really. Think about it. |
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Using CO2 is a very, VERY bad way to 'euthanize' any animal.
It's not euthanasia ("painless death"). CO2 is murder. |
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The intravenous method involves a few steps. One of the first is
tranquilization of the cat. Then they use another IV to basically do a potassium overload that shuts down the heart. There are different protocols with different areas and different vets. What I've seen (mostly) is an IV barbiturate (brand name euthanyl) overdose that seems to be fairly common around here. I've heard (indirectly) about some vets using a potassium overdose, but never seen it. Dale |
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Carbon Monoxide other euthanesia
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:29:02 GMT, Gandalf wrote:
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 11:30:06 -0500, AZ Nomad wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 04:41:25 GMT, Dale Atkin wrote: I will probably call a mobile vet to come to my place and do it, but what can I do to minmize the stress to this loveable little creature? Has anyone been in this situation that can give me some tips on how to make this easy for the cat? Can carbon monoxide be used as a gentle euthanasia I've never heard of Carbon Monoxide being used this way, so I googled it, and found this: http://www.freewebs.com/ncche/medicaleffectsofco.htm I've heard of using CO2. Kitty in cooler with dry ice. I would never do it. An injection of something to stop the heart seems like the way to go. Using CO2 is a very, VERY bad way to 'euthanize' any animal. Your body, and your cat's body, recognizes an excess of CO2: it burns your throat and lungs when you breathe it, and unlike carbon monoxide, the cat would KNOW it was dying, in a most horrible way: by suffocating. It would be very painful, and very cruel. It it would not happen nearly as quickly as you might think. Euthanizing a cat is best done by a vet; using methods and drugs they are, unfortunately, good at. The cat really does 'go to sleep', from an overdose of one or more sedatives; one is always a barbiturate. Some vets will come to your home, so cats that are scared of going to the vet don't have to go through that, when they are old, sick and/or in pain. If your vet doesn't do this, start calling vet clinics and find one who does. There is no 'easy' way to euthanize a beloved pet. But don't do it yourself, using some method that is far slower, and more painful, than the method used by a vet. Really. Think about it. No argument here. Considering that over the life of a pet one is going to spend at least ten thousand times as much just for food, it makes zero sense to perform home euthenization. |
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Carbon Monoxide other euthanesia
Euthanizing a cat is best done by a vet; using methods and drugs they
are, unfortunately, good at. Just for clarification... I don't think anyone in this thread was contemplating doing it themselves. The cat really does 'go to sleep', from an overdose of one or more sedatives; one is always a barbiturate. I'm not so sure about one 'always' being a barbiturate, although that does seem to be the most common around here. As per another post, I've heard of potassium being used to euthanize animals, but I'm unfamiliar with the details, other than it stops the heart, presumably by mucking with the potential for the formation of action potentials, but I'm just guessing.... I don't imagine this alone would be a good idea, as it would seem to be similar to having a heart attack and dying, hence the sedative first. Some vets will come to your home, so cats that are scared of going to the vet don't have to go through that, when they are old, sick and/or in pain. If your vet doesn't do this, start calling vet clinics and find one who does. Just a comment about this. Make sure that whatever vet you call to do the job is in fact set up to do 'in home' euthanasia. Ask how/if they sedate the cat prior to the final injection etc. I know we don't generally like to euthanize cats in home, as we like to have the anesthetic machine on hand in case of difficulties (and our anesthetic machine isn't overly portable). In ideal situations, one could simple give a a single injection, and they'd go peacefully, so any vet *could* do it at home, but they aren't necessarily set up for the 'what if' scenarios (also understand if your vet doesn't do euthanasia at home, there may be a good reason why they don't) Dale |
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